in which book does Carlos Castaneda talk about the Voladores?

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u/AthinaJ8 4 points 2023-11-21 23:53

Please read the wiki about the flyers, it may have what you asking. Seems that you made a post about this subject in the past but for these kind of questions better ask on the chat, don't post.

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u/Ok-Assistance175 9 points 2023-11-22 00:25

The best write up is in the Active Side of Infinity - chapter titled ‘the mud shadows’ - best to read that just before evening twilight, then go for a walk outside along an area with trees!

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u/Cerber0333 1 points 2023-11-22 01:22

didn't he mention something in the first book too?

("Don Juan's Teachings")

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u/Ok-Assistance175 3 points 2023-11-22 01:29

If you already know about that reference, then WHY are you even posting about it?

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u/Ok-Assistance175 3 points 2023-11-22 01:31

Yeah, i am aware of such references, including comments from workshops where, allegedly, Don Juan was miffed that the old seers never warned about thd flyers!

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u/Cerber0333 1 points 2023-11-22 02:49

I posted it for this reason: I only read two books some time ago by Carlos Castaneda, the first is "The Art of Dreaming" now I would like to reread them but in chronological order and take the missing chapters, I remember that Don Juan spoke about the "voladores" and the "world of shadows" but since so much time has passed I don't remember if it is in the first book written by Carlos in "The Art of Dreaming",
thank you,

English is not my first language and I apologize for not expressing myself better

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u/NightComprehensive52 2 points 2023-11-22 03:42

It was most likely in his earlier books, not the art of dreaming. If u want, we have an all-in-one text document where u can use the "find" feature on your browser (chrome for example) to search for specific text

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u/danl999 9 points 2023-11-22 13:20

The flier obsessed never seem to actually become serious and learn. We've seen thousands pass through here in the last 4+ years.

It's some kind of "woo-woo" groupie obsession thing.

I've never understood it.

Here's real magic, right here in front of your nose.

And you don't actually want to learn it!?

You're a "warner"?

A category of minor bad player. Read the wiki on the right. A bad player is someone who pretends to want to participate in playing the game, but in fact is after something else. Maybe the coach's daughter. Maybe to steal equipment.

Hard to say what's really up with them.

It's very much like we're playing baseball in here with anyone who wants to be serious about it, because we hope to form a league and compete with other teams. But in a future time period when baseball is almost forgotten. So we take it very seriously.

And a new kid comes along who does nothing but ask about how many kids got killed by a baseball hitting them in the head, how many have bad elbows after years of it, and how many have permanently scarred up legs from sliding into home base.

It's just so obvious that kid isn't there to play baseball.

But let's examine "The Flier Menace". To put your mind at ease.

All you have to do to make the fliers leave you alone is get rid of your internal dialogue and move your assemblage point until "self" goes away.

They don't like to consume the energy of people who aren't always feeling sorry for themselves and obsessed with seeking attention from other humans.

But instead of trying to learn that, you're feeling sorry for yourself and seeking attention from us.

Does that make any sense?

I think it's simply the "woo-woo" aspect.

I've heard a few Art Bell shows myself.

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u/Ok-Assistance175 2 points 2023-11-22 21:03

The tensegrity book also has really good content about them voladores.

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u/danl999 3 points 2023-11-22 22:28

I sure hope I don't have to make an animation about that topic...

It's never a good sign when people care about it more than usual.

And even worse if "Archons" comes up during the conversation.

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u/Ok-Assistance175 2 points 2023-11-22 22:32

Avoid them like ‘pests’ ! I sense that could well be the metaphor Carlos had in mind for those types of inorganic awareness. I understand why it’s pointless to talk about them too much, other than in terms of a pest, like those annoying swarms of mosquitoes 🦟 one would like to avoid.