Is this possible?
I know they say the future is uncertain and in sorcery everything is always changing and different.
But is there some way of knowing based on knowledge about the workings of our species?
I think it’s safe to say that the world is in a feverish state. I’d be interested in knowing if there are some answers about the future hidden somewhere in me behind the surface self.
Jung for example predicted the rise of Nazi Germany with an astounding preciseness. It’s not related to sorcery but I think it’s a good example.
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It is possible in a sense, and it sounds like you already understand that, that the future is kinda in a flux state, and that one can potentially make very well educated guesses, and that visions of it can be seen.
I have had precognitive dreams for instance, one time i had dreamt that my bike tire was stolen, and then sure enough that day it was stolen. However, in my dream it was the back tire when in "reality" it was the front tire.
However, its almost not even worth thinking about until you can reliably acheive Silence. Its like thinking about flying before you can even walk. We've got so much monkey mind to wrestle, generations of shit inside. The glimpses can happen (like my bike dream for instance), seeking it out tends to not work though, mayhaps because trying to "see the future" is a bit of a power trip, fuel for the ego. Best to let it happen as it happens, and just work on Silence in the meantime...and then who knows what you'll be able to see!
Oh, yeah. From what I've read over my time in this subreddit I'm aware of what you mention about walking and flying. I know about the pitfalls of getting excited about flying and expecting to fly when all it is just a by-product so you can't really "achieve" it anyway in that sense but it is more a gift that you can by not wanting to achieve anything -> walking.
If somebody was able to predict their own future / or the future of individuals with regards to say disease or illness for example to speak in worldly terms - that could sort of motivate them to push hardert in their practice. I can certainly see what pinkerton904 was talking about - that one cares less about worldly concerns when they're deep into sorcery practice but there is still a connection.
I have studied some Buddhism before and there is a report of at least one Theravada master who could predict his death 3 years before it happened.
If one hypothetically reached a state in which they could do so, they would most likely no longer be interested in worldly affairs...
How so? Can you explain?
I think if someone is that committed to sorcery, they aren't concerned with the ups and downs of the material world. It takes a ton of effort just to move the assemblage point at a beginner's level. We only have so much time and energy to put into things. When you go to do darkroom it's really hard to silence your mind and stop thinking about the ordinary world but that's the only way to make progress.
I'm a beginner so I can't tell you whether knowledge of the future is possible or not.
Now I understand your way of thought. I guess that makes sense
It's just part of Silent Knowledge.
No different than any other piece of "knowledge".
The problem is, silent knowledge covers all of the multiverse.
And every "event" with any meaning.
So you pretty much never really know what you're looking at.
That's one reason don Juan suggested we learn to read text, rather than view videos on the wall.
Which by the way, is a bit of a "trick" on his part. Trying to keep us honest was his real purpose.
Anyway, you're kind of asking the wrong question.
Yes of course we can do that!
Anything any man could ever know, at any time and in any place or alternate reality, is available to you in Silent Knowledge.
When the main assemblage point aligns to that of the energy body.
But how do you find what you wanted to know? And in the "correct" version of reality. The one you got stuck in by accident.
It's as if you're walking into the Library of Congress where someone has removed the card catalogues, all maps of the place, and any directions of any sort for how to find what you want.
And you want to locate a single "fact"?
I believe the answer is closer to you can't, then you can.
But while trying you'll be gifted with so many cool things that you'll realize your quest for something specific was actually harmful to your efforts to acquire knowledge.
So that you learn to just take what offers itself to you.
Which has far more meaning than what you wanted to know in the first place.
It's a gift from infinity!
Based on all of your activities up to that moment.
What you are presented with will be a mixture of what you wanted, what you needed, what you feared, what helps someone else floating around you, and too many other factors to even begin to list them.
Which is why don Juan said seeing was difficult when it was about someone you care for.
When you have too strong of an interest.
When it comes to the behaviors of the average, I think that the concept of inertia, personal, emotional, perceptual, energetic tends to rule, hence, looking at history to view patterns is all a tonal can do, other than pursing the nagual as implied here.