IOB in sleeping Dreams

Hello. Tonight, I experienced sleep paralysis. When I opened my eyes, while paralyzed, I saw two women, one seated and the other standing, talking in front of me.

Initially, I was frightened and wanted to wake up. One of the women occasionally turned to look at me while I, paralyzed, continued to observe her. I decided to calm down, and with effort, I turned to the other side of the bed and sat up.

One of the women approached and, sitting cross-legged in front of me, as soon as I looked at her face, I noticed she had a man's face with bobbed hair and the shadow that a well-shaved beard leaves on the face.

I asked if she was an ally, and she answered yes. After that, I asked her name, and she said it was Minx. I was very surprised, and I told her (I don't remember if I asked her) that I wanted to ask her some questions. I asked if she had any advice on how to be quieter during the day, but she didn't answer; she turned her head to the side and raised her eyebrows, looking at me in silence. Then I asked if there was a way to lose the human form very quickly (both the human form and silence are topics that interest me for various reasons), but again, without responding, she remained silent.

At that point, the thought crossed my mind that allies and inorganic beings were almost always women, and since that person had a man's face, I thought she couldn't really be Minx. I got more agitated than usual and shouted at her that she wasn't an ally, pushing her aggressively to the edge of the bed.

Personally, I don't know why I got so angry; I don't exactly understand the reason, considering my reaction to be totally exaggerated (perhaps I was scared, and the idea of being deceived made me angry?).

Nevertheless, what was supposed to be Minx escaped and turned off the light in my room. Terrified, I tried to turn it back on, but she attempted to turn it off a couple of times until I woke up.

When I woke up, I immediately noticed that I was very silence, but I attributed this silence to a good night's sleep and the efforts I am making every day. I should mention that I focus on the darkroom and maintaining silence throughout the day, and I avoid dreaming because I read that it's a challenging path for us men and because I've noticed over time that certain dreams drain my energy and make me more nervous and less silent. So, when I realize I'm in a dream, in most cases, now, I wake up with an act of will, focusing on the intention to wake up.

That being said, this dream seemed very peculiar, and I wanted to ask: is it possible that it was really Minx? Or should I consider this dream as a fantasy?

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 5 points 2024-01-28 11:50

I don't know much about sorcery, but I think you should sleep with the lights off.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 7 points 2024-01-28 12:07

Would be of benefit to add some paragraph breaks to this.

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u/danl999 7 points 2024-01-28 12:40

Minx does men. Likes to pretend to be Cholita's "date" in a tuxedo.

Cholita spends hours getting ready to go out on many days, but then has no one to go out with that I'm aware of.

So Minx helps from time to time.

He also does little Irish boys.

But now that I think of it, only when Cholita is there.

And I've noticed that women tend to perceive their allies as men.

The Allies oblige with pretend sexual assaults, which are so vivid they're fully tactile.

Seems to be an obstacle most women will have to face if they take up womb dreaming.

I'm still working on that womb dreaming animation, but I ran into a snag trying to make an accurate version of one of Athina's Ally forms.

It's taking 4 characters combined as body parts, just to make the one.

Forcing me to watch another 20 tutorials before I can make it correctly.

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u/MaximumEntry8772 1 points 2026-04-23 13:47

Pretend sexual assaults? Interesting.

As a woman, I obstain from sex (2 years), but sometimes I mess around (it never results in full on sex, any form of it. but I am not made of stone and feel the feelings). After one such ocasion, I was lying in bed in the dark observing a swirl made of white light, spinning like a carousele. Suddenly I found myself sitting on a couch beside my coworker. He was speaking jibberish and swinging his legs like a jolly leprechaun. I realised I am dreaming and started screaming at him ARE YOU AN ALLY? DO YOU KNOW THINGS? WANNA PLAY?

The leprechaun stopped yapping and started shrinking until shaped like a fried egg, with a shiny middle, until he dissapeared into a shiny spark. I woke up in my bed, dissappointed it was just a dream, although a lucid one.

The following business week, every day was a sex dream that ended up in orgasm. On one ocasion I woke up after I managed to successfully beat off the attack. While fully awake, I orgasmed for no reason.

About a year ago or more, I had a *guy* with white skin and snake eyes, appearing in my room in a lucid dream. I call those lucid dreams, but they are not like when you suddenly realise you are dreaming. When you are in your room, or in your own bed, you just feel... different, not like in a dream.

So I tried to crawl away from this guy, but he had a strong gravity that sucked me toward him and he showed his face onto mine. He likes to take a form of my husband in my sleeping dreams to the point every time I see my husband in dreams I know it is *a demon*, that`s how he called himself, vaguely translated.

After their succesfull attacks I feel drained and angry. On discord, people (or IOBs) recommended *to masturbate and recapitulate it* (among actual good advices like recap of sex. partners) but in fact, masturbation is triggering the attacks in dreams.

So I was wondering, what the hell happened and why are they milking people? I was told those are IOBs but if so, why are they doing it?

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u/danl999 2 points 2026-04-23 14:08

Yep, that's a scout.

I don't believe they have any purpose other than to keep you from switching dreams.

Walking away changes the dream, so they prefer to keep you as close as possible by using whatever obsessions you currently have.

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u/MaximumEntry8772 1 points 2026-04-23 14:47

Thank you, Dan! While on it, I don`t switch dreams all right, straight away waking up in terror. I guess for them it is just a game, and an ironic one.

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u/danl999 4 points 2026-04-23 15:11

As best I can understand, there's so little overlap between them and us (meaning neither of us will ever understand the other, and our motivations are completely different), that whatever you perceive when interacting with them, asleep or awake, is really taking place at the level of the reality stream coming to you from the emanations.

I believe don Juan said they inject their own awareness into that stream.

COMING FROM the dark sea. At least, I don't recall it as being GOING TO.

There's a big difference.

And that they only influence what you perceive "coming back" from the bundle you're energizing (perceiving), maybe that explains why our interpretations of the result mostly come from us

It's the classic "evil clown" effect where if you're seriously practicing darkroom and see your first Ally floating along on a purple puff, if you were warned that the Allies like to pretend to be evil clowns you're more likely to see that than you would have been if you hadn't been warned.

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But with such limited access to us, it's a mistake to assume they have motivations we can understand.

Keep in mind, "the fliers" like only a certain kind of awareness, and use their "mind control" to steer us to feel sorry for ourselves as often as we can.

They don't like our energy when we stop doing that, so they stop consuming it once it rises above your ankles.

And eventually, just FYI, it rises up far enough that it can break free and circulate around the egg, as the "shiny outer coating", which makes magic 10 times easier.

But that's not related to what happens with our interactions, before that.

The fact is, inorganic beings like to sample our energy, but perhaps only certain ranges.

The fliers want self-pity.

The inorganic beings don't want self-pity energy. That's blue zone on the J curve.

Same as your double doesn't like that blue zone thinking.

Instead, what the inorganic beings want is red zone energy. Although they'll settle for green zone, which explains why Buddhists believe they're talking to demons during meditation.

It's not strong enough for them to manifest when your eyes are open and you aren't meditating, but the green zone does at least allow the Allies to show up as "visions".

Thus the Allies are very useful companions for beginner sorcerers.

Until they reach the orange zone, at which point they aren't helpful anymore.

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u/MaximumEntry8772 1 points 2026-04-23 15:19

Thank you! Digesting the info :)

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u/MaximumEntry8772 1 points 2026-04-23 15:22

To be honest, it is scary to percieve IOBs as Allies, the aspect of cooperating with a non-human creature with unclear intentions. To accept that is like jumping off a cliff into a bottom of snakes. Coming from a person thinking a gypsy cursed me when I was a teen.

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u/danl999 2 points 2026-04-23 16:31

Carlos went to Howard Lee to get healed.

Even though Howard's "Chinese Medicine" is very close to a total scam.

Carlos knew that. But likely he thought that Howard could "intend" people to heal.

Help him "jump grooves" by adding a little awareness to his need to be healed.

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u/enigmaticopirate 1 points 2024-01-30 13:01

Last night in my dream i was in a shower and another guy was there and i felt uncomfortable, then at a given moment this beautiful female appeared and grabbed me, we started embracing and kissing, i asked her where she was from, (can't recall her answer, then asked ner name, she said Daytone.... and then the dream ended and i was left wondering if she was an ally.