Seeing forms

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Seeing forms
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I am hoping someone more knowledgeable than myself can shed some light on an experience I had. I want to understand the "system" involved in what I saw. A few years ago I was training to be a hypnotherapist. My goal was to conduct a bunch of past life regressions on new agers and get paid for it. I didn't want to get involved with a client coming back to me for multiple visits when heaven forbid I might be able to help them. It was all very superficial for me and meditation and hypnosis always had my interest.
The 500 hour course was grueling. It was half online and then after each module was finished I would have to meet up at this school/office complex to practice what I learned and to observe techniques. The owner/teacher was a very greedy and exploitative man. I didn't like him in the least but I wanted to learn. Besides learning hypnosis techniques he did a lot of guided meditations to us and also hypnotism sessions. During one of the in person classes , the teacher was teaching in front of us. I think we just came out of a guided meditation and I was in a light trance. I now think of this as the second attention. I observe the teacher has a large black outlined form behind him. It is a human shape but no human characteristics like eyes, mouth, hair etc. The form is filled with a brown color like someone used a stamper and swirled the stamp ink through out the human form. It formed out of the back of him, it surrounded him. Head shape, arms, torso etc When he gestured his arm, it gestured at the same exact time. I look around and nobody else sees this. I watch the teacher as he moves towards a student sitting up front. I think that now since his "aura/energy body" is visible to me by proximity I will see hers. No, this was not the case. I watched the form's arm go very close to this woman student and it had a definite boundary. The brown color was contained inside of a black colored boundary. Ok, the course is grueling to me. I had an abusive childhood and it is being dragged to the forefront of my consciousness. I decided to be my own client and help myself. I could no longer escape my memories or thoughts.The next module was age regression hypnosis. Since I had no love for this teacher, I decided to pay a mentor to critique me on age regression hypnosis. This was a mentor I trusted and she was also my hypnotherapist for the duration of the course. I had to bring in my own client (family member) and go through the whole age regression protocol to pass the module. We were allowed to look at notes and we had to take notes on what our client said. However, it was suggested we get into a light trance ourselves so we can "impart information to our client." From where this information came from was not specified. I find staying in a light trance peaceful and do it with ease when I am lulled by the montone hypnospeak of my own voice and deep breathing. As I am speaking with my client, I see a white light forming over him. It looks like a jail cell , a grid. I am surprised but I keep my cool. The cell of white light goes down to his torso and lays over his body but not touching it. Probably a couple of inches over it. He is lying down. Where his chest is there is a face. It is made of the same white light. It has slit like eyes and it is pushing through the grid of light. It is struggling. Do you know those halloween decorations where you see a creepy face pushing through a white wall or a shower curtain? It was like that. It was staring at me. I felt sorry for it. My vocabulary at the time gave me energy fragment. But I have since read about Genaro and the waterfall. I also think of giving birth despite my client being male.
I look over at my mentor. She now has the form of the human outline in back if her. Just like the teacher had yet hers is different. Her form is filled with greens and blue colors. They are moving and beautiful. It is not fully closed, there is an opening on it's right shoulder where the colors are pouring in from mid air. It reminded me of old photoshop paint bucket . My client is really under distress and very uncomfortable. I tell my mentor that I can see her aura she asks what it looks like and I tell her. She basks under this description. Now, I could not see any white lights coming from her nor could I see this form behind my supine client. Only his lighted jail cell and this poor face struggling to get through. Ok, I have read a few CC books and I have read many links on this subreddit. In fact as a gift, I have received all of the books and I have been making my way through them. Plus I read the two Taisha books. Carlos didn't know what an aura was, if I remember one of the links I read. I admit this experience motivates me to keep reading and practicing. I do recapitulation daily even though it can be an emotional nightmare. I sometimes combine it with hypnosis since I can bring up some very early people. I have a black out eye mask and I practice dark room. I also do some light tensegrity moves. After reading one of the books I decided that what I see is for me. I don't have to "help" my client due to this struggling face coming out of his chest. But I want to know what I saw. I think both the grid of light and the form of the body are connected. They are part of the person. Was my mentor and teacher making a shield for themselves? They weren't aware of this form themselves. I have been confused about the face. I thought for a time it could be his double but I have discounted that, I thought the aura was an energy body then I thought it might be part of the egg but I think I am incorrect on all accounts. Why was my mentors right shoulder of her form open when my creepy teacher's form was closed. Where do these colors come from? So, can someone please give me their input on what I saw? I have other experiences to keep up my motivation. I just would like some clarity on this. Thank you
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u/danl999 2 points 2023-03-21 20:21

Hypnotism, like Shamanic drumming, activates the green line effects on our J curve.

https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/mtfwhb/even_better_j_curve_diagram/

Once you perceive something that "isn't really there", and treat it as real, you can intensify the experience. Maybe even dip down halfway to the red zone.

Unfortunately, we're plagued by new people who want to create the idea they experienced magic, as part of attention seeking in here.

It's an endless flow.

And there's never any good way to deal with it.

You don't want to discourage someone sincere, but with so many attacking this subreddit, it would be completely destroyed if we didn't ignore feeling sorry for new people.

That sort of thing destroyed all other magical system, so that now there's nothing out there.

It would be nice to just point to a cartoon about hypnotism. Or any other topic no one wants to touch directly.

Maybe I'll make a folder in my list of future cartoons, to address hypnotism.

"Shaman Bob" gets a hypnotist certification.

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u/danl999 4 points 2023-03-21 21:32

No, you're mixing in Buddhist advice.

Study more.

The advice all other "magical" systems give people is designed to prevent going any further than that green line.

Because it's too much trouble for them, not understanding what comes next themselves. And because they're only in it for the money.

No one wants to teach you step by step.

We just can't do that.

And don't want to, since no one in here makes money in any way from all this.

Also, only 1 in 100 who comes here as you have, keeps trying.

So it's a waste of time because it's 99% for sure you'll be gone in 2 weeks.

No matter what anyone does.

Which we'd have repeated thousands of times at this point if we didn't realize you can't help people.

If you can't read and learn or need someone to motivate you to work, you're not going to get anywhere here.

It's real magic.

It comes at the price of having to actually do a lot of real work.

Instead of just chatting, visiting, and memorizing facts.

None of that helps at al.