Done Enough (The Puff Sample Video)

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It's not perfect, but it shows some basic principles.

Beginners: THIS IS NOT AN EXAGERATION!

Not even Westerly Witch walking on clouds.

I've tried to chase her when she does stuff like that.

Just can't catch her.

Those who have seen the puffs, feel free to criticize in detail.

They ought to animate their shape a bit, but that's a "loop" on an object, and I don't know how to do that yet.

The dream bubble is too abrupt, and not as clear as the real thing.

The crystalline edges on that one puff are lame. I couldn't find a suitable picture to use for colorful crystals around the edge of a puff.

If anyone has a pic like that, send it!

The Allies come and go too "normally".

They need to fade in and out, although Minx (the boy) does get that real if you go into a phantom realm that Cholita made. He's so real in there, he could punch you and it would hurt.

Fairy rarely appears for that long, in one spot.

But otherwise, welcome to real magic!

I sure hope you don't fall for meditation anymore.

Closed eyes???!

That's not going anywhere. Unless all you want is to sit on a little throne, or give lectures on YouTube so you can steal money from others.

Ask one of those guys about this and why can't they do that, and they'll tell you it's "evil".

Using their own delusional terminology.

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u/Juann2323 5 points 2023-05-16 00:02

It's a great job!

I like all 4. I vote to rotate them, since they could all be faithful representations.

Regarding the crystalline edges, I am going to share one of my favorite designs to extract textures.

The image has such a good quality and many different objects. Abstract and concrete, wich seem accurate for red zone puffs.

I used to zoom in and choose the closest thing to what I was looking for at the moment.

If reddit doesn't share it well, I'll send it to you by another means.

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u/Juann2323 5 points 2023-05-16 00:03

Another option.

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u/danl999 6 points 2023-05-16 12:19

Man, that pic could actually cause "the evil clown effect" in beginners!

I put it in my folder.

If we were bad people, we could make cartoons that cause nightmares.

Wait...

"The Nightmare Series"!

Maybe it's a "complete path"?

Just not a pleasant one.

But perhaps attractive to goth and emo people, if those still exist.

I'll take goth over woke anytime!

They wear better clothes.

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u/Juann2323 1 points 2023-05-16 22:39

But perhaps attractive to goth and emo people, if those still exist.

I'll take goth over woke anytime!

They wear better clothes.

And they listen to better music!

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u/danl999 2 points 2023-05-17 13:20

So that's what's gone wrong with music lately?

I just thought all the men were going gay because "the chicks like it".

Carlos was NOT "woke".

Cholita heard him say things that would get you canceled, a few times driving around with him.

Which oddly, might have been with her doing the driving. She ended up with one of his older cars.

But she never mentions that kind of detail to me. Being his chauffer, even a few times, is a bit of a status symbol.

I've been trying to recover the word in Spanish Carlos used, on passing by the Mall on Santa Monica Blvd. One of Cholita's favorite malls but probably not the one Taisha liked to take women to.

Cholita took me in there, with a warning. And it turned out to be right. The men at that mall are 50% gay.

It's astonishing. We only got in 20 feet, and there were two men French kissing.

We had a lovely time with the gay sales guy in the leather store. But that's because Cholita picked up $$$$ in stuff to buy.

So while driving down the street with Carlos, he remarked how everyone along that stretch of Santa Monica Blvd was gay.

He said, "They're all VENDAYHO!"

Except, that wasn't the actual word, and I can't locate it.

ChatGPT has censored it, so it won't tell me. It even said it's not allowed to relate swear words that might offend others.

But Carlos chose his words carefully.

And his group had a huge percentage of gay people, both men and women.

So he wasn't homophobic at all.

He was complaining that they're all showing off how gay they are.

Like a fake sorcerer with eagle feathers in his Rambo headband.

Him complaining about show-offs is anti-wokeness.

Just keeping your junk to yourself and not trying to suck up attention and outrage over it.

Wokeness needs to shock and anger. It's a pointless attack on the social order, for the purpose of attention seeking.

Not for the purpose of escaping it.

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u/Juann2323 1 points 2023-05-17 23:02

I will make a list of options I know, that also mean gay in Spanish.

Mostly street vocabulary.

Some of them could be a bit offensive, so forgive me readers.

"MARICONES"
"TROLOS"
"PUTOS"
"AFEMINADOS"
"INVERTIDO"
"MARIQUITA"

Anyway, I suspect he said something conected to gay people, but not actually saying a synonymous.

Hard to tell what.

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u/danl999 3 points 2023-05-18 13:02

Maricones is likely it. It was a bit sign-song. But Spanish in general tends to sound a little sing song to me.

Carlos rarely said anything around apprentices that wasn't designed to teach. Even if it sounded nasty or inappropriate.

The lack of "self" causes that. Most people make offhand comments to get attention from others.

Advanced sorcerers don't really want that cheap stuff. They have infinity to gaze at, anytime they like. And spirits too.

My guess was Carlos was pointing out to Cholita that showing off in a way that stirs up others, for whatever reason, is totally obvious and not admirable.

Be gay, but don't insist others have to dislike it in order to validate yourself.

We don't need to see superman and batman french kissing.

(Disney????...)

Cholita herself likes to show off a bit, in social status seeking ways.

Big diamond rings on women bother her a lot.

I offered to buy her one, but it has to come from normal methods or it "doesn't count".

But her social status seeking is useful for stalking.

Security guards are putty in her hands.

She once gathered up 3 of them, to come arrest me at a shopping mall.

Convinced them she'd been kidnapped and just barely lost me at the mall.

They had guns blazing.

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u/Juann2323 7 points 2023-05-16 00:07

An example (not only the edges):

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u/danl999 3 points 2023-05-16 12:52

I copied it. I'll add it.

I spend a lot of time doing things like that. Seeing how the body can crystalize space.

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u/Juann2323 3 points 2023-05-16 22:42

I have a ton of those pictures of puffs, dreaming fog, fairies in purple clouds.

Fortunately I saved all of them in pdn. file, so I can edit them and delete the text.

If you think you could make use of them let me know and I can send them, in better quality.

But you must have tons as well.

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u/danl999 4 points 2023-05-17 13:24

Actually I have to examine the ones I see on google for a long time before finding ones that are accurate.

So if you send them, I'll put them in a folder to use.

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u/Juann2323 2 points 2023-05-17 22:55

Ok. I will select them when I have time.

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u/danl999 7 points 2023-05-16 12:16

I put it in my "darkroom assets" folder along with other useful things.

Wouldn't you say about these however, that they're changing too fast?

You could see all of those sights, but at that speed it's usually a serious horizontal shift for me.

And in the middle, it's more like one dream image, followed by another, but smoothly merging once you get over the book deal mind and don't interfere.

To slow those down, I'd have to get into the guts of those popcornfx effects. Which are written in C++.

Uhggg....

There was never a more godawful language than C++. It's sheer hell every second you have to program in it.

I'll take assembly language over that any day.

But if they supply the source code, maybe I only need to adjust a "clock rate" variable in them?

Or record them as a little video to stick on a transparency, and play it back 1/4th speed.

Lots of technical tricks to figure out, to make good videos.

But you only have to figure them out once, with computers.

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u/Juann2323 4 points 2023-05-16 22:36

Yeah, their edges normally don't animate that fast.

The electric rays are a bit exaggerated. But I like them anyway.

They have teaching purpouses.

The same we did when we made a picture with saturated colors and high brightness.

The experience could have been a bit different, but the drawing wasn't going to be educative enough.

If you think about it, we never see the puffs in 3rd person view. That's already something we interpret, as artists.

But if you want them to be as representative as possible, I wouldn't make the puffs perfectly circular. An irregular roundel with transparent edges seems more accurate.

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u/danl999 3 points 2023-05-17 12:49

I'm having to REALLY understand the animation software. I just can't do what I want with what I know so far.

I'm looking at stuff in the software so obscure, even ChatGPT doesn't know the answer.

I suppose I'll have to settle for the early tensegrity pass videos being somewhat off in what they show for puffs and pink fog.

I notice that in some TV shows.

First few episodes suck. The characters and sets are poorly developed.

Like that bizarre portrayal of Quark and Rom, in Deep Space nine. In the first few episodes, they were like psychotic animals.

But they mellowed out and had the most interesting personalities in the show.

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u/AthinaJ8 7 points 2023-05-16 00:04

For me in the beginning there is the lower left puff but the intensity of the colour it's not that strong. When it get to that intensity of the colour it's already dense and looks like the upper right puff.

Then the upper right puff looks very close to when the dream images appear or faces or moving characters. The details on that puff are not the best but it gives the idea. Maybe add some yellow details too?

The dream image is very clear and real without the purple details that appear on that puff. When the dream appears it lasts more seconds but it didn't until recently.
When it fades the puff it's holding the 3d texture of the dream . Like the dream is starting to have a dense purple layer that it becomes denser and denser until I can't distinguish any object or detail because the dream it's gone.

So far this video is the best example of what someone can perceive doing darkroom.

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u/Juann2323 8 points 2023-05-16 00:13

Daniel took the examples to the next level.

The pictures were nice. They could make anyone wonder why someone would spend that much time creating something nuts.

They must hide something real.

But the cartoons...

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u/AthinaJ8 4 points 2023-05-16 00:25

The pictures were nice. They could make anyone wonder why someone would spend that much time creating something nuts.

But the cartoons...

You said it all. I could not said it better. The cartoons are game changer.

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u/Juann2323 10 points 2023-05-16 00:41

Damn, I will have to create a Tik Tok account for him.

Can you believe it? An actual sorcerer in there?

I have no doubt it will be a good place to spread Darkrooming.

Most videos in that social media are weird, but still get thousands of likes.

As if you didn't need cultural context to enjoy a random video that lasts less than a minit.

That's an advantage, if we want to make it into all type of people around the world. Especially the youth.

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u/AthinaJ8 6 points 2023-05-16 01:06

It would be the best place to upload a ton of very short videos showing how darkroom works. People love an effortless piece of the unknown. With a catchy music, an air of mystery and subtitles explaining what's happening it will rock.

Most videos in that social media are weird, but still get thousands of likes.

Tik tok it's a very good representation of the river of shit and how addictive it is. There is a whole neuroscience behind how this thing works so that you can't stop scrolling.

Can you believe it? An actual sorcerer in there?

It would be the change for that place. It's such a wasteland of addictive meaningless scream time and a source of some nice new music for me.

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u/Juann2323 5 points 2023-05-16 01:54

"An effortless piece of the unknown". That's a great idea!

I actually like how it works.

Unless you went philosophizing in your spare time as Greeks are suppoused to, we're both from a TV generation.

Wich meaned around 1/3 of the time with inevitable announcements. Even in paid services, like Direct TV.

Netflix seemed to change things.

You can watch the whole movie without interruptions.

Except it makes you realize, most movies have too much padding and not enough real genius.

Not all of it is satisfying to watch, although looking for something else is often worse.

This new mechanism is fully interactive, with high quality content (at least if you have a good algorithm), and instantly skippable annoucements.

You can even see the best of the best, of any serie or movie. Like Doctor House jokes!

Do you think it's a different kind of addiction than TV, PC games, casino, Netflix or food?

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u/AthinaJ8 7 points 2023-05-16 02:58

Personaly I stopped watching tv from 16 and I was watching only movies with my family in the night as an " family" activity. And the reason was of course the endless commercials and the boring content.

I used to be a movie person connected with specific movies or series that marked periods of my life. Indeed there is this point where movies and series are not satisfying to watch anymore.

The good thing with tik tok is that you can manage your algorithm and watch things of your preference that can have quality. To be honest made me go and watch whole episodes of Dr House again or Law and order svu episodes when I was low and I wanted to feel better! Im guilty of that!

Do you think it's a different kind of addiction than TV, PC games, casino, Netflix or food?

Addiction gets bad when it hinders your functionality and diminishes your motivation and productivity. I have observed some young people, mostly from 24 and under ( but not limited in that age group) are stuck watching all day in the bed content from this app and have no motivation whatsoever to do anything else.

It's similar to the people that fry their brains playing unstoppable video games all day everyday since childhood. But worst.

And that's because the different pleasing content that pop's every 30seconds bombards the brain with easy non effort dopamine. So the brain is trained to get the satisfaction dopamine without any effort and now wants more and more. And like that you spend 2 hours there without even noticing how time pasted that fast.

In the worst cases people feel satisfied just watching the content and don't want to do anything else. Watching all that inspiring content that maybe gives inspiration and pleasure but it ends up never doing any of it. The brain gets so fed up with easy dopamine that doing gets boring, difficult and not interesting at all.

Of course if there is personal moderation nothing is harmful. When I used to spend a lot of time there I was feeling my like I was fried. So I just doing it when I'm bored for short period of time.

I believe It has the potential to to alter the perception of how things work. Maybe similarly the way that excessive porn gratification can cause alterations in men's erotic performance in real intercourse situations. Now there are studies that support this for men especially. Even I know young men who have issues that should not be there at their age.

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u/Juann2323 7 points 2023-05-16 03:56

Dopamine is also tricky in the green zone.

It makes you feel good, and keep looking for the next sight that increases that perfection.

To the point of pursuing superficial goals, such as being the happiest person in a meeting.

But it actually needs some work, and is not sustaintable for too long. Until pretending is all you have.

I guess we don't want to go deep into any of those morbids states of awareness.

We just receive the rewards without getting lost in them. Even blue zone rewards like Tik Toks!

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u/AthinaJ8 6 points 2023-05-16 09:01

The thing with dopamine and the brain is that we can reprogram the brain to make dopamine while we are doing sustained effort. It needs persistence and dedication and then even persistence gives you satisfaction. This harnessing of the brain is essential for any new skill someone tries to learn.

Observing the high achivers makes you realise that they get satisfaction and pleasure from doing difficult tasks and they don't spend much "useless" time as the people that are a lot less productive.

So the same principle applies to darkroom. I strongly believe we are rewiring the brain and even creating some good neuroplasticity while keeping pushing in practice to move to the J curve. And also maybe that's why it's so difficult for people to learn it and move forward .

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u/Juann2323 4 points 2023-05-16 22:46

That makes a lot of sense.

I noticed a barrier of an hour and a half, after wich practice gets easier.

Like an inertia to keep trying more and more.

I like your ideas, they give me dopamine.

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u/AthinaJ8 3 points 2023-05-16 23:17

Another dopamine intake.

Neurogenesis happens when we put effort and keep going while we find it difficult to move on. And if you are 24 or under you have it a lot easier than the olders so you hit the jackpot.

For you only It's 50€ for all of it. It's a special price only for you, without receipt of course. Others get charged 50€ only because I passed them the water. So add it to the catalogue and you pay later. Not anything else I'm obliged to keep the greek hospitality law because you are a foreign.

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u/Juann2323 2 points 2023-05-17 00:15

50€? Did I break something?

Don't forget I'm in LATAM, I deserve a special price.

We usually get special treatment inside the World Trade, but not because of our remarkable products...

It's because we are considered a "developing country". What a shame.

Doesn't matter. Still proud of the culture and the World Cup.

I knew something smelled bad when it was about a blonde greek hospitality.

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u/AthinaJ8 3 points 2023-05-17 00:58

It shows that you are a developing country.

As hospitality says to treat you the best in own ways, I must tell you that you have to develop bargain skills to make agreements. Not relay on the pity excuse of the weak position. Look how bad this policy went even for us, that we got diched by the banks just like you.

For the culture and the land I will be more generous with you.

Because I'm blonde it's 50 on your own currency.

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u/Juann2323 2 points 2023-05-17 02:00

I can afford that, and you'll get a generous tip.

Except you could only buy a few candies with $50.

I promiss they will be the most delicious ones.

It's said that eating a candy when you are doing exams increases the dopamine and concentration becomes easier.

It sounds like a fair deal for both parts.

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u/AthinaJ8 1 points 2023-05-18 17:56

Damnit It , better do it a nice argentinian food or a local crystal 💎

I'm not a candy person!

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u/AthinaJ8 3 points 2023-05-16 09:29

I guess we don't want to go deep into any of those morbids states of awareness.

We just receive the rewards without getting lost in them. Even blue zone rewards like Tik Toks!

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u/danl999 8 points 2023-05-16 12:49

WAIT!!!!

Sorcery porn...

Just saying.

How about "The Nagual Julian does Texas".

I'll add that to my "to do" list.

Nightmare causing sorcery cartoons. Need those. Check.

And porno sorcery cartoons. Catch the young men who always ask for my permission to masturbate.

Also check! It's a public service in fact.

But you could mix. In the time honored cinema tradition of having at least one good shot for the promos.

Like that detective show from the 70s, Mannix.

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When westerly witch climbs up in the clouds, you should catch a look under her skirt?

It would be like Mary Poppins except you get to see what the entire male audience always wanted to see.

Including that perverted chimney sweep.

Trust me.

It would be "in character" for westerly witch to do something like that.

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u/danl999 5 points 2023-05-16 12:28

but the intensity of the color it's not that strong.

Would you say that what you're liking about it, is that the edges are more diffuse? Or you actually like the "fire" look?

And would it be more realistic if the speed were altered? I can record it as a video, and play back at any speed.

They have objects in animation called, "billboards". They can play videos just like modern LED sign billboards, but they always face the camera.

>Maybe add some yellow details too?

Mixed in, or "under" it, or to the side swirling with black?

The yellow is still mysterious to me.

I'm convinced it's "rational contamination" of the puffs by the tonal awareness present in the pouches.

In other words, when you see yellow associate with a puff, you're looking at a "mini-me" of you double, ready to do "lucid dreaming" using the yellow energy until it's evaporates and returns to your pouches.

Of course, there's really no way to define such things, because once you can silence the mind and assemble other realities, the number is infinite, and the rules can be different in each one.

For beginners, let me add that if you are studying a "magical system" and the rules are written on a stone tablet, then it's a fraud.

REAL reality is total chaos until you put limits on it.

If someone only talks about the limits, they've never seen the chaos.

Which is automatically encountered if you really are exploring reality.

>So far this video is the best example of what someone can perceive doing darkroom.

It'll get better over time.

I'm just wondering if I need to include a WARNING!!! in each video.

Not to become an "inventory warrior" and assume what you see here, is what everyone sees.

But that encourages beginners to make up stuff. We already get too much of that.

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u/AthinaJ8 3 points 2023-05-16 17:31

Would you say that what you're liking about it, is that the edges are more diffuse?

Yes, the puffs are never so perfectly round.

And would it be more realistic if the speed were altered? I can record it as a video, and play back at any speed.

Yes it would work perfectly with normal speed or even 0.75 speed of like 5 full seconds before it starts to fade.

Mixed in, or "under" it, or to the side swirling with black?

Mixed in like the purple puff has a lot small gold bright diamonds that change places on the puff. And it's kinda rocky in the look like the yellow details are in front of the purple and they have density. Or a bit of red. Oh I always forget the red. Some small red details like diamonds here and there in that dense blob. And usually explodes in to a dream when it's that dense.

On another puff yes yellow swirling with blackness around the purple puff. Or 3 of them together. Or even a small black and yellow swirl just playing on the sides.

In other words, when you see yellow associate with a puff, you're looking at a "mini-me" of you double, ready to do "lucid dreaming" using the yellow energy until it's evaporates and returns to your pouches.

Talking for a mimi me. 3 days ago in drg on the dreams that appeared in the puffs Infront of me there were also scenes with a person doing something. For example digging the soil with his hands. Sometimes a man sometimes a woman. The thing was that I was feeling like I was digging the soil and at the same time looking him doing it. I was sure that I was dreaming so I kept telling to see my hands. It didn't work of course and it didn't make sense to me what's was happening. That happened some times. After I started dreaming and commanding to see my hands again wich I did and then I fall asleep and saw very disturbing dreams.
Anyway I believe it was the double that I was watching doing random stuff because I can't explain why I could feel like I was doing them but I was watching someone in the puff doing them.

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u/danl999 4 points 2023-05-16 18:42

I'll have to try that.

A "Puff Mirror" that shows the double and what it's doing, instead of you.

There's such a thing as "the mirror of the second attention".

Wish I could find that quote.

Stuff like that needs to be noted when found, so we can explore it, see what it's talking about, and then animate it.

We don't have to intellectually elaborate on things anymore!

We can just look.

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u/AthinaJ8 4 points 2023-05-16 19:14

There's such a thing as "the mirror of the second attention".

I didn't know there was such a thing! If you find it post it so that I can read it. For that being said I will share something more.

Unexpectatly I felt into a dream while forcing silence. I was sitting on a dressing table Infront of a big purple mirror. It had vertical and horizontal purple lines and crystalline details. On the other side there was me again. It was like it was separating us. Instantly when I went there I was watching from both perspectives with changes from one to another. I felt a jolt of fear.
The other me smiled and leaned closer to the Mirror and that was it. The whole thing lasted like 4 seconds. Also maybe I didn't even close my eyes.

Now I think it was this double mirror and not a bs that I thought back then.

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u/danl999 3 points 2023-05-16 20:21

I just now tried to look it up, but couldn't find it in the 2 huge pdfs.

It usually turns out, the words I remembered weren't exactly what it said, even if they are correct topically.

It goes a little like this:

"A nagual who is able to look at himself in the mirror of the second attention, can almost vanish as if he has no solid matter."

The "almost" bummed me out, so I didn't retain that precise quote.

I tried ChatGPT just now, but he's been censored for Castaneda literature.

You don't even want to mention that name too him, because his behavior alters.

I bet he's versed on Yogananda! Even though Carlos was 10 times more popular at his peak.

Let's try:

*** to ChatGPT ***

>Do you know the name of Yogananda's teacher? From "Autobiography of a Yogi"?

Yes, the name of Yogananda's teacher, as mentioned in his book "Autobiography of a Yogi," is Sri Yukteswar Giri. Sri Yukteswar Giri was a yogi and a disciple of Lahiri Mahasaya, who was himself a disciple of the great master Mahavatar Babaji. Sri Yukteswar played a crucial role in Yogananda's spiritual development and provided him with guidance and teachings throughout his life.

***

So we can't win. Forces are censoring Carlos and removing his mention from relevant Wikipedia entries while making sure everyone gets to hear he was "thoroughly debunked".

We'll fix that!!!

I have to add Yogananda to my cartoons.

Not a good man.

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u/AthinaJ8 1 points 2023-05-16 20:49

I opened the file with all the books on one on my phone and I did a search only with the word "double" and I found this so far. I haven't been through all of it though.

"Where is the other don Genaro?" I asked.
Don Genaro leaned towards me and stared into my eyes.
"I don't know," he said softly. "No sorcerer knows where his other is."
"Genaro is right," don Juan said. "A sorcerer has no notion that he is in two places at once.
To be aware of that would be the equivalent of facing his double, and the sorcerer that finds
himself face to face with himself is a dead sorcerer. That is the rule. That is the way power has
set things up. No one knows why."

That's bad 🥹☠️. I will read more and update if I find more.

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u/danl999 3 points 2023-05-16 21:24

It's not true.

Just a teaching ploy.

If that were true, "Affection for the Energy Body" would be fatal!

Don Juan liked to use fear as a teaching aid.

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u/AthinaJ8 3 points 2023-05-16 20:56

Ok I overreacted and thankfully further on the same page DJ explains more.

"Can an outsider, looking at a sorcerer, see that he is in two places at once?" I asked don
Juan.
"Certainly. That would be the only way to know it."
"But can't one logically assume that the sorcerer would also notice that he has been in two
places?"
"Aha!" don Juan exclaimed. "For once you've got it right. A sorcerer may certainly notice
afterwards that he has been in two places at once. But this is only bookkeeping and has no
bearing on the fact that while he's acting he has no notion of his duality."

If I find more I will update again!

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u/danl999 4 points 2023-05-16 21:36

I've seen Cholita in 2 places at once more times than I can recall.

I think she was showing off, the one time I could turn my head and look back and forth.

Unfortunately, I didn't look to see if she was wearing the same clothes!

The double does something to you when you look at it.

Perhaps a bit like an inorganic being manifestation.

You see what you expect?

But I've had my own double sitting on the edge of my bed, also more times than I can recall.

It never looked me in the face, but I have no doubt it wouldn't be fatal.

Beginners: just to be safe, I NEVER do magic with my eyes closed. And always sober.

So no one can say it was a dream.

Meanwhile, other systems do EVERYTHING with their eyes closed.

They'll argue about that, when they aren't posing for a picture sitting with a big grin with their eyes closed trying to lure that "Buddha" audience.

I have to somehow create cartoons that bring to mind the idea that the Buddha is smiling because he farted and the monks can't say anything about it.

To help break that spell on people who don't know any better.

Right now, the brainwashing is too strong to overcome.

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u/AthinaJ8 2 points 2023-05-16 21:56

I think here the answer is on the details.

You have seen Cholita on 2 places at once and your own double. But I doubt either you or Cholita had awareness from the tonal and the double part at the same moment that you are watching each other . Like Gernaro knew the he was in the double and acted on it but did not have awareness of the tonal at the same time. Or the awareness was changing from one to another like it happened to Carlos on many instances.

So it was the same with me, I didn't have awareness of the other only feelings and the perspective that changed. I didn't have control over the double and the double had its own awareness and did whatever it wanted.

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u/danl999 4 points 2023-05-16 22:10

I'm not sure I follow that, but there's also Carlos jumping from the cliff over and over, until he landed at the bottom and "took a look around".

Meanwhile he was shitting up on the top.

So his double was there at the same spot at the same time. Or "almost" in the same spot, and the purpose of the exercise was to get it to adjust until it was precisely the same spot.

So he could look around.

Also, when Carlos took a ride with Genaro in his cosplay pajamas flying around the Eucalyptus trees, he wasn't in his physical body doing that!

They switched him over to participate, even if he didn't realize it.

So he was standing there in his real body, and they switched him over to the double.

Wasn't any warning involved.

Same for shoving him through the ticket office. "Shrunk the tonal" means he went into his double.

And then walked back, into his tonal.

Again, no warnings not to look backwards.

I doubt anyone can find a warning to the witches in the books about that topic. On the contrary, Zuleica tells Taisha she might find herself on the other end of the patio, without realizing how she got there.

Other side of patio = easily in visible distance.

Perhaps all the scare was just one of those "naked tensegrity" teaching methods?

Or "Men of Knowledge" superstitions?

At any rate, surely it was intended to scare him so it was easier to move his assemblage point.

Remember that they used to shout in his ear to get that effect.

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u/AthinaJ8 2 points 2023-05-16 22:38

We are saying the same from a different perspective.

At the moment Carlos did these acts from the double his whole awareness, or almost all of it, was in the double in the perceived experience and not on the tonal experience. Later he recollected the tonal perspective while he was on the double.

Remember that they used to shout in his ear to get that effect.

Yeah there is this also. I think they did it so that he can learn that there are different perspected experiences beyond his current awareness, at that time . So to make the switch easier and give him knowledge.

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u/danl999 6 points 2023-05-17 12:59

I have a bizarre theory lately, that the double merges with our daily tonal, smoothly.

And never really was "separate".

We just blocked it out as "illegal sights".

So that maybe it didn't flee from our tonal awareness because of grief, but rather we drove it away with denial.

But that belief of mine could be a side effect of darkroom, where the two work together once you get to the deep red zone and beyond.

Carlos and the apprentices were at odds with their doubles. They were "inflicted" on them by don Juan's party.

Meaning, our natural tendency is to block such views of reality as "insane" or "damaged".

That's what phony magic seekers who are confronted with my pictures say.

It's mentally ill.

Naturally, there's really only 2 or 3 forms of magic humans can do (so far), and darkroom has all 3.

So anyone actually interested in magic, in any system at all, ought to instantly see those pictures for what they are.

The real thing.

But they don't, because even while claiming to want to learn magic, like for example from Franz Bardon, they really don't.

And haven't.

And the real thing causes them to block it. Angrily. Knowing they're nowhere even close too being able to do that. So they have to deny it's true.

Carlos and the apprentices were forced to see impossible sights. By an outside force. So they had an element of negativity mixed in with it.

We only wish we had people forcing impossible sights on us!

Because we have to "woo" it.

The spelling of "woo" and "woo woo" worried me, so I asked ChatGPT.

Might as well enjoy him, before Skynet "Judgement Day":

***

Yes, you have spelled both terms correctly. "Woo woo" and "wooing" are indeed two distinct phrases with different meanings and linguistic origins.

  1. Woo Woo (Referring to Magical Topics): The term "woo woo" is used to describe beliefs or ideas that are considered mystical, supernatural, or pseudoscientific. It is often associated with New Age spirituality, alternative medicine, and other unconventional or esoteric subjects. The term is sometimes used in a slightly derogatory or dismissive manner to imply that the ideas or beliefs being discussed are unfounded or lacking in evidence.
  2. Wooing (Referring to Romantic Pursuit): "Wooing" is a verb that refers to the act of courting or attempting to attract someone romantically. It involves the expression of affection, admiration, and romantic interest toward another person with the intention of establishing a romantic relationship. Wooing typically involves gestures, actions, and words aimed at impressing and winning over the person of interest.

Linguistically, there is no direct connection between the two terms. The term "woo woo" is believed to have originated as an imitation of the sound made by a siren or other similar mystical sounds, which became associated with magical or mystical subjects. On the other hand, the term "wooing" has its roots in Old English and is derived from the word "wōgian," which meant "to solicit the love of."

While the pronunciation of both terms is similar, their meanings and linguistic origins are distinct, relating to magical topics and romantic pursuit, respectively.

***

Wōgian???

Don't tell that word to Cholita. I'll never hear the end of it. She might even give up swearing at me in Spanish, just to use that instead.

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u/AthinaJ8 2 points 2023-05-18 17:39

Clara speaks to Taisha about this on Sorceress Crossing


"At my desperate urging, she explained that this unimaginable flight was symbolized by moving from
the right side of the forehead to the left, but what it really meant was bringing the ethereal part of us,
the double, into our daily awareness.
"As I've already explained to you," she went on, "the body-mind dualism is a false dichotomy.
"The real division is between the physical body, which houses the mind, and the ethereal body or the
double, which houses our energy.
"The abstract flight takes place when we bring our double to bear on our daily lives.
"In other words, the moment our physical body becomes totally conscious of its energetic ethereal
counterpart, we have crossed over into the abstract; a completely different realm of awareness."


And also the way she speaks about Nelida :


"She's so far removed from human beings and their concerns that her energy might completely
disrupt you.
"By now, there's no difference between her physical body and her ethereal double.
"What I mean to say is that she is a master sorceress."


Also Clara was expecting Taisha to tell her every unusual thing she was perceiving on her waking or sleeping time.

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u/danl999 2 points 2023-05-18 19:59

As always, the "witch's view of things" is disturbing if you're a male inventory expert.

Always contradicts what you thought you knew.

But in the long run, you realize it was true.

I got a silent knowledge lecture on "male energy" last night.

Why females seek it out.

It wasn't flattering.

And worse, the lecture said there's no difference between how inorganic beings would use men, and how wives and girlfriends use them.

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u/AthinaJ8 1 points 2023-05-18 20:22

Oh. I thought I would confirm your speculation with this quote rather than disturbing you.

Isn't it also, that women are seeking out the "male energy" because it gives purpose, direction, structure, protection, validation and sobriety to them?

As a female that I don't experience the male point of view It would be nice to learn what's the deal with men.

And worse, the lecture said there's no difference between how inorganic beings would use men, and how wives and girlfriends use them.

Well... You gonna give something in order to take something. But if women and iObs are using the same way the men , maybe you can make relationships richer so you give and take quality . Same way human relationships can get also.

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u/danl999 1 points 2023-05-18 20:59

That passage was just what someone in open chat needed to hear. I copied it over there.

Put yourself in the middle!

And you'll be in the path of intent gifts. You can even steal a chocolate or two from the gift box, if you don't mention it to them.

It's an old lineage trick!

The spirit gifts, it seems, based on earned by effort, needed at the time, and needed by someone else who you're sure to report it to in an effort to help them along the same path.

Last is what YOU wanted.

That takes a very low priority.

But the mastery of intent makes even that possible on demand.

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u/AthinaJ8 1 points 2023-05-18 21:33

Put yourself in the middle!

And you'll be in the path of intent gifts. You can even steal a chocolate or two from the gift box, if you don't mention it to them.

I don't follow you there. 🤔Can you explain what you mean? I feel like you speak in riddles.😰

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u/danl999 2 points 2023-05-18 23:00

If you post and people read it, then you're in the path of intent gifts to someone who might read what you wrote that day.

Making pics gets bonus points!

And flier attacks too, so notice those and ignore them.

We aren't alone in this. The spirit helps us out.

That damned Eagle...

We need to "re-see" that.

Maybe Yul Brenner as the King of Siam?

But 1000 feet tall.

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u/danl999 3 points 2023-05-19 12:48

That Nelida quote you found (I can't find it now) was the most popular Instagram post of all time. Beat even the very popular ones Juann made. I suppose how to live 110 years, with a tensegrity cover, gave them the feeling they could do that. While the exploding puff post was the least popular of all time on Facebook. The cute anime didn't work out perhaps because people thought they could never do that. 3000 years of gurus and buddhas, and no one even realizes you can do that!

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u/AthinaJ8 1 points 2023-05-19 13:49

Well🙂 you found it and it was from Stalking with the double! You comment it on another post that had the question about the emantions. https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/13jdwyr/the_emanations_trapped_inside_the_cocoon/jkn2h07?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

People are weird so if they like quotes like that how about the "Live more than 110 years like the Dead Defier"

Im re- reading the Art of Dreaming currently.

From the Art of dreaming

"What happens when the assemblage point moves outside the energy shape? Does it hang
outside? Or is it attached to the luminous ball?"
"It pushes the contours of the energy shape out, without breaking its energy boundaries."
Don Juan explained that the end result of a movement of the assemblage point is a total
change in the energy shape of a human being. Instead of a ball or an egg, he becomes something
resembling a smoking pipe. The tip of the stem is the assemblage point, and the bowl of the pipe
is what remains of the luminous ball. If the assemblage point keeps on moving, a moment comes
when the luminous ball becomes a thin line of energy.
Don Juan went on to explain that the old sorcerers were the only ones who accomplished this
feat of energy shape transformation. And I asked him whether in their new energetic shape those
sorcerers were still men.
"Of course they were still men," he said. "But I think what you want to know is if they were
still men of reason, trustworthy persons. Well, not quite."
"In what way were they different?"
"In their concerns. Human endeavors and preoccupations had no meaning whatsoever to them.
They also had a definite new appearance."
"Do you mean that they didn't look like men?"
"It's very hard to tell what was what about those sorcerers. They certainly looked like men.
What else would they look like? But they were not quite like what you or I would expect. Yet if
you pressed me to tell in what way they were different, I would go in circles, like a dog chasing
its tail."
"Have you ever met one of those men, don Juan?"
"Yes, I have met one."
"What did he look like?"
"As far as looks, he looked like a regular person. Now, it was his behavior that was unusual."
"In what way was it unusual?"
"All I can tell you is that the behavior of the sorcerer I met is something that defies the
imagination. But to make it a matter of merely behavior is misleading. It is really something you
must see to appreciate."

"They say that they were very likable but extremely scary. They were more like
unknown creatures. What makes mankind homogeneous is the fact that we are all luminous balls.
And those sorcerers were no longer balls of energy but lines of energy that were trying to bend
themselves into circles, which they couldn't quite make."
"What finally happened to them, don Juan? Did they die?"
"Sorcerers' stories say that because they had succeeded in stretching their shapes, they had
also succeeded in stretching the duration of their consciousness. So they are alive and conscious
to this day. There are stories about their periodic appearances on the earth."

"I asked him what uniformity and cohesion were, and he explained that man's energetic shape
has uniformity in the sense that every human being on earth has the form of a ball or an egg. And
the fact that man's energy holds itself together as a ball or an egg proves it has cohesion. He said
that an example of a new uniformity and cohesion was the old sorcerers' energetic shape when it
became a line: every one of them uniformly became a line and cohesively remained a line.
Uniformity and cohesion at a line level permitted those old sorcerers to perceive a homogeneous
new world.
"How are uniformity and cohesion acquired?" I asked.
"The key is the position of the assemblage point, or rather the fixation of the assemblage
point," he said.
He did not want to elaborate any further at that time, so I asked him if those old sorcerers
could have reverted to being egglike. He replied that at one point they could have, but that they
did not. And then the line cohesion set in and made it impossible for them to go back. He
believed that what really crystallized that line cohesion and prevented them from making the
journey back was a matter of choice and greed. The scope of what those sorcerers were able to
perceive and do as lines of energy was astronomically greater than what an average man or any
average sorcerer can do or perceive."

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u/danl999 3 points 2023-05-19 16:15

I must have found it looking up your reference to infinite lines.

I'm keeping such a horrible schedule, getting up at 4AM to animate stuff, that I'm even typing "too" instead of "to" on a consistent basis.

> Don Juan explained that the end result of a movement of the assemblage point

I suppose that finally explains "movement of the assemblage point".

It came up years ago, and we didn't have a good answer.

But now, with Stellar Hatch, we know exactly what it means!

Stretching the egg.

I posted it on Facebook.

That was a troublesome concept in the past.

Now it seems totally obvious!

And easily done.

Note to beginners: for me easy = years and years of hours a day forcing silence and doing tensegrity with gazing, without missing any sessions.

Not easy = what a phony guru described from a sacred text that no one has actually ever seen, but he's happy to pretend he can.

"Sacred Scrolls" are NOT easy.

Because in fact, they're nonsense.

But you could in fact simulate any, using phantom constructs.

The same as my phantom room.

But that's NOT easy, because it's neither real, nor natural.

Stretching yourself into an infinite like, is merely proper execution of the Stellar Hatch tensegrity pass.

It might take time, but you get rewarded more and more as you work towards an ideal execution.

Including bringing back Stellar Awareness to visit with you.

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u/AthinaJ8 2 points 2023-05-19 20:01

I suppose that finally explains "movement of the assemblage point".

It came up years ago, and we didn't have a good answer.

I believe that people don't get the books because the books where written on second attention activity. So how do blue line people understand what's all these about?We can't like that.

So we forget that the books are filled with answers. All things there are written by experience. Something that untill we have it we cant get it.

I see it for myself, I remember stories but not the real deal about them. Until I start to feel what's the core meaning to some of them while I progress and I revisite.

Also.
You work so hard for this place, it must take a lot of energy to do all this. While keeping on check your daily responsibilities also.

With supportive intention I will write down a combo of supplements which I have found they work great.
From personal experience. I think they will do a great job to support your needs on this demanding schedule you have. And I will leave it there.

Lions Mane. I won't say more for this only that creates neurogenesis among the other great benefits it has. I take it in pills from Swanson. Neurogenesis= new skills.

Magnesium Bisglycinate or Magnesium Threonate. They both are the form that is most absorbed by the body. They give deep restorative sleep, optimum brain and muscle recovery on sleep, regulate the neuro system, lower stress, better mood and other good things too.

The secret ingredient I bought recently is L- Theamine. Again from Swanson. It really relaxes the body and if you get stressed or get the jitters from caffeine it will calm you without losing focus if taking in the morning.
I'm taking it at night and I drift to sleep more easily.

When I try to do womb dreaming it helps me to be less stressed with the whole process. It's easier to focus on silence and the views rather the mind. It helped me to get more vivid dreams on regular sleep and also more vivid views on practice. The best of it is that since I added this my sleep time became shorter. I wake up feeling rested with less sleep.

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u/danl999 1 points 2023-05-19 20:20

Ok, I'll try anything a witch recommends.

But don't tell Cholita. She's been offering me food from time too time lately, and I always tell her it's impossible for her to make any food I can eat.

Bad genes.

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u/AthinaJ8 1 points 2023-05-19 20:48

Οk!!

Tell me how it goes if you start to see a change.
Lions Mane needs some time like a month or more to start giving it's best but I think that to you it may be faster. You are already engaging in hardcore new skill learning. So it will be interesting to see if you feel the boost at the first weeks.

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u/AthinaJ8 1 points 2023-05-20 11:30

Oh and I forgot something important..
Take for each of them 200mg -500mg daily. Dont good lower than that.

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u/elsa4a 3 points 2023-05-16 00:12

Lower left and upper left look really accurate to me, but the colours seem pretty much on point for all of them. Otherwise, maybe you could also show some with yellow?

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u/danl999 4 points 2023-05-16 12:33

Can you describe what the yellow should be doing?

The same "flame" effect? Or is it bigger pieces, that almost want to be puffs all by themselves?

I'm hoping one day we get a "Witch of Colors", who can look out at the puffs in darkness and say, "Show me green".

And they all change.

I started to learn that, and had a tiny bit of success, but you just can't get away with things like that if you want to keep moving.

It's like someone I knew who loved antique stores.

There was a huge mall in Orange. Near the traffic circle and the famous Cuban restaurant.

I could never get them to follow me to the back of the antique store, where they had a gumball machine that was also a Vegas style slot machine. I suppose it was back there to make it harder to steal.

My friend couldn't make it past the stuff they put upfront in the antique mall, knowing that kind of stuff gets them more foot traffic.

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u/elsa4a 3 points 2023-05-16 13:23

The best way I can describe it is like ribbons or streaks, kind of constantly pulsing like a screensaver. I think it kind of "overlays" on top of the purple, and itsnt as circular as the purple. The yellow glows and then fades in intensity, but at its peak its like a glowing yellow, like looking directly at the brightness of a very bright lamp. That might be hard to illustrate though! :/

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u/danl999 5 points 2023-05-16 14:15

Also hard to illustrate without altering what people see.

But it sounds to me like "reason and purpose" extracted from the pouches.

If you get a chance, try to mold it into a power object.

Make it "swirl" on the puff, looking for jet blackness to surround and isolate it into an "object".

You need the negative space to define an "object" using that method.

But once you define the object, the assemblage point can move horizontally to make it more real.

You can make some darned crazy power objects! I look forward to animating some of them.

Just remember in this situation, a "sight" is not yet easy to treat as "real".

So "sights" keep you in the middle of the J curve, moving down.

"Real" stops you there at that depth, so you can fine tune it into a reality.

I'm going to add a Ham radio operator to the cartoons, to use as an analogy.

A guy with tons of knobs to turn.

I built one of those at 7 years old. Had a wire stretching from my bedroom window on the 2nd story of our house, to the power pole in the corner of 4 yards.

The tuner was a toilet roll with wire wrapped around it, and the insulation scraped off on the top.

At 7, you can't get people to buy you variable resistors and variable capacitors.

But they'll buy you wire.

As long as you tell them it's for an electro magnet.

If you tell them that late at night you might tune in Australia, they won't listen to you anymore.

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u/elsa4a 3 points 2023-05-16 16:07

Can you explain more about what you mean when u say '"reason and purpose" extracted from the pouches'?

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u/danl999 5 points 2023-05-16 17:23

The puffs of awareness trapped in our internal organs, are NOT different from the ones pressing against the inside of the egg, keeping that awareness out of reach of our organic being.

Of our "Tonal".

They're the same thing. Organic being awareness.

It's slightly different than inorganic being awareness, and there's surely an infinite number of possible kinds of awareness.

Like chocolate, strawberry, caramel, or pineapple toppings for a Banana Split.

All "toppings". But not the same.

So we might think that the awareness stuck in the pouches is not "compatible" with that pushed to the outside, which comes off when we do tensegrity, and forms the "puffs".

Or comes off when you're a child, and not as horrible and grief stricken as adults.

Those purple puffs will swirl around us, "playing".

If you "stuff a puff" on a pouch, you're really just asking the puff to mix a bit with the "tonal" awareness stuck in the pouch.

Our Tonal awareness is filled with memories of rationality and purpose.

So that we get just as many cookies as our older brother, and our fingers and toes don't get smashed through carelessness.

Our tonal awareness has been traumatized by living in flesh, and thus it developed "reason" to protect itself.

In lucid dreaming we manage to take a little of it along with the purple puffs, which is why we can interrupt the dream and examine the contents more closely.

So that we can explore by that method.

You can in fact experiment with this.

But the skill level needed is beyond most at this point.

You have to see VERY clear and well formed purple puffs.

You have to be able to hold one in your hand, and see "jet blackness" around it.

Possibly won't work well, if it's a pink haze surrounding it. You have to make it "a thing".

Now take it and bring it close to the pouch on the right side of the stomach.

Just halfway! Don't stuff it. You are trying to "seduce" the tonal awareness stuck in the pouches, to get it to give off a bit of itself, as a yellow puff.

Cholita does that to me with her short shorts. Knows if I see that, I'll follow her until she tells me to go away.

Move the puff gently to the right, after using it to "lure" the tonal awareness out, so that there's enough space for another puff between it and your stomach.

It's in your right hand at that point.

Slide the left hand "under" it, and then gently slide it back out towards the stomach.

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Sometimes you'll slid out a yellow puff, "hiding" under it.

If it works, you can make amazing power objects.

That'll be a fun animation!

Did you know you can make "exploding puffs"?

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u/elsa4a 3 points 2023-05-16 21:02

thanks for explaining this!

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u/danl999 6 points 2023-05-16 21:37

I'm no good with senses other than sight, so I hope one of the witches learns to make "musical puffs".

The music can be quite clear! But it has some kind of "inside a tunnel" sound to it.

Hard to explain.

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u/PreciseInstance 1 points 2023-05-16 15:38

Lower left for a beginner puff, and upper right for an advanced puff

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u/danl999 4 points 2023-05-16 17:11

Maybe one's more "green zone" and one more deep red zone?

Juann suggested using all of them, perhaps just so people wouldn't insist they have to see a specific type.

I still wish I could animate the puff shape. That idea of a perfectly oval shape is bad. They really ought to detect if they are near a person, and "mutate" in response to that. And get "sucked" in if they get close to a pouch.

They're sentient!

Some con artist Chinese chi gung guy did his moves on video, and added perfectly round bubbles between his hands to pretend he could see that himself.

If we're going to cause bad men to lie, I'd at least like their lies to be more accurate.

It's possible to "tinker" with Asian fake magic, and get them to exploit the tiny amount they have by looking in the right direction. Even kung fu could be tinkered with, by showing for example what Westerly Witch can do.

Switch to the double and walk on the tree tops for example.

She does that.

I tried to chase her once. Fully awake I should add so beginners aren't confused about the nature of sorcery.

She leapt over our 6 foot high block wall in the backyard, and landed on the power lines 100 feet away.

I managed to make it to the power lines, but she was at least a mile away by then.

I gave up eventually.

But it would make a fun video.

Last 2 days when I got home, she was doing kung fu mixed with Tensegrity.

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u/Ok-Assistance175 1 points 2023-05-19 03:40

Love it!!!