Reposted because when searching for this term no directly titled post comes up.
But now it will.
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u/Financial-Ad6596
1 points2023-02-07 09:34
And I was reading these techniques again from yesterday.. walking, crossing eyes, breathing etc thank you!
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
3 points2023-02-07 09:47
That linked post is one of the earliest uploads u/danl999 made to Reddit.
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u/danl999
5 points2023-02-07 14:48
It's possible to "design your own path" as long as it's all about getting silent.
No one MUST do darkroom.
Juann didn't as his primary practice, and he's near to master of both darkroom, and daylight gazing.
The main mistake Castaneda fans make is ignoring that they need to learn to shut off the internal dialogue.
When in fact, EVERYTHING ELSE can be ignored, EXCEPT that.
So you could make a rule, you only drive your car absolutely silent.
And look for signs of the assemblage point moving. '
The sky turning purple, the bushes pink, weird swirling.
Not as big of a risk to swerving off the road as you'd think, but you do have to be careful. Especially while you are getting used to it.
And find any other places in your daily routine, to make into "thought free zones" as long as you also look for results while doing that.
MAGIC. Look for magic.
That creates a "container" for intent to store into.
And if you are silent, it will!
You'll get a feedback loop between however you are forcing silence (such as when driving), and any magic you notice.
So that you'll learn how to see more of that type of magic, and your method to force silence will be modified.
It sort of "mutates", until you may find yourself actually singing to the sky and the bushes, when they're doing what you want. Because assuming you want even more than comes without the singing, you'll discovered that little trick by accident. Due to driving so often.
That's "part" of how intent stores into that particular container.
The sound will vibrate the magic around you as you are driving, to be "more real",
Just because you are treating it as real by singing to it.
Chanting perhaps might be easier to do while silent. A joyous round of "Disco Inferno", might not be as effective as a simply native american sounding chant.
Always in silence though!
Singing doesn't require an internal dialogue per se.
Which is also good practice. Learning that's so.
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u/danl999
12 points2023-02-07 16:38
In order of the fastest way to become a real seer (sorcerer):
1 Be given to an old seer living 8000 years ago. As a child of 3 years old. Fastest path to sorcery by far! Same path used by the Jedi in Star Wars. And for good reason. That's about our form of sorcery. They just gave it a more interesting sci-fi wrapper.
2 Gazing. But for some odd reason, no one will ever keep this up! I gave up on recommending it to anyone, because they just do it until they have a fun story to tell about what they saw, probably just to get some attention. Then they lie and say they've continued practicing so they can get what they really want. To "chat" about magic. Not to actually learn any. In the case of women, they might keep it up but they get lonely for companionship on the path, and realize it's just going to be them staring at goats. Women don't like staring at goats, all alone. But men who stare at goats are perfectly happy. Thinking of all the money the CIA can be cheated out of. Big Robert Monroe fans, men tend to be.
Chair silence. Fastest path. Even faster than darkroom gazing. Except, it DOES NOT bring your double into the real world. Instead, you go into its realms.
I suppose "the right way of walking" would be #2.5 in that list, if the truth were told.
BUT, you cannot possibly get anyone who does "the right way of walking" to remember that you MUST look for magic while walking, to PROVE you are really forcing yourself silent.
Instead you get, "Yea, I've been doing that for years! I can certainly get silent now."
Except, the world doesn't "stop".
If you actually get silent, you would have an astonishing tale to tell of it, assuming you could even remember what happened.
Which is why the right way of walking is so good! When the world stops, and you end up somewhere else, you're still standing up in the real world. So you c n't "zone out and forget".
You'll fall over!
But if you're like an honest to goodness japanese "Zen Master", and only claim you can get silent because you like sitting on that throne to lord it over others, you're closer to someone from our community who claims to have "tried" the right way of walking as a path.
You're a fraud.
Doesn't need to be so. Ralph was using that when he was in private classes, and walked into an alternate copy of reality. Through a crack he found in Santa Monica, on one of the sidewalk paths.
Carlos verified it was possible and that sounded genuine.
But for whatever odd reason, no one takes it seriously that you MUST look for magic while doing the right way of walking.
Because humans are needy, relentless liars who will do or say anything to get more attention. And to get out of doing anything difficult.
Gazing emphasizes visual results from the start, so they can't lie to themselves about that.
Chair silence is slightly more successful at getting people to realize, you MUST see magic or you aren't doing it well. And it only works if you find a "thread" of real magic, and start pulling on it to find the source.
I sure would like to see a real seer who learned by the right way of walking, do a writeup on that path.
What things you see, as you grow in silence.
Carlos could NOT have done that.
He got "zapped" by don Juan using the Nagual's blow. So whatever happened during his "right way of walking", was really just flexibility in his assemblage point, due to don Juan manipulating it when he couldn't remember.
So he had no idea what you ought to see along the way, in our situation.
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u/GoatFiend99
1 points2023-02-08 00:21
I needed this. Smoked me, purposeful or not. Thank you. Timing so perfect it makes my hairs stand on end.
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u/Iv-_-Iv
1 points2024-11-04 13:59
Hello. I have a question about the chair silence. If i use chair silence to move my AP, then keep sitting on the chair with my eyes closed and start recapping, will the AP position i get from chair silence help me see some magic faster during recap?
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u/danl999
3 points2024-11-04 16:57
Certainly!
It's a little like my practice these days. I can move to my assemblage point to Silent Knowledge now, in around 5 minutes. Using my palm.
Of course, I get greedy and do it for a half hour, threatening to use too much of my practice time.
Tensegrity done in Silent Knowledge is beyond words. It's a series of tunnels, and portals, and alternate timelines, all triggered by the movements.
Carlos of course could just see this, so it wasn't like he had to be godlike to figure out how to make the movements work well with this.
He could just look...
But he also knew it works at the level of puffs too.
Pre-energy body darkroom.
In your case, if you can move your assemblage point down the J curve first, then recap will be more effective.
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u/DartPasttheEagle
1 points2024-11-15 13:06
Thank you for this. Please explain the last line you mentioned here about finding a
thread and pulling it to find the source:
Chair silence is slightly more successful at getting people to realize, you MUST see magic or you aren't doing it well. And it only works if you find a "thread" of real magic, and start pulling on it to find the source.
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1 points2024-11-15 13:06
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It's kind of how it feels when you first find real magic, while working hard looking for it.
It's just a TINY little thing.
You even doubt it's significant, even though you can't really explain it away.
It's just not enough, to run out and start your own "magic man" franchise. So the tendency is to think you're just causing that yourself. Or that it's invalid, or just a fluke.
It's one reason that the concept of "Attainment" which is what Zen people are proud of, is the most horrible thing you can be thinking!
Imagine that you believe you are working towards "attainment".
Which I surmise, the Japanese Zen people believe makes you superior to the sloppy Buddhists outside Japan.
Who have no "real" attainment.
Talk about screwing over someone's mind! Japanese Zen masters are merely people with stockholm syndrome from that ugly hazing system which forces you to believe you have "attained" something magnificent.
When in fact, you have nothing but ordinary closed eye meditative effects.
Sorcery is different.
You need to see something IMPOSSIBLE. And with your eyes wide open for best results.
So Carlos gave the metaphor of scratching the dirt and finding a thread.
A tiny little thread, under the dust of some sunbaked dried mud.
But you can see that it's longer than what's visible, so you gently pull on it, until it starts to come up.
You keep following it, only to find that it's tied to a "string". Something larger.
You keep pulling that up, and find it's attached to a "rope".
That's what it takes to learn magic on your own.
You have to find some, even a tiny bit, and keep pulling it up so that it grows.
You don't wait around to "earn" your "attainment", when in fact, nothing at all is happening.
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u/DartPasttheEagle
1 points2024-11-15 17:44
Ah, so beautifully and clearly explained. Thank you so much!
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Reposted because when searching for this term no directly titled post comes up.
But now it will.
And I was reading these techniques again from yesterday.. walking, crossing eyes, breathing etc thank you!
That linked post is one of the earliest uploads u/danl999 made to Reddit.
It's possible to "design your own path" as long as it's all about getting silent.
No one MUST do darkroom.
Juann didn't as his primary practice, and he's near to master of both darkroom, and daylight gazing.
The main mistake Castaneda fans make is ignoring that they need to learn to shut off the internal dialogue.
When in fact, EVERYTHING ELSE can be ignored, EXCEPT that.
So you could make a rule, you only drive your car absolutely silent.
And look for signs of the assemblage point moving. '
The sky turning purple, the bushes pink, weird swirling.
Not as big of a risk to swerving off the road as you'd think, but you do have to be careful. Especially while you are getting used to it.
And find any other places in your daily routine, to make into "thought free zones" as long as you also look for results while doing that.
MAGIC. Look for magic.
That creates a "container" for intent to store into.
And if you are silent, it will!
You'll get a feedback loop between however you are forcing silence (such as when driving), and any magic you notice.
So that you'll learn how to see more of that type of magic, and your method to force silence will be modified.
It sort of "mutates", until you may find yourself actually singing to the sky and the bushes, when they're doing what you want. Because assuming you want even more than comes without the singing, you'll discovered that little trick by accident. Due to driving so often.
That's "part" of how intent stores into that particular container.
The sound will vibrate the magic around you as you are driving, to be "more real",
Just because you are treating it as real by singing to it.
Chanting perhaps might be easier to do while silent. A joyous round of "Disco Inferno", might not be as effective as a simply native american sounding chant.
Always in silence though!
Singing doesn't require an internal dialogue per se.
Which is also good practice. Learning that's so.
In order of the fastest way to become a real seer (sorcerer):
1 Be given to an old seer living 8000 years ago. As a child of 3 years old. Fastest path to sorcery by far! Same path used by the Jedi in Star Wars. And for good reason. That's about our form of sorcery. They just gave it a more interesting sci-fi wrapper.
2 Gazing. But for some odd reason, no one will ever keep this up! I gave up on recommending it to anyone, because they just do it until they have a fun story to tell about what they saw, probably just to get some attention. Then they lie and say they've continued practicing so they can get what they really want. To "chat" about magic. Not to actually learn any. In the case of women, they might keep it up but they get lonely for companionship on the path, and realize it's just going to be them staring at goats. Women don't like staring at goats, all alone. But men who stare at goats are perfectly happy. Thinking of all the money the CIA can be cheated out of. Big Robert Monroe fans, men tend to be.
I suppose "the right way of walking" would be #2.5 in that list, if the truth were told.
BUT, you cannot possibly get anyone who does "the right way of walking" to remember that you MUST look for magic while walking, to PROVE you are really forcing yourself silent.
Instead you get, "Yea, I've been doing that for years! I can certainly get silent now."
Except, the world doesn't "stop".
If you actually get silent, you would have an astonishing tale to tell of it, assuming you could even remember what happened.
Which is why the right way of walking is so good! When the world stops, and you end up somewhere else, you're still standing up in the real world. So you c n't "zone out and forget".
You'll fall over!
But if you're like an honest to goodness japanese "Zen Master", and only claim you can get silent because you like sitting on that throne to lord it over others, you're closer to someone from our community who claims to have "tried" the right way of walking as a path.
You're a fraud.
Doesn't need to be so. Ralph was using that when he was in private classes, and walked into an alternate copy of reality. Through a crack he found in Santa Monica, on one of the sidewalk paths.
Carlos verified it was possible and that sounded genuine.
But for whatever odd reason, no one takes it seriously that you MUST look for magic while doing the right way of walking.
Because humans are needy, relentless liars who will do or say anything to get more attention. And to get out of doing anything difficult.
Gazing emphasizes visual results from the start, so they can't lie to themselves about that.
Chair silence is slightly more successful at getting people to realize, you MUST see magic or you aren't doing it well. And it only works if you find a "thread" of real magic, and start pulling on it to find the source.
I sure would like to see a real seer who learned by the right way of walking, do a writeup on that path.
What things you see, as you grow in silence.
Carlos could NOT have done that.
He got "zapped" by don Juan using the Nagual's blow. So whatever happened during his "right way of walking", was really just flexibility in his assemblage point, due to don Juan manipulating it when he couldn't remember.
So he had no idea what you ought to see along the way, in our situation.
I needed this. Smoked me, purposeful or not. Thank you. Timing so perfect it makes my hairs stand on end.
Hello. I have a question about the chair silence. If i use chair silence to move my AP, then keep sitting on the chair with my eyes closed and start recapping, will the AP position i get from chair silence help me see some magic faster during recap?
Certainly!
It's a little like my practice these days. I can move to my assemblage point to Silent Knowledge now, in around 5 minutes. Using my palm.
Of course, I get greedy and do it for a half hour, threatening to use too much of my practice time.
Tensegrity done in Silent Knowledge is beyond words. It's a series of tunnels, and portals, and alternate timelines, all triggered by the movements.
Carlos of course could just see this, so it wasn't like he had to be godlike to figure out how to make the movements work well with this.
He could just look...
But he also knew it works at the level of puffs too.
Pre-energy body darkroom.
In your case, if you can move your assemblage point down the J curve first, then recap will be more effective.
Thank you for this. Please explain the last line you mentioned here about finding a
thread and pulling it to find the source:
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Carlos gave us this analogy in private classes.
It's kind of how it feels when you first find real magic, while working hard looking for it.
It's just a TINY little thing.
You even doubt it's significant, even though you can't really explain it away.
It's just not enough, to run out and start your own "magic man" franchise. So the tendency is to think you're just causing that yourself. Or that it's invalid, or just a fluke.
It's one reason that the concept of "Attainment" which is what Zen people are proud of, is the most horrible thing you can be thinking!
Imagine that you believe you are working towards "attainment".
Which I surmise, the Japanese Zen people believe makes you superior to the sloppy Buddhists outside Japan.
Who have no "real" attainment.
Talk about screwing over someone's mind! Japanese Zen masters are merely people with stockholm syndrome from that ugly hazing system which forces you to believe you have "attained" something magnificent.
When in fact, you have nothing but ordinary closed eye meditative effects.
Sorcery is different.
You need to see something IMPOSSIBLE. And with your eyes wide open for best results.
So Carlos gave the metaphor of scratching the dirt and finding a thread.
A tiny little thread, under the dust of some sunbaked dried mud.
But you can see that it's longer than what's visible, so you gently pull on it, until it starts to come up.
You keep following it, only to find that it's tied to a "string". Something larger.
You keep pulling that up, and find it's attached to a "rope".
That's what it takes to learn magic on your own.
You have to find some, even a tiny bit, and keep pulling it up so that it grows.
You don't wait around to "earn" your "attainment", when in fact, nothing at all is happening.
Ah, so beautifully and clearly explained. Thank you so much!
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