>The death defier tells Carlos to point his pinky at the Phantom worlds object to see if they are part of a energy generating world. Carlos tells her (the defier) that Don Juan told him to ask out loud if they where energy generating
I never got to read that, due to the book ban.
Where is that? A book, a lecture, or a publication?
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u/PreciseInstance
2 points2023-06-13 15:57
Here is the passage. it is page 1286 in the all in one pdf
"She herself had said it was a dream. I wanted to watch everything, to be
superalert. I wanted to test everything by seeing energy. I felt embarrassed, but the woman
tightened her grip on my hand as if to signal me that she agreed with me.
Still feeling absurdly bashful, I automatically stated out loud my intent to see. In my dreaming
practices, I had been using all along the phrase "I want to see energy." Sometimes, I had to say it
over and over until I got results. This time, in the woman's dream town, as I began to repeat it in
my usual manner, the woman began to laugh. Her laughter was like don Juan's: a deep,
abandoned belly laugh.
"What's so funny?" I asked, somehow contaminated by her mirth.
"Juan Matus doesn't like the old sorcerers in general and me in particular," the woman said
between fits of laughter. "All we have to do, in order to see in our dreams, is to point with our
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little finger at the item we want to see. To make you yell in my dream is his way to send me his
message. You have to admit that he's really clever." She paused for a moment, then said in the
tone of a revelation, "Of course, to yell like an asshole works too."
The sorcerers' sense of humor bewildered me beyond measure. She laughed so hard she
seemed to be unable to proceed with our walk. I felt stupid. When she calmed down and was
perfectly poised again, she politely told me that I could point at anything I wanted in her dream,
including herself."
Here are another passage you might be interested in:
He took himself as an example. He said that the death defier's gift of power to him had been
the position of the assemblage point of a crow and the procedures to manipulate his energy body
to get the total perception of a crow. Don Juan explained that total perception, total cohesion was
what the old sorcerers sought at any cost, and that, in the case of his own gift of power, total
perception came to him by means of a deliberate process he had to learn, step by step, as one
learns to work a very complex machine.
Don Juan further explained that most of the shifts modern-day sorcerers experience are mild
shifts within a thin bundle of energetic luminous filaments inside the luminous egg, a bundle
called the band of man, or the purely human aspect of the universe's energy. Beyond that band,
but still within the luminous egg, lies the realm of the grand shifts. When the assemblage point
shifts to any spot on that area, perception is still comprehensible to us, but extremely detailed
procedures are required for perception to be total.
"The inorganic beings tricked you and Carol Tiggs in your last journey by helping you two to
get total cohesion on a grand shift," don Juan said. "They displaced your assemblage points to the
farthest possible spot, then helped you perceive there as if you were in your daily world. A nearly
impossible thing. To do that type of perceiving a sorcerer needs pragmatic knowledge, or
influential friends.
"Your friends would have betrayed you in the end and left you and Carol to fend for
yourselves and learn pragmatic measures in order to survive in that world. You two would have
ended filled to the brim with pragmatic procedures, just like those most knowledgeable old
sorcerers.
This Passage is Around page 1277 all in one pdf.
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u/danl999
2 points2023-06-13 16:45
Fascinating stuff.
You can move off man's band, and still perceive the world.
I wish it explained how far.
Don Juan did say you can move the assemblage point anywhere along the outside of the egg.
I presumed it resulted in slumber, so that it wasn't useful to move to "exotic" locations.
Maybe we need Julian more than we know.
He's the only sorcerer we know for sure, is in fact available to us.
Unless we want to count Cholita's old witch friend.
Who might just be some weird copy of Cholita herself.
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>The death defier tells Carlos to point his pinky at the Phantom worlds object to see if they are part of a energy generating world. Carlos tells her (the defier) that Don Juan told him to ask out loud if they where energy generating
I never got to read that, due to the book ban.
Where is that? A book, a lecture, or a publication?
Here is the passage. it is page 1286 in the all in one pdf
"She herself had said it was a dream. I wanted to watch everything, to be
superalert. I wanted to test everything by seeing energy. I felt embarrassed, but the woman
tightened her grip on my hand as if to signal me that she agreed with me.
Still feeling absurdly bashful, I automatically stated out loud my intent to see. In my dreaming
practices, I had been using all along the phrase "I want to see energy." Sometimes, I had to say it
over and over until I got results. This time, in the woman's dream town, as I began to repeat it in
my usual manner, the woman began to laugh. Her laughter was like don Juan's: a deep,
abandoned belly laugh.
"What's so funny?" I asked, somehow contaminated by her mirth.
"Juan Matus doesn't like the old sorcerers in general and me in particular," the woman said
between fits of laughter. "All we have to do, in order to see in our dreams, is to point with our
124
little finger at the item we want to see. To make you yell in my dream is his way to send me his
message. You have to admit that he's really clever." She paused for a moment, then said in the
tone of a revelation, "Of course, to yell like an asshole works too."
The sorcerers' sense of humor bewildered me beyond measure. She laughed so hard she
seemed to be unable to proceed with our walk. I felt stupid. When she calmed down and was
perfectly poised again, she politely told me that I could point at anything I wanted in her dream,
including herself."
Here are another passage you might be interested in:
He took himself as an example. He said that the death defier's gift of power to him had been
the position of the assemblage point of a crow and the procedures to manipulate his energy body
to get the total perception of a crow. Don Juan explained that total perception, total cohesion was
what the old sorcerers sought at any cost, and that, in the case of his own gift of power, total
perception came to him by means of a deliberate process he had to learn, step by step, as one
learns to work a very complex machine.
Don Juan further explained that most of the shifts modern-day sorcerers experience are mild
shifts within a thin bundle of energetic luminous filaments inside the luminous egg, a bundle
called the band of man, or the purely human aspect of the universe's energy. Beyond that band,
but still within the luminous egg, lies the realm of the grand shifts. When the assemblage point
shifts to any spot on that area, perception is still comprehensible to us, but extremely detailed
procedures are required for perception to be total.
"The inorganic beings tricked you and Carol Tiggs in your last journey by helping you two to
get total cohesion on a grand shift," don Juan said. "They displaced your assemblage points to the
farthest possible spot, then helped you perceive there as if you were in your daily world. A nearly
impossible thing. To do that type of perceiving a sorcerer needs pragmatic knowledge, or
influential friends.
"Your friends would have betrayed you in the end and left you and Carol to fend for
yourselves and learn pragmatic measures in order to survive in that world. You two would have
ended filled to the brim with pragmatic procedures, just like those most knowledgeable old
sorcerers.
This Passage is Around page 1277 all in one pdf.
Fascinating stuff.
You can move off man's band, and still perceive the world.
I wish it explained how far.
Don Juan did say you can move the assemblage point anywhere along the outside of the egg.
I presumed it resulted in slumber, so that it wasn't useful to move to "exotic" locations.
Maybe we need Julian more than we know.
He's the only sorcerer we know for sure, is in fact available to us.
Unless we want to count Cholita's old witch friend.
Who might just be some weird copy of Cholita herself.