Here's the voice choices.
Based on the voice used on the "Enlightenment Channel", which was too robotic to use.
But I found voices and adjusted the pitch and speed.
It's also talking at normal human speed now.
Vote for one!
Even though it's not like what I hear, it'll become the voice of "Fairy", when she's the dreaming emissary in a cartoon.
And I suppose, down in Argentina Fairy speaks spanish anyway.
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I’m voting for Emma
I put a notch next to her picture on that poster with all of them.
I kind of like all of them, except for that first one where the voice mangles "Castaneda".
Doesn't happen on the others.
And they all say "don Juan" correctly.
But some I could have used did not!
It's odd how that works.
What is the box thing in her lap?
It's "Bellen"'s book of spells.
She's the grandmother in the cartoons who will bring Maria to Dance Home, knowing Carlos is there. It's actually kind of what went on back then. The magic store is still there to this day, and workers knew full well Castaneda was teaching there.
I want to have an example of undisciplined witchcraft in the stories.
To show the difference.
Witchcraft always works, it's just a matter of how much.
In the case of non-Olmec witches, it just doesn't work enough to cause them to change their lifestyle, which means you can't get very far.
Our lifestyle is designed to hold us down in the river of shit.
So some "natural" or even wicca type witches might live alone, but that's not the kind of lifestyle change sorcery causes.
Still, "Women are Witches if they just KNOW it."
Something Cholita was taught, perhaps by Florinda.
Samantha, the 4th one, starting at 2:01.
I'm unclear as to why a British accent would be of benefit. I mean there's nothing British about the lineage.
Disregarding that, Ruby, the first voice, is as un-robotic sounding as Samantha. But Chloe is a close second, with a less throaty and more 'prim' accent (cleaner?).
I didn't pick the accent, just the pitch.
The website seems to have more with British, perhaps because of preferences.
I don't know why, but americans are SUCKERS for British accents.
I suppose we recognize our overlords, from long ago?
Just look at Star Wars!
How come there's so many British Accents in that Galaxy so far, far away?
I vote for Samantha, then Ruby
Voting for two is fine.
I'm just going to use the one with the most votes.
I just hope Fairy doesn't start showing up with a British accent!
Or worse, a talking British skunk.
Cholita does British accents.
And is VERY amused if I try to do one.
Like, oddly amused.
I vote Alicia. Second best is Ruby
Two votes is far.
Even three.
Four is death penalty.
Emma or Hazel for me. Samantha sounds too robotic to me
I vote for Ruby and Emma
Out of these, I like the ruby the most.
But maybe you could consider eleven labs, the voices are far less robotic in my option, they aren't free but they are not that expensive if you are only going to be doing limited narration, 5$ /month for 30,000 characters.
Here are some examples:
Grace
Bella
Emily
Serena
Dorothy
Those are definitely superior.
My current site is $39 a month.
I'll go look and redo it if it seems stable there.
Ok, in the voice settings, you get the option to modify the voice stability or emotionality, I tuned that down by 10% (increasing emotionally) for these.
It also allows you to clone any voice if you want to.
They're FANTASTIC.
Only one or two out of dozens had the signs of being artificial.
I'll have to find the pitch controls if there are some.
Or just select a lower voice.
They have one that's perfect for when you're actually inside the IOB world, and they can somewhat threaten you.
It would in fact be nice to have voices no one could tell were artificial.
And they also "randomly" generate voices you can choose, to make sure there aren't too many using the same ones.
I'm surprised they aren't offering imitations yet.
Like that guy who narrates all the wildlife shows, from either the Harry Potter movies or Dr. Who.
I'm not sure which, but everyone loves that voice.
Jajaja es impresionante, parecen narradores de videojuegos! Ya asustan de lo real que suenan 🤣
Eleven labs sounds much better.. robotic voices are really boring
The Ai understands "(low-pitched) text..." but it's not an intended future so it will also say 'low pitched' so the audio needs to be edited.
You can play around with it as well (slow) (fast) (yell) also works, really anything you can thank of, but it will react in substantially different ways depending on the voice and the text and is not 100% reliable.
The Ai understands "(slow voice) text..." but it's not an intended feature so it will also say 'low pitched' so the audio needs to be edited.
You can play around with it as well (calm voice) (loud voice) also work, really anything you can think of, but it will react in substantially different ways depending on the voice and the text and is far from 100% reliable, you can get a substantially different generation with the same parameters as well.
All very good to know.
I was chatting with the AI about it, and it's a fascinating topic.
Synthetic voices.
Even if the voice is absolutely perfect and undetectable from a human voice, if it has no flaws it gets "uncanny" over time.
No one speaks more than a few "perfect sentences" in a row.
ChatGPT even used that term "uncanny"!
Just what we want for an IOB.
They are the essence of uncanny!
I'm glad to hear Jadey heard one speak clearly. Just a day or two ago.
And so the best AI voices add flaws once in a while, which we need for the characters.
Sentences that are very long will cause the speaker to run out of air, ever so slightly.
Some add slight breaths.
Some just the tiniest throat related disturbance in the speech, like 1% of what Robert Kennedy suffers from.
Jadey suggested we shouldn't necessarily use a consistent voice for the dreaming emissary.
And I agree. I'll probably keep the top picks. Might even change her voice in this first one, and have TPW, who goes to visit the emissary, ask why her voice changed.
She can ask if she REALLY heard her speaking?
I like Grace out of these options. I think Bella and Emily sound the same though? Maybe it's a glitch on my end..
I like Emma and Alicia!
Emma's in the top 2 so far.
Aún no diferencio mucho las palabras en inglés pero el tono de voz de Emma me gustó más para darle voz a Fairy. El tono de voz es muy similar, por no decir idéntico, a Chloe.
That makes Emma in the lead so far.
But I'm going to redo it with Eleven Labs voices.
I'll pick ones closer to the winners so far, so that the efforts were not lost.
Eleven Labs voices are INDISTINGUISHABLE from real human voices!
They even add slight flaws.
There's one that's even "scary" a little.
jajajaja me gusta la parte del "miedo"!
Los tonos graves me hicieron sentirlo al concentrarme en las distintas voces!
Emmaaa
She's leading by 50% now.
If i have to choose between these options i would choose Samantha..I still want the Enlightenment robot voice but i know I'm in the minority with that preference, so I'll be a team player!!!
I marked it.
But I'm redoing the voices using Eleven Labs today.
The top vote getters will be what I look for there.
Then I'll do it again.
The cartoons need to be as flawless as possible.
We're just lucky AI came along. All the modern cartoon making stuff wasn't even around 5 years dgo.
We can even kick Disney's butt for realism if we really want to.
That would have sounded arrogant 10 years ago, but not anymore.
Anyone can.
I just purchased "accessories for closeups".
Purses, backpacks, which you can zoom in on as far as you like, and they look absolutely real.
Unfortunately, we'll end up with "mixed assets".
Same problem Disney has, if you watch their Star Wars cartoons.
or "The Mandalorian".
Which is basically a cartoon with occasional real actors.
They'll be looking very realistic, but then they go somewhere new, and however Disney acquired that landscape or city, it wasn't of the same quality as the stuff they created themselves.
And no one, not even Disney, can afford to create everything.
Just like Tensegrity, human effort builds on top of previous human effort.
In magical ways.
Emily
Do you mean "Emma"?
Emily was one of their voices, but I don't believe it's in there.
I'd like to mark that down, sincie Emma has 6 votes so far, the most of any.
If she makes it to 7, I can favor her sound when I pick new improved voices in an hour.
My bad , i listened to the voices in the list below your video, yesterday , anyway, my tardy vote is Samantha
That puts her close to the other leaders.
Since it's a tiered ballot....Ruby, Hazel
So Ruby is at 5, Emma 6. Hazel didn't do so well.
Sad kitty...
Samantha
1 Ruby #2 Emma
Seems likely I'll try to duplicate Ruby and Emma's voice on that Eleven Labs site.
Those two are far ahead of the others.
Emma
1)Emma and then 2)ruby
Samantha
I suppose she has enough votes now that I'll try to find one like her on Eleven Labs.
So it would be Emma, Ruby, and then Samantha I'm looking for over there.
I'll have to add a "proper name test" to each this time. Say "Carlos Castaneda, Don Juan, Zuleica, Genaro, Silvio Manuel and La Gorda" just to see if the voice can handle that.
I'd hate to find out later it mangles one of them.