I remember reading in one of the books when some students were forbidden from going to an ancient city, because they were more susceptible to be affected by some residual energy from practitioners from the past. If I'm not mistaken, a series of unfortunate events followed them, like some dog bit them, the same dog several of them, something like that.
So, I was wondering, when we start practicing this and move our AP, are we making ourselves vulnerable to many other superstitions like that? For example, if there is some 'holy' place where you are not allowed to walk wearing shoes, and if you do, some bad things will start happening to you. Even though to a normal person that would be just a superstition that wouldn't affect them in the slightest, but it does affect you since your AP can move now?
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when you start the path of knowledge you become accessible to power, and that implies risks. ordinary people have relatively more protections against such risks than sorcerers
That sucks
He means shields. Blinders. As in a protection that makes one blind to the actual workings of the "hidden" universe.
Remember that modern human society renders us essentially powerless, to anything but slinging petty and temporary social and material exchanges in human society..
Sorcerers are accessible to other and broader forces, which means real things can happen to them...as they're not trapped in human delusions that shut them off from most everything.
No risk. No transformation. Just the same mostly-stagnant crap in the human domain.
Yeah, but if those blinders make non-believers protected from the effects of superstitions but our free seeing makes us vulnerable to them, where is the benefit in throwing away our blinders? Not that one can easily put them back on once they experienced the movement of the AP anyway. I thought putting in work gives me advantage not makes me weaker than people who go through life blindly.
First, it's not about belief. But direct experience.
Nothing else really changes us.
And of course you're stronger! But what use are reawakened perceptual 'muscles' without challenges to test them against, or explore with?
And everyone remembers from childhood that sometimes when you explore you encounter mishaps, but that doesn't mean it wasn't worth it!
We're told in the books that regular non-sorcery types are pestered by random poltergeist and other such paranormal activity (IOB's) much more than a practicing sorcerer.
The IOB's want to wake them up, to get their attention.
And since a sorcerer is always seeking that out, such contact occurs in a more structured format that they can derive facility from...when a regular person just gets the shit scared out of them! ; and then goes back to business as usual, largely unchanged and no better off.
It may also have been because some of Don Juan's lineage were there, contrary to the advice not to visit such places. One may conclude that it's not good for someone's intent to go against the advice of a Nagual. It may be that everything would have remained okay if such places had been visited solely for a valid reason, resulting in a need, rather than for the sake of folly.
Interesting. Could be.
I don't bring stray rocks home from the Mexican Pyramids I visit.. And I warn friends to do the same. I feel you have to make yourself accessible to outside forces before they can affect you?
I read Journey to Ixtlan, almost 50 years ago. It saved my life, and gave me a path with heart. I worry not about spell casters and such human willy warts. But there are some things out there that go bump in the night, that I steer clear of.
Oh and no tattoos, of course.
Why “no tattoos, of course”?
Yes I would also like to know this!!!
Don't worry about it.
Remember that tribal societies have, traditionally, all sorts of body modifications going on. And some members of those societies were sorcerers.
Our western culture is always tweaking itself, being a "melting pot" and all.
What could be concerning is semi-permanently attaching yourself to some specific body art that no longer connects with you, or that you're working at recapping "away" (de-energizing).
In that case, I guess laser-removal? Or have it worked-over with another tattoo that is more abstract or will be more meaningful to you into the future.
"Where I go these days, I prefer to go unmarked" Unrecognizable.
Don Juan~
It's in the book.
I feel like that's stuff to worry about when you're at the level of swimming in Silent Knowledge. THEN it probably makes sense to be impeccable, erase personal history, etc. Otherwise, people will just be prone to pretending that they are a sorcerer because they don't have tattoos, are "impeccable warriors", etc.
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Witches suck...
They'll find a way. So the answer is yes. Others can put spells or curses on you.
But so what????
How fun is that?
Taisha once warned her female students not to do Tensegrity barefoot in a place they liked to visit. Possibly north of Santa Monica.
She said there were inorganic beings in the soil who would crawl into your foot.
By the time I finished hearing that story, I already had my shoes and socks off and was asking, "Where?! Where, where where???.."
My friends who know Cholita constantly try to get me to toss her out, asking why I put up with a crazy woman who wants me dead.
The answer is simple!
SHE DOES REAL MAGIC!
Okay, this is not good news at all lol I thought we were supposed to become MORE powerful and protected, not more vulnerable and fragile than even regular humans. 😳
I didn't say that.
I just said you can't guarantee magic won't affect you just because you do sorcery.
At least, not until you reach the level of a don Juan and can "see" it in the emanations, and tweak the results.
Anyway, it's not like there's a choice on what to practice!
Everything else is a total fraud, designed to steal money from people.
So you become "victimized by magic", if you waste your time on anything else.
Witches aside. They can make their own magic. Using whatever they like.
But they're just summoning intent.
If they have any spirits they're using, then that's a benefit to us.
To have them send a spirit.
You might easily just take it away from them.
And to have enough power to make it work most of the time, would take a Soledad level witch.
Not an enochian euromagic witch.
Cursed places are likewise a golden opportunity if you can "see".
To find out why.
I'd gladly pick up some of those old seer curses on objects.
To see what goes on.
Hm, so other magic can affect us, but not the official religions though, right? Official major religions also have a lot of superstitious beliefs. I was hoping at least those were BS that a sorcerer doesn’t have to worry about. For example, “don’t put some pastry baked for Easter in your purse, but carry it in your hands” Or “Don’t throw away this newspaper/magazine because it has our god’s name in it” all sort of rules from all sorts of major religions and local mini-cults that I’m curious if now that ap moves can affect me
The official religions keep us as food stuff for something…
Well... the way you put that last part is like a wild card.
Can those move your ap?
Of course!!
Cholita uses Bagua mirrors to "trap" me. She creates elaborate spells designed to do who knows what?
But using anything that seems "logical" for that spell.
She'll even stick a pair of panties at the start of the spell, so I can't help but notice it.
Or a $1 bill.
I like the panties better. I've saved up around 6 in a box. But only when they were in the trash.
Some of her spells start in the trash container, sitting on the very top.
So Cholita uses anything she can, to move her own AP.
And then theorizes how to trap me in some kind of "intent spell".
Those could work! Just ask the neighborhood Tom cat, who angered Cholita and died in a very unlikely freak truck accident a short while later.
She "intended" the cat to be gone.
Even watching your turds swirl down in the toilet bowl, can move your ap and affect you.
Anything can move it, once it's loose.
Your steps. Shadows. The fog and wind.
In fact, that's one of the things Tensegrity does which I can't possibly put into a picture. Maybe into a cartoon, but not a still.
It "retrains" how you feel about reality and solidity. Until you can literally move your assemblage point, just by walking around.
But for what you meant, the answer is No.
Religions are all con games made up after money was invented.
Study them if you get a chance! Carlos gave me the task to study the bible, but if you study that you end up studying all Asian systems, since they originate from the same place as Judaism.
Anything newer than money is crapola.
Nothing to worry about from that nonsense, unless they secretly poison you the way some magical cults are rumored to do, to give the illusion of magic.
Now, if you want exceptions...
Our magic is ice age magic, from proto-siberia. It thrived when they migrated to south america when the last ice age ended.
Most world religions obviously come from a north african strain of ancient shamanism. Pre-money. Just look at the migrations of the peoples, and what their oldest writings say about "the renowned men of old".
Hinduism, Daoism, and thus Buddhism, also come from that middle eastern region where Judaism comes from, which was fed from that north african population migration.
It just spread north through the landmasses connected to africa.
You can follow it historically, but be careful because some crappy hinduism peddlers have made up a new narrative with absolutely nothing to back it up.
So if someone claims Hinduism does NOT come from Iran, and thus from Ishtar based religions, ask them for why they believe that.
They can't point to anything at all. They always run away if you insist on see their source.
Some make the argument about that 10,000 year old population already in India. But there's no good evidence for what that might have been.
And there's plenty for pre-Hinduism in Iran. In fact, the bible itself complains about the origins of Hinduism in Iran and that area. Calls them out on how they worship, and it matches what goes on in India now.
What's more interesting however, is that my Ally "Mystery" claimed there were 8 "strains" of shamanism very long ago.
Like maybe 100,000 years ago. Pre-language.
And remember, we're talking pre money. Pre writing systems. Pre books. Pre cities.
So there was absolutely no benefit to making up magic back then.
No one would do it!
So anything you can find that truly comes from those original strains, will contain REAL magic created over thousands of years, by people who didn't make up stuff. They only had magic, because it helped them survive better.
I can't emphasize enough, anything created after money is make believe.
Just watch this subreddit to see how impossible it is, to fight off the make believe stuff.
Even our own Miles is possibly now absorbed by make believe.
Lost his mommy Cholita would claim, so he got another one.
Patricia?
And then to the fun part.
We DO know of 2 more strains of ancient shamanism.
The one still present in Australia.
And the ones sprinkled on the Islands of southeast Asia.
Like Taiwan. But Japan too!
Those have witches. And it seems to be left over magic from very long ago. Pre-money even.
"Islander Shamanism".
I haven't studied Australian Aboriginal magic, but I'm assuming it's a slightly different variety than they have for example, among the "native indian" population of Taiwan.
Who are indistinguishable from the chinese, unless you start measuring foot and breast size.
I need to make a cartoon about this, featuring my entity "Mystery".
But still, that's only 4 strains of ancient magic.
And Mystery said 8.
So what else is out there?
Could the Celts have had some ancient shamanism? A pre-jewish migrations "euro-strain"?
Unfortunately, whatever you hear about Celtic magic is made up.
There's just a few lines of text anywhere, discussing their magic. And it's nothing to write home about. The rest you find is just bad players making up stuff to sell.
Maybe there's other ancient strains which are just not visible to us, because they're like the new seers who hide their lineages?
People who have real magic don't need to promote it. Because they aren't going to be willing to earn a living with it.
Don't need to!
And we certainly can't say it's impossible to have magic that's different from ours.
There's those "dangerous" types of inorganic beings.
There's my "Stella", who seems to be an inorganic being that's a tiny part of a sun.
There's "The Abstract", which is completely impossible to even think clearly about.
And which might in fact be the "glue" between worlds.
So different forms of magic might actually be possible.
But those would be REAL magic.
Not church propaganda.
So, it seems like if you can move your AP YOU can give a religious superstition power. Before I moved my AP I would easily throw away religious pamphlets into trash, because my AP was fixed it never created any supernatural problems for me. But now that the AP moves I’m not sure anymore because I threw away some pamphlets like usually, and a series of unfortunate events ensued. Is there any way to protect yourself from this in the future?
I suppose that's a negative side of being a woman, easily inspired by anything around you.
Which means you can also be "uninspired" by things.
Things can be both helpful intent, and counter intent.
I never realized that.
For the men, "counter intent" is an invading rival.
A chimp like attack on the leader of the tribe.
So we just beat our chests and ward him off.
In extreme cases, maybe some hench monkeys grab him by the arms and toss him off a cliff.
But I have actually noticed that Cholita is superstitious.
It just never occurred to me why.
I can't really tell you what to do but in the case of Cholita, when she believes she picked up some negative magic, she just designs a counter spell.
Probably already has one for most situations.
I used to be the target of her counter spells, giving rise to her odd behavior since there wasn't any rational explanation for what was bothering her.
It would be stuff like, she can't open the top of a new spice bottle from Whole Foods, so she believes I'm using dark magic to convince her to shop at a cheaper store.
Or she finds I didn't flush the toilet well enough, and that has to have been a curse on her.
But now I see it.
Her trick was to draw a diagram undoing the bad magic, and place it at the source of the problem.
Me. She put it where I could see it, in a place she knows I pass by daily.
Which gave me wonderful opportunities to see her witchcraft in action.
But other witches do the same!
They'll make a counter spell and drop it off in a church or on church grounds.
Or in a graveyard.
That sort of thing would work, because you're summoning "intent", to fight back against "counter intent".
Please consider, NONE OF THIS MAKES ANY SENSE.
The world is NOT rational and predictable, and if you can only wrestle it into submission you can have a tidy, happy life.
That mistaken belief is obsession with "meaning".
It all evaporates in pure silence, and you "get another choice".
So there's nothing to criticize, if magic being used seems like total nonsense.
That's besides the point!
Does it move intent, and alter the skimmings of the emanations?
Then it's effective magic!
Especially where women are concerned.
Thus women like flowers a LOT more than men do.
We just use them to bribe women into having sex.
Also as meaningless as I stated about reality. But it works!
Man...
The politics women have in their minds.
Men just want to smash something when they get into trouble.
It's possible that occasionally (rarely) Cholita realizes a counter spell won't work, and she has some blame in the matter. So it's "negative karma".
So she compensates reality. Pays back what she believes she owes.
Rarely...
Yeah… I miss my atheist era, when I didn’t have to worry about ANY OF THIS BS lol Now I have to be creating “counter spells”, whatever the hell that even means. This shit sucks man.
I’m embarrassed to ask, but I’m deeply curious and I just stumbled upon this post… what is AP? 🙏🏻
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/assemblage_point
Thanks.
If it makes ya feel any better I was routinely attacked at such locations long before knowing anything about castaneda!