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The past 3 days I have spent 2 hours at least each day gazing into complete darkness. The most i see is some shadows moving and very occasionally I see faint grey/orange swirls or even more occasionally very very faint blue swirls. But not the purple “puffs” I hear about on here. Am I doing something wrong?
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u/SenkoToast 2 points 2023-03-25 07:09

Better than me, most i got was a little bit of sparkle and some kind of really black blob that kept going into purple color :P

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u/CiChocolate 1 points 2023-03-25 11:16

what color was your sparkle?

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u/SenkoToast 1 points 2023-03-25 16:07

it was like little glass pieces spread around my field of vision

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u/MouseCooking 2 points 2023-03-25 07:41

Have you maybe tried darkroom gazing more frequently or perhaps after exercising?

I get those too so I asked my optometrist and he said that’s just how our eyes work :/
Good luck and keep trying though!

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u/Any_Astronomer7666 1 points 2023-03-25 12:11

Yeah nothing really happened. I’ll try again though

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u/The2ndAttention 5 points 2023-03-25 09:11

3 days isn't very long.
Are you practising Silence?
Are you doing any Tensegrity while in the darkroom.
You need to. If you don't know what I mean then you need to read more first.

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u/Any_Astronomer7666 1 points 2023-03-25 12:16

Yes I’m practicing silence, I did tensegrity while I was lying down but honestly I didn’t feel or notice any direct effect from doing it

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u/isthisasobot 3 points 2023-03-25 09:48

Advice- savour the the darkness, it' s a good place to go .. like something you' ve set aside for later.
Like if you see a spectacular light show or whatever too quickly like instant results you' d be fucked from here to tokio in every possible way, like what can happen with..drugs.

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u/Any_Astronomer7666 0 points 2023-03-25 12:12

At the moment I’m just using it as a form of meditation.. I enjoy the dark but I really want to experience all this other stuff I’m hearing about here. Maybe it just takes time?

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u/superr 14 points 2023-03-25 16:28

3 days is nothing. That's an extremely short amount of practice time to get any kind of results. I'm going to guess you're male because usually only men are that obsessed with progress. Us men are not naturally talented so we must use our obsession with progress and fine details the right way and stick to the instructions.

You say you treat darkroom as a form of meditation. See that's a potential problem right there. Wrong intent. Darkroom is decidedly NOT meditation even though it certainly feels similar. We are not simply observing our thoughts but seek to actively suppress those thoughts through actively forcing them out and redirecting our attention elsewhere (on tensegrity movements and gazing at anything that "isn't really there"). We are not looking inwards like in meditation; our attention is instead focused outwards. And thinking of all this as simply meditation does not hook you into the right intent of the ancient seers of our lineage, it hooks you into Eastern spirituality intent instead.

It also takes time to see results because I can guarantee that your frustration outside the darkroom implies a latent form of expectation during practice time. And expectation kills progress. There's actually quite a bit of prep work needed to create good darkroom sessions. You need to have the right mindset of "non-concern" going into the darkroom, stop expectation, have enough energy through recap and practicing silence outside the darkroom, abandon rationality at the door, learn enough tensegrity forms, ruthlessly abandon self-importance and self-pity, save even more energy by stopping the tendency to create fantasy narratives in our heads, etc, etc. And you'd undoubtedly have some form of expectation if you did a good job on all that prep work going into the darkroom. That's why it takes practice. You need to keep doing it in the right conditions where it just becomes a natural part of your day. In that mood, you're no longer fighting yourself to force results.That's when the magic starts showing up intensely.

I also want to emphasize that darkroom is not a passive sitting activity! Try doing as much tensegrity as possible; each unique movement and long form produces visible magic! No magic? You're not silent enough, didn't follow instructions and not enough patience!

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u/Any_Astronomer7666 1 points 2023-03-25 19:53

Thanks that actually helps a lot 🙏

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 6 points 2023-03-25 11:20

The mind is a storm. I'd venture for literally everyone (those who won't admit it are simply lying). And rather than rain it "brings the world," and only the world.

This one.

Quiet the storm (easier said than done!), and you see with the clarity of a sunny day....as opposed to the chaos of a full-blown tempest.

Darkness is a good aid to screen one of the most apparent sensory triggers that continually kicks up the storm, vision...and the endless associations it sets up.

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u/Any_Astronomer7666 1 points 2023-03-25 12:15

Hmm, I’m not sure how much more quiet my mind can be really. I’ve practiced meditation before and I know the goal is to not have any thoughts in that moment. I actually thought I managed that quite well today. But still, no interesting experience really. I’ll try again tonight.

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u/danl999 8 points 2023-03-25 14:02

You need real tensegrity, standing up.

The use of muscle memory might help you actually get silent.

But how long can you go without a single word in your mind.

If you can't answer that, it shows you aren't actually forcing silence.

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u/isthisasobot 3 points 2023-03-25 14:07

Actually realized that must've sounded creepy..savour the darkness. Just goes to show how description can mess things up sometimes.

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u/Any_Astronomer7666 1 points 2023-03-25 14:33

Lmao it’s cool dw

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u/midgetsinheaven 2 points 2023-03-29 12:56

Have you been reading the books?