The animation is pretty cool. The content gets a D minus; however, as if one can go socialize with the dead just like that! Welp, consider the source of that tale..
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u/danl999
12 points2023-10-31 15:29
Armando's books are fictional, and he conspired with that awful Eddy Martel, a publisher of children's books, to rip off the Castaneda community.
Nothing he wrote helped save the reputation of Carlos over the decades, as the entire world decided he "was thoroughly debunked".
No one became serious, no one learned real magic, and books from frauds like Armando only made matters much worse.
Armando and Eddy need to apologize to the community and admit the deception.
Lately, they go on social media trying to change the story, because of this subreddit having exposed them.
At first the story was that Armando started meeting with CArlos at bookshop lectures.
Likely just one, for which armando refused to share his notes with the community, the way hundreds of others did.
Eddy convinced him to become a con artists instead, and his single encounter with Carlos, perhaps 2 but not from what I've been told, expanded into a pretend apprenticeship.
With a series of 3 books, all just to give out the small amount of information Armando heard at that single lecture.
Now exposed, they changed the lie to claim he was in private classes. Because the evidence Armando was a con artist, was coming from former private class members.
So they snuck into the Cleargreen chat group where it's not modified for truth, and claimed Larry from private classes had said Armando was a student of those.
Unfortunately for them, Cholita, Jadey, and I knew Larry well.
And attended virtually ALL private classes. Never having seen Armando there.
I put out word to have Larry come explain to me.
So the lie was changed in another chat group.
Now the lie goes that Armando was in secret private classes in Mexico.
Except, if that's true, then how did Larry see him?
Did he commute 2000 miles each weekend, perhaps with Carlos, just to give a class with Armando in it?
And how come no one in private classes in Los Angeles noticed Carlos disappearing like that?
It's another ludicrous lie from Eddie and Armando.
And the proof is, Armando knows absolutely nothing about sorcery, as evidenced in his books.
Can't make any of it work.
He's just a con artist.
And this is a cartoon of one of his made up stories, designed to steal from people.
I'm not sure who's putting work into this animation, but in so doing they've become con artists too.
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u/danl999
6 points2023-10-31 15:42
Does anyone still have the screenshots of Eddy and Armando lying in chat groups?
It would be interesting to tag both sets of lies, one contradicting the last, in this post so people can see it for themselves.
If the OP deletes the post (seems likely), we should put it back up as best possible.
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u/utolsopi
1 points2023-10-31 18:19
From my point of view, discussing the veracity of Armando Torres' books is very similar to discussing the veracity of what was written by Castaneda. I don't see much sense in focusing on the human figure but rather on the content of what their books say, on the strength of their teachings. In recent years, I have studied the Mesoamerican calendars Tonalpohualli (The Tonal count) and the Nahuatl language with indigenous people. The teachings that appear in Armando Torres' books truly serve as a bridge between concepts and techniques still used by the native peoples of Mexico and the concepts that Don Juan taught to Castaneda. The explanations he provides about the conception of time and space, the structure of the universe, and how those sorcerers embodied these ideas in their constructions, sculptures, and books are magnificent. I don't intend to convince anyone, but if we analyze the message that the video is trying to convey, it is: Recapitulate, you don't have time, death will come to us all.
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u/danl999
6 points2023-10-31 18:32
Yea, except you'll never help anyone at all with this.
You seem to be clueless about what's been going on in the Castaneda community for the last 55 years.
It's unfortunate you've chosen to try to pretend to be teaching and helping, before you ever actually learned yourself.
And despite what you believe is helpful, your type of activity almost led to the loss of all of this amazing magic.
Because to you, it's all the same. All just pretending and good feelings.
No one will every learn sorcery for real, in that manner.
Nor did doing recap and tensegrity lead anyone to actual sorcery knowledge.
It's just not enough, and certainly isn't what Carlos instructed us to do, after his death.
I suppose for you it's a good way to learn to animate.
To have something you feel is important.
But you are NOT helping with this video. You're further contributing to the total loss of all of this knowledge.
Carlos himself told me that he'd failed, just before he died.
And told the same to others in private classes.
Hoping we'd do something about it.
The problem now is, there's so many who like to pretend their sorcery.
And willfully so, as you are doing.
Did you use Blender for this?
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u/danl999
3 points2023-10-31 19:30
From my point of view, discussing the veracity of Armando Torres' books is very similar to discussing the veracity of what was written by Castaneda. I don't see much sense in focusing on the human figure but rather on the content of what their books say, on the strength of their teachings. In recent years, I have studied the Mesoamerican calendars Tonalpohualli (The Tonal count) and the Nahuatl language with indigenous people. The teachings that appear in Armando Torres' books truly serve as a bridge between concepts and techniques still used by the native peoples of Mexico and the concepts that Don Juan taught to Castaneda. The explanations he provides about the conception of time and space, the structure of the universe, and how those sorcerers embodied these ideas in their constructions, sculptures, and books are magnificent. I don't intend to convince anyone, but if we analyze the message that the video is trying to convey, it is: Recapitulate, you don't have time, death will come to us all.
I used you as a teaching lesson on Facebook.
Hopefully you'll go read the books, instead of just pretending you did, and also study the final 5 publications of Carlos that have instructions for us.
Two are unpublished, but you can find them in this subreddit.
They tell EXACTLY what we ought to be doing, in order to learn this magic for real.
Which we have. It's all working now, in case you didn't bother to look around.
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The animation is pretty cool. The content gets a D minus; however, as if one can go socialize with the dead just like that! Welp, consider the source of that tale..
Armando's books are fictional, and he conspired with that awful Eddy Martel, a publisher of children's books, to rip off the Castaneda community.
Nothing he wrote helped save the reputation of Carlos over the decades, as the entire world decided he "was thoroughly debunked".
No one became serious, no one learned real magic, and books from frauds like Armando only made matters much worse.
Armando and Eddy need to apologize to the community and admit the deception.
Lately, they go on social media trying to change the story, because of this subreddit having exposed them.
At first the story was that Armando started meeting with CArlos at bookshop lectures.
Likely just one, for which armando refused to share his notes with the community, the way hundreds of others did.
Eddy convinced him to become a con artists instead, and his single encounter with Carlos, perhaps 2 but not from what I've been told, expanded into a pretend apprenticeship.
With a series of 3 books, all just to give out the small amount of information Armando heard at that single lecture.
Now exposed, they changed the lie to claim he was in private classes. Because the evidence Armando was a con artist, was coming from former private class members.
So they snuck into the Cleargreen chat group where it's not modified for truth, and claimed Larry from private classes had said Armando was a student of those.
Unfortunately for them, Cholita, Jadey, and I knew Larry well.
And attended virtually ALL private classes. Never having seen Armando there.
I put out word to have Larry come explain to me.
So the lie was changed in another chat group.
Now the lie goes that Armando was in secret private classes in Mexico.
Except, if that's true, then how did Larry see him?
Did he commute 2000 miles each weekend, perhaps with Carlos, just to give a class with Armando in it?
And how come no one in private classes in Los Angeles noticed Carlos disappearing like that?
It's another ludicrous lie from Eddie and Armando.
And the proof is, Armando knows absolutely nothing about sorcery, as evidenced in his books.
Can't make any of it work.
He's just a con artist.
And this is a cartoon of one of his made up stories, designed to steal from people.
I'm not sure who's putting work into this animation, but in so doing they've become con artists too.
Does anyone still have the screenshots of Eddy and Armando lying in chat groups?
It would be interesting to tag both sets of lies, one contradicting the last, in this post so people can see it for themselves.
If the OP deletes the post (seems likely), we should put it back up as best possible.
From my point of view, discussing the veracity of Armando Torres' books is very similar to discussing the veracity of what was written by Castaneda. I don't see much sense in focusing on the human figure but rather on the content of what their books say, on the strength of their teachings. In recent years, I have studied the Mesoamerican calendars Tonalpohualli (The Tonal count) and the Nahuatl language with indigenous people. The teachings that appear in Armando Torres' books truly serve as a bridge between concepts and techniques still used by the native peoples of Mexico and the concepts that Don Juan taught to Castaneda. The explanations he provides about the conception of time and space, the structure of the universe, and how those sorcerers embodied these ideas in their constructions, sculptures, and books are magnificent. I don't intend to convince anyone, but if we analyze the message that the video is trying to convey, it is: Recapitulate, you don't have time, death will come to us all.
Yea, except you'll never help anyone at all with this.
You seem to be clueless about what's been going on in the Castaneda community for the last 55 years.
It's unfortunate you've chosen to try to pretend to be teaching and helping, before you ever actually learned yourself.
And despite what you believe is helpful, your type of activity almost led to the loss of all of this amazing magic.
Because to you, it's all the same. All just pretending and good feelings.
No one will every learn sorcery for real, in that manner.
Nor did doing recap and tensegrity lead anyone to actual sorcery knowledge.
It's just not enough, and certainly isn't what Carlos instructed us to do, after his death.
I suppose for you it's a good way to learn to animate.
To have something you feel is important.
But you are NOT helping with this video. You're further contributing to the total loss of all of this knowledge.
Carlos himself told me that he'd failed, just before he died.
And told the same to others in private classes.
Hoping we'd do something about it.
The problem now is, there's so many who like to pretend their sorcery.
And willfully so, as you are doing.
Did you use Blender for this?
I used you as a teaching lesson on Facebook.
Hopefully you'll go read the books, instead of just pretending you did, and also study the final 5 publications of Carlos that have instructions for us.
Two are unpublished, but you can find them in this subreddit.
They tell EXACTLY what we ought to be doing, in order to learn this magic for real.
Which we have. It's all working now, in case you didn't bother to look around.