What is this sub?

Sorry but I’m having a hard time understand the beliefs or convictions that this sub holds.

So I’m seeings stuff about “puffs”
I’m assuming y’all are attributing some type of phenomenon to these puffs.

Or the puffs themselves are the phenomenon, and they have their own attributes based on color?

Is this different then visual snow?

Any information would be dope I love diving into weird niches and theories that people are into.

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u/LazyNacho 3 points 2023-12-27 20:47

Read the sidebar

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u/Lucious-Varelie 2 points 2023-12-27 21:44

I’m trying but it’s DENSE

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u/Which_Zebra_3883 11 points 2023-12-27 20:48

Calling it weird theories is for sure the best way to get a thoughtful response from the more active members of the sub.

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u/Lucious-Varelie -4 points 2023-12-27 20:49

Guessing ur being rhetorical.

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u/MattDolt 3 points 2023-12-27 21:22

LOL

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u/Lucious-Varelie -1 points 2023-12-27 21:40

?

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 9 points 2023-12-27 20:59
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u/Lucious-Varelie 1 points 2023-12-27 21:02

Alright. I’m still really confused. I’m watching a video about it right now. You guys have your own niche terminology so the barrier for entry is weird to say the least

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 9 points 2023-12-27 21:07

https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/terminology

I added this to the above comment after posting it, but I'll put it here instead:

Actual Sorcery (as opposed to showy/theatrical Hollywood wizardry) isn't "some weird add-on," it's reality, ALL OF REALITY, as it actually is outside of human preconceptions and societal/cultural programming.

And you get to test it, not believe it; since it's a technology focused on the underpinnings of reality instead of matter (at least not directly concerned with matter).

And it's still fully functioning, which is more than can be said of modern religions.

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u/Lucious-Varelie 5 points 2023-12-27 21:11

So 1. Magic is real
2. Real magic is inherent and implicit.
3. You can test the truth of the previous 2 claims by the movements that have been refined, originally from shamans of old, now modernized. These movements allow you to verify the magic is real.

What am I missing?

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 15 points 2023-12-27 21:16

You're skipping over the most important component.

Silencing Your Inner Monologue

Which is so difficult and consuming, and a task that basically takes much of a lifetime, that virtually everyone is bound to skip over it and promise to "deal with that later."

And thus they get no, or very little, in your face "magic" (non-ordinary reality)...which is the only way to erode doubt via direct experience.

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u/Lucious-Varelie 4 points 2023-12-27 21:40

Alright. Does the practice include using the imagination at all?

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 15 points 2023-12-27 21:41

THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

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u/Lucious-Varelie 3 points 2023-12-27 21:42

Interesting.

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u/NightComprehensive52 2 points 2023-12-31 18:59

No, if u are imagining anything u are actively hindering progress

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u/Lucious-Varelie 3 points 2023-12-27 21:02

So it’s movements that are meant to facilitate your awareness of your intent?

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u/Ok-Assistance175 7 points 2023-12-27 21:10

I hope you have a sense of humor! But that’s kind of you in this great scene…

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u/Ok-Assistance175 3 points 2023-12-27 21:10

I was there myself once…

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u/Lucious-Varelie 1 points 2023-12-27 21:12

LOL THATS HOW U SEE ME LOL.

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u/Lucious-Varelie 5 points 2023-12-27 21:17

Nah but fr I need to understand the totality of your claims. I’ve been around the block so it’s not hard for me to conceptualize the systems people claim to use to access a phenomenon, but this stuff seems very different than any other magic systems I’ve investigated.

There is so much that’s new.

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u/LazyNacho 2 points 2023-12-27 21:38

All of your previous conceptual knowledge will at best be useless, at worst standing in your way of learning real sorcery.

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u/Lucious-Varelie 1 points 2023-12-27 21:43

Is feeling involved in the practice?

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u/richardslang_MD 2 points 2023-12-28 23:52

The problem is you think you've been around the block. Let that shit go. None of that is relevant to any of this. This is the only magic system. Everything else is honestly just watered down bullshit filled with feelings and emotions.

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u/Jadeyelmonte 3 points 2023-12-28 00:33

LOL. It is missing the guy asking the rules of the game while they play.

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u/danl999 8 points 2023-12-27 21:32

Not the way you mean it.

It's movements which are designed to "disassemble you" at the most fundamental level, far beyond solid matter, space, and time.

The good news is, it's so difficult to do that, you have plenty of time to notice it happening, and make an informed choice.

Once you understand it's real, and what it does.

Most people, if they actually learn real magic, will give up eventually.

Now knowing what the real thing is, but realizing no one else can come along with you.

So they go back to their ordinary lives before they reach a state where that's impossible.

It's a problem in here...

Only 1 in 100 who subscribe are willing to do actual work.

Sorcery doesn't involve taking blissful naps while sitting up, the way meditation does.

It's actual, unpleasant work.

Then if 1 in 100 are willing to work enough to see some results, unfortunately 4 out of 5 of those will discover it's not what they imagined it to be, because they can't "share it with their friends and loved ones".

It's cold.

Non-human.

Beyond words or thoughts or writing systems.

As a result, my estimate is that if we get 500 subscribers here, only 1 will reach silent knowledge.

That's Yoda level magic, from Star Wars.

Which is based on our magic.

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u/Lucious-Varelie 2 points 2023-12-27 21:36

Thank you for the response. Can you tell me what it feels like? There’s something called frisson’s, or goosebumps. Is it all similar to this?

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u/danl999 6 points 2023-12-27 21:49

You can get those.

We consider those a good sign for beginners.

But you can check out what happens on that J curve diagram.

Goosebumps end before the red zone on the J curve.

So it's beginner's level.

Along with fear of spirits.

I suppose I'll post "the map" again, rather than link to it.

Look on the right, where the little gastly Fairy is standing on a hand, and that's where goosebumps happen.

Then notice how much more there is along those railroad tracks, to get to that purple station at the end.

That's our goal. Over there.

I get there nightly, but can't sustain it as long as I'd like to.

Buddhism never gets below the midpoint between the green station on the right of that image, and the red station below that.

Hinduism never gets through that tunnel on the lower right of the picture, although to their credit they do make it almost to the entrance there. A very few of them, and only two or three times in their entire life.

We go there daily, for hours.

And only sorcerers go past that tunnel down there on the right.

If there's something out there in the world which does get further, no one has managed to point this subreddit to it on the internet, in the last 5 years.

With 8000 new people added here during that time, and most of them aware we're always interested in potential real magic out there.

There just isn't any so far.

You're welcome to point to something, and I'll take a look.

But it'll inevitably be total obvious crapola.

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u/Lucious-Varelie 1 points 2023-12-27 21:53

Wow…

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u/Lucious-Varelie 1 points 2023-12-27 21:57

Feel like I’ve done the inorganic being thing before.

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u/Lucious-Varelie 2 points 2023-12-27 21:57

It was a predator like from AvP

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u/danl999 2 points 2023-12-27 22:28

We live in a predatorial universe.

We're predators too.

Just ask your lunch.

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u/Lucious-Varelie 2 points 2023-12-27 22:32

Well sure but I’m just sharing the experience.

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u/danl999 7 points 2023-12-27 22:39

Well sure but I’m just sharing the experience.

I'm just trying to help people learn, as always.

Usually they don't like it much.

So while I can see 20 problems with a new person (it's still being debated if you are a new person for real) almost immediately, I only dare try to correct one or two of their misunderstandings.

People are used to the kiss ass guru type, who greatly wants your money.

So that even their groupies will treat new people very well.

Not at all caring what happens to the new people, seeing as how they're being paired off with a con man guru.

Meanwhile in here, no one wants your cash.

So there's no concern for how you are treated beyond whether it'll upset the witches in here.

The only concern in here is to maximize your chances to learn.

Which isn't a very successful strategy so far.

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u/Lucious-Varelie 2 points 2023-12-27 22:53

I am definitely new and real lol.

Yep I wanna keep my money.

Thanks any help is always appreciated.

Who are the witches?

Why isn’t it successful? I feel like I’ve been getting a lot of new and interesting information from replies.

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u/danl999 2 points 2023-12-28 13:32

Taisha Abelar, Florinda Donner Grau, and Carol Tiggs.

Of course, in the lineages everyone took the last name of a previous lineage member, perhaps even one who never really existed.

It's a fascinating technique, designed to remove you from your normal realm where the internal dialogue is king.

The internal dialogue is just a side effect of how we focus our attention.

Which is all we really have. Awareness, which we can focus where we choose.

Normally it's caught up in an endless loop repeating the same things over and over, and only focusing on the known.

In a very greedy manner I might add.

It doesn't even bother to focus on the real world, but instead focuses on a phantom copy of it, which you have created with your internal dialogue.

By creating a new story around yourself, such as adopting the persona of an "Abelar", you make it easier to focus outside that phantom realm and into the real world.

Where you'll be shocked to find, most of reality can't be described at all.

I sure wish I could describe what I saw last night!

It was a tiny bit transformative.

A double woman I tried to teach more than a decade ago, thinking that might be a way to save the knowledge, returned for a visit and I got a huge chunk of energy from her.

Which allowed me to see "between the cracks".

Where I found things we ought to be focusing on instead of what we do focus on.

Kind of like little red riding hood suddenly realizing the forest is filled with wolves, hiding behind all the bushes.

But also with unicorns and Fairies.

And Red was merrily strolling along, ignoring everything so that she could get Grannies cookies without delay.

But it's impossible to describe what's between everything we perceive.

And those lineages last names don't really matter much to us in our situation.

We're learning alone.

Except possibly those names could be used as a Silent Knowledge topic, to go back in time and witness the history of the sorcery lineages.

The names are like an index, to find interesting records about that topic.

Taisha and Florinda have books of their own, and since they're women those books are very important to read. The male point of view is very limited.

Why wasn't Carlos successful?

This isn't a philosophy or religion.

Or a money making scheme.

If no one learned to move their assemblage points, that's a failure.

And no one did.

Sorcery doesn't even begin until you move it so far that it's way, way past anywhere any other religion, saint, prophet, or guru got.

When the absurdity of all religions and magical systems is right in front of you on a single spot in space which can't be described at all, and is certainly completely outside their fabricated understanding of things, then you're starting to get somewhere.

If you can describe an "important point" in sorcery, that's not sorcery yet.

Sorcery is the very opposite of everything else out there which we've come to perceive.

It's beyond meaning, and mostly beyond humanness.

A good point from the witches books:

They prefer exploring the non-human, because they have no attachments to anything they encounter, and can't get stuck on something.

The non-human is where most of the knowable multiverse lies.

Unfortunately, some of the universe is "unknowable". At least, in our current form.

Pretending you understand sorcery, or are practicing it just by learning about it, is not only useless but it'll bury real magic alive.

Which is the whole point.

Mankind is under attack by those who use us as a food source.

They easily manipulate us, as long as they keep us weak from having our awareness eaten down until all we can do is focus on our phantom world of the internal dialogue.

So if you believe Carlos was a success, you'd better analyze what your motivations are, for learning.

It's like believing that if you go to the bus station and pick up all the travel brochures, reading each one multiple times, you are a successful world traveler.

Possibly because you believe you could now earn money giving travel advice.

Having never left your hometown.

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u/danl999 19 points 2023-12-27 21:11

It's the only real magic visible on the internet.

Everything else is an obvious fraud. All religions included in that.

But oddly, people become infuriated hearing that.

All the while pretending their own magic daily.

So they of all people, should instantly realize the difference between real, and pretend.

But don't.

Even though it's like having a job that never gives you a paycheck, or having one that pays weekly without fail.

People just cling to their paycheck free jobs, and never seem to notice they're working, and yet still living in poverty.

We even get people who can't tell the difference between pretending, and really seeing impossible fully visible magic.

They've got fraud systems embedded in their mind, and will "visualize" results.

Or just claim them, thinking no one else could know they're doing that.

WRONG.

In here we know. Because we have the real thing.

Unfortunately nothing you can say to someone who wants to pretend to have magic will get them to stop the pretending and do some actual work towards the real thing.

They just fade away when they realize there's no way to get any attention here.

And those who do work hard and get real magic, are still not going to get any social or monetary benefits from it.

They can't even "share it" with others, because of how rare it is for anyone to have real magic. And how impossible to bring along someone who doesn't.

Instead, if you actually have real magic you come under constant attack by the forces of darkness, which don't want humans to have anything real.

We're food for them.

Once you are practicing the real thing, you don't taste good anymore.

Thus this subreddit comes under regular attack in groups of 3.

Carlos Castaneda warned us about it, and it turns out to be very true.

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u/tabdrops 1 points 2023-12-27 21:49

Have we had you before? Someone has posted the same questions some time ago.

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u/Lucious-Varelie 1 points 2023-12-27 21:49

Nah this is the first I’ve heard of this sub

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u/Lucious-Varelie 1 points 2023-12-27 23:21

Does this sub have a discord?

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2023-12-27 23:55
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u/Lucious-Varelie 1 points 2023-12-27 23:56

Thanks big dog

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u/3Strides 2 points 2023-12-28 16:05

I struggle with the fact that it is so difficult to obtain information on the fliers. They do come after you, but no one provides the information on how to deal with it. It seems that should come first.

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u/AthinaJ8 2 points 2023-12-28 18:51

The only way to deal with them is to practice and raise your awareness. They don't like the awareness that is growing higher than the knees. They don't find it tasty after one point and they stop licking your shiny outer coating.

You can find all that and more if you search about it on the search bar.

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u/3Strides 1 points 2023-12-28 22:57

I have..maybe they blocked the answers!! 😹

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u/3Strides 1 points 2023-12-28 22:57

Thank you for that advice too!!!!

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u/3Strides 1 points 2023-12-29 13:47

Awareness of them?

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u/richardslang_MD 3 points 2023-12-28 23:50

Read the books dawg. There are like 17. This sub is about practicing silence to move your assemblage point. This is the only "weird thing" you need to be interested in honestly. And it's actually not weird at all, we've just been programmed to think anything beyond the physical realm is weird. For me to say anything more, I'd be putting my own perspective on things and that is definitely NOT the point of this sub. It's about you meeting the real you. Is it megadeath who sings "hello me, meet the real me!"? That's basically the best way to sum it up.