Interested but confused.

I’m very intrigued by what I’ve seen so far, but I’m coming across things I’m unable to understand. I need help finding out where to start, a run down on vocabulary maybe?

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u/Ok-Assistance175 3 points 2024-01-28 07:08
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 3 points 2024-01-28 11:22
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u/danl999 9 points 2024-01-28 12:31

Did you see the cartoon section?

And be sure to notice, no one in here wants your money. You couldn't spend it on anyone helping in here, even if you tried. Nor indirectly through a book or video, or monetized Youtube interview.

You can't say the same about anywhere else. It's always about the money elsewhere.

Sometimes you get a new guy pretending to teach some make believe magic, such as Buddhism, who will insist he doesn't take money.

But the people who created his technique did, and if you look around you'll find he wants to also.

He just can't figure out how yet.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 2 points 2024-01-28 13:44
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u/Unhappy_Jury5197 1 points 2024-02-02 10:01

Hello, thank you everyone for this subreddit. Allow me to write here because I can't write in chat yet. (Also a few words about InVideo AI: I tried it around 2 months ago, and it was very bad and disappointing. I think there's no AI at the moment capable of creating a decent video.)

I have a question about silence practice. I've read the wiki, and I believe I understand what it means. I'm practicing it, but I'm only managing to do it for a glimpse of a few seconds at the moment, and that is why I am sitting absolutely still. But at least I believe I know how to make that silence last longer; I just need to practice more.

The problem is — I absolutely CANNOT catch even a glimpse of silence when I'm reading. The moment I see a word, my mind instantly reads it out loud in my head, no matter how hard I try. I've tried reading slower, I've tried reading fast, but it's still there. This is sad because this sub contains a lot of info that I read for hours, but also, I absolutely cannot shut up while I read, and i want to practice as much time as i have. What do?

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 2 points 2024-02-02 10:14

That's normal when reading.

What we're working towards is the flexibility to turn away from the internal monologue at will. Not to abolish it 24/7.

That doesn't happen until the human form is lost. A very much more advanced state that no one in here is directly familiar with yet.

The constant echo, that can't be silenced at all, is the problem.

Not thinking itself.

It's the obsessive commentary of the construct termed "the social self" that causes human misery.

A separate layer in the mind.

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u/Unhappy_Jury5197 1 points 2024-02-02 14:21

Thank you.

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 15:02

When I asked where to start, or if someone would let me dm to talk about stuff to make sure I'm not making mistakes etc, I was basically told In more words to "figure it out" lol

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 6 points 2024-01-29 18:42

My God, Dan helped you a lot, I just read the entire chain. If you understood that as "figure it out", I don't know what to say.

Have you started trying the practices? Or did you wait 20 days for this?

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 18:58

I've listened to a few audiobooks and studied when I could but that was in the middle of peak season delivering for Amazon, and being a single parent Im limited in the time I have. But that's basically the only "hobby" I've invested time into other than sleep. I know it's not a hobby, just basically saying that's what I would generally call that slot of time otherwise.

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 19:01

Also for reference to where my mind was at the time of that conversation, it happened about 15 mins after learning that the practice even existed at all.

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 19:07

Also, only 2 of those comments were towards me as I jumped into a random thread to reply to Dan directly where I would be the only reply to a comment trying to see if I was even worth his time to reply to.

The rest of the chain I wasn't even a part of.

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 19:30

After him phrasing "no" and "the info is here, dig it out" about 30 different ways, and then him saying he was known to be a grumpy bastard, I understood what he was trying to get across and that he wasn't just saying no to be a dick. He's probably been bothered with the same request more times than he feels like counting, and to him I'm some noob who he doesn't believe actually cares to learn in the first place.

I'm not really sure why he made it a point to say several times that this isn't a "pay to win" type of thing because I never implied or even considered that was the case. If I ever even once saw a hint of some kinda fake guru shit I would have never even considered saying a word or reading any further lol.

I get he is very protective of his beliefs because of how much he's invested into it and the experiences he's had over so long. And there is def a superiority complex to an extent that was rightfully earned because he's from my understanding more or less as close to a day 1 as it gets. But that's also the reason I sought him out for a mentor to learn from personally hoping for some kind of straight answer as to where I should start as a very first step to get me or my mind in the correct place to begin the journey.

I by no means mean any offense or to sound ungrateful from that short 2-3 message interaction.

I felt at the time like he felt I was asking for proof that the practice is not fake, and he was trying to hammer in that it wasn't and why. And that it's not something I can just be schooled on, which also wasn't what I wanted.

I feel like it was just some back and forth misunderstanding because of how difficult it is to convey tone through text vs live. Plus, again, I'm a random he's never seen or heard of that appeared out of nowhere asking the day 1 guy to push me in the right direction, and he's prolly, like i said been asked the same an annoying amount of times, and he has likely tried and had his time wasted enough times that he's over it. I definitely got the vibe of him needing to be shown proof though effort that I valued his time as much as he did for him to take me asking dumb questions any kind of serious.

And, again, I get it. I'm the same way at times about other things

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 19:31

And I could be 100% completely wrong about everything I just said. But that was how I've understood the situation I put myself into

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 19:34

And the only reason I didn't say a word of any of this at the time is because I'm not above asking for help. But I'm not a kiss ass for anyone xD.

I hope if he wastes the time to read all of this, he can at least laugh at or relate to that lol

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 4 points 2024-01-29 19:37

He gave you a lot of help:

  1. "Read the manual."

2."The universe is conscious.

It doesn't give a shit about anyone, so don't start visualizing some higher entity that wants to make us "perfect", causing it to guide us with valuable lessons.

It's more like an idiot savant.

Who loves every tiny detail in the phone book. Or the encyclopedia set.

So it helps all living beings, along their own chosen path."

You can practice inner silence nearly all the time while working at Amazon, I suspect.

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 19:52

Oh yeah for sure man. Ive been practicing that for over 15 years without realizing that was a thing that was important to practice. That's just how I found peace and focus. I don't get anxiety like most of the world, I go the opposite direction and care about basically nothing because nothing matters. Last 15 years have been 2nd/3rd shift warehouse jobs alone and now driving alone. I don't listen to music. The time anything plays through my speakers at all it's podcasts or audiobooks on something I want to learn. I don't need to "shut my head up" to avoid overthinking like most people on antidepressants or whatever. I do that naturally because nothing matters lol.

When I posted that day I was drawn to the things I ready because I thought I might have a foot in the door already and not even know it just because of the type of things I notice and am aware of my surroundings while multitasking and such.

Not saying I've got anything figured out. But my head stays empty pretty much constantly until I decide I'm interested in getting good at something and then i force myself to fill all of my bandwidth with just that because i know that I need to trick my brain into hyper obsession. I've always been ultra competitive and found any way I could to min/max. And with that said, it's been a long time since I've chosen to fill that empty space with a new obsession because I haven't cared about anything enough to give that space to.

I was attracted to this practice and the stuff that I was reading because I was already interested and could relate to a lot of things I was reading just based on stuff I had already learned or experienced in other situations in one way or another

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 2 points 2024-01-29 19:59

Well, practice it then. It's honestly much more fun than min/maxing at any game. I min-max too, but min-maxing doesn't work for this. I don't know exactly what to say except practice it.

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u/superr 3 points 2024-01-29 20:48

If that's the case, test how good your silence is. Make a darkroom or try some day gazing techniques. You should easily be able to perceive "weirdness" and things that could not possibly be there if your silence is good. Then you can focus on increasing the magic through all the practices and techniques here

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 2 points 2024-01-29 19:44

I really do suggest re-reading what he said to you, btw.

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 19:56

Oh I have. Several times since, and again today after you bringing it up. And I don't want you to feel like I didn't think he said anything. I know my comment came across that way and my bad man. I appreciated any kind of response at all considering what I was asking and who I asked.

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 19:58

And honestly prolly will moreso as I continue just because of that hyper obsession thing I mentioned. That's just how I absorb info. I have a hard time learning through reading vs hearing and hands on. So when reading I read it over and over and over through time to drill it In so it sticks and I'm comfortable I got everything out of it I could. And at this stage where I've got a fresh slate any info helps

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 2 points 2024-01-29 20:03

Read the books too! I prefer that to audiobooks, personally, but if audiobooks is what works for you, I guess it's fine.

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 20:14

Its a lot easier for me with audio as a type of learning like i said, but the bigger reason it's preferred is because I'm delivering from 1030am to usually 9-10pm 4-5 days a week. And I can't read books while driving lol. I get a lot more volume from the audio with how my time is laid out.

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 2 points 2024-01-29 20:18

Yep, no worries! You gotta do what you gotta do to maintain the blue line.

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 20:24

You play poker? Because that immediately sent my brain into holdem manager PTSD lmao

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 1 points 2024-01-29 20:30

No, look up the j-curve diagram (under introduction).

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 20:37

I saved that picture that first day! And then my phone shattered a week later lol. I need to save it again. I knew it was about something else lol. Never know though

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 2 points 2024-01-29 20:43

I hope you've gotten enough out of you for today!

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-30 02:20

Lol I got enough out today to be good for another 20 days or so ;)

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 2 points 2024-01-29 20:07

"Read the manual" as he said. Read it over and over and over just like he said to do. He literally told you to do what you do anyways, so get to it :)

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u/Beneficial_Pop4651 1 points 2024-01-29 20:16

Thanks man! I reeeeally appreciate you hearing me out and not talking to me like a retard for being new or just disregarding me entirely lol. You've got no idea how much it means from the experiences I've been through. I've been figuring out my own path since I was 17 when my mom moved 8 hours from me and I chose to stay behind. That was 17 years ago lol

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 1 points 2024-01-29 20:24

Enjoy! I'm sure you'll have experiences!

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u/F-ingRoppaSnoks 1 points 2024-01-29 18:53

You can always come up with your own terms and names for what you experience then check the books for what Mr. Castaneda was either told or coined names for things so as to communicate effectively with people who subscribe to his terminology. People may not like this opinion and disagree and say this is something else entirely but i think this kind of demystifies the general process

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf

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u/Ok-Assistance175 1 points 2024-01-29 19:28

Yep! You’re right about the disagreement part. That’s the where the real discipline required by this path shows up: have the patience to read crap you do not agree with; but don’t waste precious time.

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u/mathestnoobest 2 points 2024-02-11 00:20

i think that if this (Sorcery) isn't real, then nothing is.