Gazing in the daylight using objects or scenes works great as tonal is overfilled with details and its easier to get silent (walks of power as well), but the problem is that it's not dark enough to see all energy around you. (especially if you are a beginner like me). So interesting thing I noticed during long hours in DR is that gazing in pitch dark is really hard as white color play, puffs, and other staff always disrupt from staring at one point, as well as you don't really have one point to grab your tonal attention to in the pitch dark. Today tho I was lucky to have a little light opening where light could sip through my dark room curtain, it was small and I used it to focus all my tonal attention to try to ignore all the light dances and puffs. The result was that the light started getting further and further away till it felt like it was miles away from me and I am not even in the room anymore. The puffs got more aggressive in movement (didn't get brighter tho). Unfortunately, I couldn't keep up for long (lasted only 10 mins max) as the light was coming from the bottom of the door and made my neck hurt so I had to stop the whole practice session as it became super uncomfortable.
I guess my question is this, is it worth improvising and maybe taping a little laser point in the darkroom to have a bright red dot to focus on? Or setting little super dim light? Or are there already known tricks on how to focus on 1 spot in the pitch dark and not pay attention to the magic till your AP is deep enough? Thank you for your answers in advance
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I don't know much about it but there is something like you describe called Candle Gazing...
Yeah, the only issue with it as it produces light and the room is not dark anymore
You dont need to gaze at one point.
You can do tensegrity in the dark, force silence and when a puff appears stuff it on your pouches. Also you can gaze on it.
Total darkness works better because you don't have external stimuli to distract you. So it's easier to see puffs and interact with them. You need to interact with the puffs.
Is this why I haven't had success in the dark room? I'm so distracted with the little distortions. They spiral around and I love watching them. I will also circle my eyes counter clockwise or sweep side to side. If I need to keep my eyes focused on a pinpoint spot then I've been doing this ALL wrong!
I've been daytime and evening gazing so much that it's become my bedtime routine. I will sit out at dusk and gaze at my porch plants for an hour at least. It's very satisfying, but I'm not seeing anything when I do Darkroom.
Darkroom looks for the energy body pieces. The double.
What this poster is doing is NOT darkroom.
At least not as he describes it.
It seems more like he's ditched the rules, and is "looking for his greatness" by trying to skip steps and try more advanced things he's read about.
It's not a good sign for his possibility to actually learn.
Gazing is one thing.
But "Darkroom" requires the tensegrity, done in as perfect of silence as you can manage, in order to lure the double to come out so it will drift near to you as the puffs.
The puffs are alive and sentient, but they find us repulsive and have fled away from our waking awareness, which is trapped in our internal organs.
In those 3 "pouches".
We try to lure the puffs to come out, then try to place them on the pouches so that the waking awareness "mixes" with them.
It's a very specific path.
No tensegrity, no darkroom.
However, there is also "gazing". And it's a very fast path.
But is done in full light, gazing at complex patterns like piles of leaves, or shadows between ferns.
Never make the ugliest beginner's mistake!
"Looking for your greatness".
It's death to ever succeeding.
But women can in fact do all sorts of amazing things with gazing.
I just can't give any advice on it.
Cholita could, but she won't talk.
She just emailed me and said she lost her Tensegrity book, and could I get her one.
Of course, I have one right here. I'll bring it home.
But then there's the issue of, what does she want it for?
Might be she needs something that belonged to me, for some curse she's working on.
At least I hope so!
I have been gazing a LOT. I will sit and look at my plants for hours, but they are alive. Does that make a difference vs looking at dead leaves? I have my little collection of leaves but I haven't done that as much.
I've been doing the passes in the evening after gazing for some time. It will be dark out but everything is alive to me. The birds and insects all singing and doing their thing is just candy for my ears. I will gaze at points of light and cross my eyes and shift my focus from the right to the left. The light will explode into a snowflake kaleidoscope and I will focus on the dark parts in that light.
After I've done this for while I stand up and start doing the passes I remember. I've been gradually working my way through a few series but haven't mastered them fully. It really has been a hodgepodge of movements as they come to my brain. Does it make a significant difference to do them randomly vs in the order they are presented?
The new Westwood Recap series was so great. I took to that immediately and have 98% locked in. I will find myself doing different parts of it randomly during the day. Now that I think of it, there are a whole bunch of passes and movements that have become super normal to me.
My biggest problem is when I have enough in me to actually do Darkroom, I don't have enough in me to stand up and to the passes. My body's strength has given out. Are there passes I can do sitting and laying down?
We are males, so we are paying the price of dominating the society. Seems like there is no workaround but work your sweat off doing passes, trust me I tried a lot of creative ways, but never got to see that much magic
Sure, running man can be done laying down.
And any passes can be done sitting in a chair, as long as the feet aren't the main thing.
Scooping puffs onto the pouches can be done in a chair, and that convinces the energy body to form around you on demand.
I used to do the sitting kind of tensegrity because I'd already done the standing kind, and needed to move around a tiny bit, to play with the magic I was seeing as a result. When I sat up on pillows after the tensegrity.
Inactivity is different from activity, during darkroom.
It's important to use the activity to move the assemblage point, but then also have some inactivity so you can finely shift the assemblage point at the destination you can reach.
So just modify the movements as you like!
But keep in mind this important thing.
All of reality is just a bundle of emanations.
There's an infinite number of possible bundles.
You can even "find" a bundle for a past event, and relive it by simply moving your assemblage point to that position.
Not imagining or visualizing it!
NEVER do that.
You literally find yourself inside the event. And it's fully visible.
And often you have your body still.
The tensegrity should be done as part of a regular "ritual", so that intent can begin to store into it.
That's what the "men of Knowledge" did. They created rituals, into which the intent of the magical outcome got stored.
As Florinda said, Buddhist chanting seems to work (extremely poorly) for some people, just because they "intended it" to.
Meaning they fell for it hook line and sinker, and started looking for "magic" to happen.
You NEED to look for the magic, so that intent can start to fine tune, and add more and more magic each day.
If you've done a lot of gazing, and had done it perfectly from the start, you ought to be entering into dream portals by now, using the gazing.
Literally materializing a "tunnel" or a window, and zipping fully into a dream.
If not, you didn't understand how gazing works.
But for women, who knows?
I'd just expect that if you did a LOT of gazing, you'd already be navigating around in waking dreams and doing "reruns" and visits to your cyclic being world.
Or to the inorganic being's realm.
So if that didn't happen, it's because you didn't find your "hook".
The tiny bit of actual magic you can't explain, which will help you fine-tune your "ritual" so that the spirit itself starts to store even more magic into it.
But gazing needs to be done through silence, or it won't keep moving the assemblage point further.
The "ritual", which is a not-doing, will turn into a "doing" and you'll stop where you ended up, going no further.
By the way, a "ritual" is merely a "routine" which doesn't lead back to the river of shit.
Routines are bad only because they lead you back to where you always are.
A routine that leads OUT of the river of shit, is NOT bad.
So it's best called a "ritual".
There was one night for me about a month ago where I am pretty sure I saw a tunnel. I was outside doing my evening gazing, it was probably around midnight. This night I decided to get up and take a little "Right-Way" walk around my town home.
When I came back in the shadows of the backyard, I started doing my passes a little bit more intense than I normally had done before. My whole body was tight and I was trying to activate every single muscle in each movement. I was holding my stomach as tight as I could as I shifted from movement to movement while my eyes were focused in the middle of the double view I was holding.
I eventually stopped moving and was holding as still as I could, every muscle completely tensed and tight as I gazed down the center. Usually everything is very pixelated and out of focus, but that fuzz is pretty consistent. What I saw was a different type of fuzz. Like when you're looking at a picture that already kind of fuzzy, then someone put an even deeper pixelation over it to completely hide what the object was.
I stayed in that position and tense muscles and off-focus for maybe 8-10 minutes. Since then I haven't had enough time to do that again, but I do try to move though all my moves with my muscles activated like that. I can feel myself getting stronger and I'm definitely leaning out.
Anyway is that the type of tunnel you're talking about?
Almost certainly.
Cholita likes to open tunnels, using a Tensegrity move I never saw before.
I'm horrified each time I see it.
The first time I tried to stop her.
But soon after that I found out she's the most powerful of us all.
As Carlos wrote, "Women are innovators".
But because of that, they don't make the best leaders for a sorcery group.
You really do need the angry Chimp male, beating his chest all the time. And insisting the "loyal" chimps need to march around in circles shouting, while he beats even more in rage and rustles the tree branches jumping all around.
Oddly, holding up a broken off tree branch and shaking it gently, is a "come on" to female chimps.
Almost like a Marvin Gaye song.
Unfortunately the much wiser female chimps will just wander off where there's better fruit, as soon as they hear about it.
Keeping in mind, Chimps of both types are sex obsessed and will do it at the drop of a hat.
Which seems to result in a sense of satisfaction, which keeps them from wanting to be more aggressive on their path.
4 months of reading kn this sub, my impression was 3 hours of DR a day from which each session consists 50 minutes of silence (chair of silence) 10 mins of tensegrity. I always thought that I need=$ deeper silence and that's why puffs are not getting more intense. I was making even progress but didn't seem that much. Now your comment put everything back into place and now I understand. How did I miss this? How did I talk to users and read so many posts and still misunderstood it? Was it my inventory approach or was I just not reading well? Or was it just me not being ready and not wanting to do actual work? Well who cares now
Possibly you're an attention seeker, and not someone who actually wants magic.
I'm not sure how you fix that.
It might be your relationship to the people around you.
Don Juan said the people who have the best chances, are the orphan kids licking the plates in the outdoor restaurant when the wealthy businessmen finish eating.
Anyway, your demeanor suggests attention seeker to me.
Like Tony Karim, the double male Carlos found, who decided the Dali Lama was a better choice.
You can still learn though. You have to "clean that up".
Unless of course, you're really just looking for endorsement for a franchise, and you're pulling our legs here.
That may be what's actually going on with Cleargreen.
All four of them.
They're just pulling our legs.
Because otherwise, I can't fathom why they aren't up to their ears in magic by now.
Instead, they get annoyed with me.
But I seem to be turning the tide.
Cholita asked for a tensegrity book, saying she didn't know enough passes anymore.
Franchise sounds good, but iam not looking for any gain here but extending my consciousness. Iam learning and I may be a dumb student due to my stubbornes and my shortcomings of swallong a red pill and trying to be an "alpha male" not too long ago. My intention is clear and all I want is to learn. Please remember my stupid auto reddit generated tag as everytime i post you say I seek attention, when all I want is your guidance. Thank you sir.
This "red pill - alpha male" stuff is too much tainted with social mud. Concerning sorcery, forget everything you've ever learned or heard. It's not about a lifestyle upgrade, but about starting completely from anew. Discard the idea that you can learn magic. Consider it rather as feedback or reward when you did something right. The prerequisite to ever doing anything right is inner silence. So, the best advice I can give you is to practice inner silence. If you can do this persistently enough, one day you'll find that the real "red pill" doesn't have much to do with human concerns anymore.
Thanks, I didn't want to deal with the guy.
He's the pretend "ideal student". Didn't study to learn. He studied to try to fool the advanced in here.
I suspect he's a rare "piss" type of personality.
At one point in private classes, Carlos used that as a topic. For perhaps 2 weeks. As long as any topic got emphasized.
For beginners, here's what I recall of it.
There are only 3 personality types.
Pisses, Farts, and Pukes.
The farts are the kind who will kill to be in charge.
Don Juan was one of those.
The pukes, as I recall, just judge everything and hurl on it.
The pisses seem to be nourishing, but in fact if you drink what they're dispensing you'll eventually die.
The pisses can see sweet and innocent, but there's always an obvious annoyance factor you can't quite put your finger on.
No one escapes being one of the three, as long as they are up at the blue line on the J curve.
To which everyone often returns.
Even don Juan a time or two in the books.
He got annoyed with Carlos and started behaving like a fart type.
Had to catch himself.
I put it in that luminous sphere cartoon.
Nah man looks like I been doing it all wrong, I just don't get it wether instructions are not clear, or iam just an idiot. Most likely both 🥲