Quick "look" at the red zone?

In the last week I have been practicing silence especially in the morning hours so that I can collect enough sunlight glitter, combined with the last passes written in the book. I started with the passes and then went out into the yard where I laid on a deck chair and placed 2 weights one on top of the other below the navel while playing with the light reflection on my cell phone screen.
For an hour every day I did all this, there were several minutes when I was quite silent.. When I took a break from looking at the reflection the environment around me changed, different and more intense colors mainly with intense deep coloring, small black shadows like ash floated all around me Sometimes I saw some things double, yesterday when I was finishing this practice a cousin of mine came to visit me who knows about my "strange" activities... He sat next to me and at some point turning my head to see him I saw many layers of himself as if coming out of his body and the last layer was a mix of all the previous ones but they had an animal form, something between a dog and a beaver. .Hold on for a few minutes and then it went off..Could it have been a brief red zone experience?
The image below was the closest I could find to this experience

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u/danl999 6 points 2023-03-06 16:06

It could be, but frankly it's a little "too good to be true".

Assuming you are male. I just can't keep track of that type of detail.

And it's a bit "new agey". That's where ordinary perception, houses the "magic".

But in actual sorcery, you basically sleepwalk to get the magic to happen.

So when someone is describing the new agey "auras" they see, you can be sure they're forcing themselves to be willing to say that. Not actually seeing it, but intensely wanting it to be true, finding some jiggle or shake in the assemblage point, and then what they claimed they actually saw, is just a daydream like image that comes to them, as a result of being fussy.

Robert Monroe actually taught people that was the real thing! There's that ugly incident where people associated with him fooled their way into the CIA, scribbled their ideas on paper, and called that "remote viewing". That even ended up in an episode of "Columbo".

People who comment in here even fell for that type of Monroe pretending. So that they used that obvious abomination, to justify "astral travel" people. Who we've all seen over the years, never manage to break out of the pretending Monroe teaches people to do.

But if it is true you saw that, yes! Of course.

You can get glimpses of any part of the J curve, at any point below the blue line, when the assemblage point is relatively "centered".

That's the crappy part about trying to "explain" a path to sorcery.

That J curve road has side branches! In fact, the assemblage point can move anywhere along the outside of the egg. So you could even remain at the level of the blue line on the J curve, but move sideways to have your assemblage point in the front, still up near the shoulders.

It doesn't only move down the back and up to the front. We simply have no information on how it might move in other ways.

But if you're visualizing and creating it mostly in your internal dialogue, "wishing it with all your might", then daydreaming it to get attention, you might lose everything that way.

Some people might even misunderstand what we're going in here, and assume everyone is "fantasizing" their experiences, using ordinary daydreaming.

A few meditation students have admitted that to me. They learned such bad habits with their meditation techniques, that they didn't even realize we aren't doing that same thing in here.

You REALLY do see these things. You don't, "turn your head into waking fantasies" (daydreams), to see it.

So we haven't yet learned what's up with "super talented" people.

But if you want to know if those "daydream magic" types exist, just look at Jesus freaks.

God himself often comes to tell them they're forgiven for being gay. Or for that accidental murder in the past. Not equating the two, but those are common tales of the "forgiveness" of Jesus.

They REALLY do "see" that happen.

Could also be too much past drug usage, so that their assemblage point moves by itself to sideways positions.

But it could also be that people who engage in a lot of Buddhist meditation, have an advantage if they drop that and put as much effort into sorcery. It's just that, usually they aren't willing to drop the delusional egotistical aspects of Buddhism. Because they seek endorsements more than magic.

Our endorsements aren't worth as much as some might assume. In fact I'm counting on it, in the case of men who make up experiences. They'll realize, we don't have what they're after. And hopefully go away.

Yet it could even be, we'll run into a double being in here!

1 in 500 of the women is a double, is my barely educated guess.

I have no idea about men because when you find one, you can't approach them to learn how or why.

We just don't know who is liable to show up in here.

But we've had fakers before too, and it's really hard to call them out.

You only get to do that when you catch them contradicting themselves.

Usually in the chat area.

My theory is that fakers get impatient and will either go away, or try to "change strategies".

The way Hanskey did, trying to get women to come have sorcery chat sex. Wasn't getting enough male attention, he didn't feel good enough "teaching" in chat, so he started to go nuts and attack women.

Maybe thinking he could share their talent if he just got himself a little herd of admiring women.

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u/Financial-Ad6596 2 points 2023-03-06 17:08

Yes I'm male, I've never dealt with Monroe though... I've meditated about 10 times so far in my life but I've never been deeply interested in dealing with him, I don't find anything essential in sitting with my eyes closed, the same for astral projection.
To better explain how the experience happened..
That I had finished what I was doing and was just sitting relaxed when my cousin came towards me, I had heard him coming but I didn't pay much attention because I wanted to stay as long as I could in the prevailing relaxation inside me, he came and sat next to me and when I turned to look at him I saw the layers, it lasted about half to 1 minute?, while I was shaking my head what I saw coming out of my cousin followed the direction of my eyes eg I looked to the right it came out and went right, I was looking up, go up, as long as I was steady I couldn't see anything..Also while looking I could momentarily zoom in close to the faces, the hair from the animal form was kind of like liquid and translucent.
I really didn't want to see anything or for anything to happen because I had stopped all "training", I was just sitting relaxed, while I was looking at the layers there was interference from the internal dialogue because I wanted to tell my cousin what I see,in the end I didn't say anything, I just "acted" strangely in his eyes and he asked me if I was alright.