terminology/dreaming_attention-dark_energy

Dreaming Attention vs. Dark Energy

u/slav_owl - June 6, 2025 @4:31 PM - Are dreaming energy and dark energy the same thing? Also, are dreaming energy and dreaming attention the same? I guess I am confused re: terminology.

u/danl999 - June 7, 2025 @6:41 AM - No, all different. But as to "what they are", we can't really ever know that. The best we can know is what they do, in our own case.

Dreaming energy lets you view dream scenes in the air with your eyes open. It lets you see the puffs too. However, just because you can't do either of those, doesn't mean you don't have any. If you don't see those, it's because your internal dialogue hasn't been off long enough to let your assemblage point shift. It has to move down the back at least 6 inches to see puffs (might at 4, if you have a LOT of dreaming energy).

Dark energy comes from the inorganic beings, and from witches who stored some of it in their womb. It's could be the residual awareness of inorganic beings, but we don't know for sure. As far as we know, they might have picked it up on another world. Or again, it could be theirs.

Dark energy brings new positions of the assemblage point you hadn't gotten to before. So it's not "dreaming energy", but it does alter what your dreaming energy is seeing.

Dreaming attention is your ability to focus your attention on elements of the second attention while in waking dreaming, while gazing or during darkroom practice etc., or on dreams while doing sleeping 4 Gates Dreaming. Dreams and second attention perceptions have no practical value in society, so our normal attention has been trained to ignore them. And when there're dreams floating in the darkness, those tend to start out vague and abstract because they aren't "tuned in".

But to get them to tune in, you need to focus your dreaming attention on them, and nothing else. Takes only 30 seconds when you get good at it. But if you still have an internal dialogue, that's impossible. The internal dialogue is focusing your awareness in other directions, so that you can't focus it on the magic in front of you.

Once you can focus your dreaming attention, and you have a day's worth of dreaming energy because you haven't practiced since yesterday, you can, for example, summon "DarkFlix". Videos in the air. But if you watch longer than 10 minutes, continuously, you'll burn off your dreaming energy. Even if you manage to keep focusing your dreaming attention. It just won't find anything to look at.

While you're gazing at those videos in the air, dark energy presents different "channels" than you usually get.

Women use dark energy to influence men, who can't store it. Even a (non-practitioner) is affected by interacting with a woman in a situation where they use that to influence them.

I count on that with Cholita.