Question about trapped negative energy and "malevolent" forces.

So I've been coming to terms with some of my trauma etc lately and become very aware of where that negative energy tends to become trapped when doing tensegrity and recapping. I have had experiences with what I can only describe as demonic presences In the past and what has felt like attachment. I'm starting to realize and believe more and more that the negative thought forms and stuck energy that impede shifting awareness and assemblage and my lingering doubts and fears are what causes these perceived forces and entities or gives then form..
I might be answering my own question here...I guess what I am asking is Don Juan spoke of evil arrived long ago and I know it exists, but to the experienced sorcerer here, Is that something one has to contend with or is it simply made manifest through ones own doubt and fears?

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u/castaneda-ModTeam 1 points 2024-02-08 03:12

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u/Juann2323 1 points 2024-02-08 03:16

You need to study the Wiki more closely.

It seems you have been around for many months, so you probably don't have a real interest in sorcery.

You mixed many topics in your thinking. The inorganic beings, the fliers and the blue zone suffering.

Get serious and write a more organized post, with questions appropriate to the circumstances.

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u/TangerineJealous2195 2 points 2024-02-08 03:50

Roger Thank you I don't think I will write a more organized post I think it would be a better use of everyone's time for me to really appreciate what silent means.

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u/Logical-Cup1374 1 points 2024-02-08 03:33

I'm a beginner here and not perfectly intending to be a sorceror, specifically, but I want to see if I can be of assistance to you. Your question mirrors some of my own and this is what has helped me. My answers might also show you and others why such questions don't always spark good conversation or good answers from those more experienced here.

It's hard to tell. Some people describe what they see as other entities being a negative Influence on them. Encouraging bad feelings or frightening them. Others see that it is their own internal dialogue or phantom realities which influence them. It's hard to define reality because of how magnificent and unlimited it appears to be, when it isn't being "crunched" by our understanding.

But in either case it's hard to see the reality and intent inherent in the situation, unless you go boldly forth and attempt to "see" or interact or become more sensitive to what is taking place. We tend to just call them inorganic beings and you can probably assume, at the least, they desire to interact with you for their own purposes. In the case of it being your own energy/intent you're seeing or feeling, recapitulation and whatever else will stop you interfering with yourself, reclaim and redeploy any of that which is assailing you.

In all cases, not interfering with inaccurate descriptions and beliefs by acheiving silence and a clean link to intent, and going on your merry way, is the best method you can hope for, given our limited understanding of all of reality, and your lack of a friend in person who can reliably "see" what is affecting you, to achieve what you're looking for. Which is answers. Look at the J curve diagram and earnestly intend to get to silent knowledge. Just that journey will probably lead you to resolve whatever this is.

One day, if it is pertinent for you, you will know. Otherwise it's kind of like a monkey looking out at the forest, seeing a couple trees, and wondering about what those trees are fundamentally, worrying that the thorny branches falling off of them are specifically meant to assail you. That could be innacurate, I just don't want to encourage your paranoia. Seeing things in a certain way, rather than seeing things, is what we try to avoid. Something may be literally intending against YOU. Yourself or otherwise. And it might not even be bad for you. Like stepping on a thorn isn't necessarily bad for you. That pain and experience might show you something meaningful or help you in some way. It's better to assume you're not being attacked, unless something actually really bad happens. When something actually really bad happens. You'll be motivated to do whatever makes it right. Regardless of how well you understand. Getting to silent knowledge is making it right from the get go. Because we should be able to easily do that. It shouldn't be such a challenge to just exist in peace and genuinely interact with the universe.

Who knows. Again. In that example, you just see the tree, feel how it affects you. Either way it is intent and clarity which give you the ideal response to whatever that tree is. Because your sense of understanding is very good at coming up with descriptions and maybe very accurate ideas, not exploring reality by what you know and see and want. When you don't know something and there are no concrete variables to work with, It's better to not sift through idea after idea trying to define it, solidifying a potentially detrimental worldview, which primary purpose might literally be to keep you from "seeing", in the case of your own counter intent, or using the fliers mind, which will do anything to keep you from all of your energy and carrying out pure intent.

That is, If fliers are what we think we are.

See what I mean?

This is why it's better to not over think it. Tomorrow you might be able to frame this question and present an experience which could help us all understand in a more useful way. It's more likely that will happen if you earnestly exist and do things, rather than think and worry.

Remember how Carlos constantly over thought "weird" experiences, because he desperately wanted to understand? It didn't help him much did it? As a matter of fact, Don Juan constantly had to steer him out of that! What helped him was when the conversation stirred something in him, or when he was having cool experiences. That's when he gained more knowledge, AND personal power.

Now as to why this doesn't inspire concrete answers. If we tried to tell you exactly what is happening, it would inspire a solid worldview, and demotivate you practicing and seeing for yourself!

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u/TangerineJealous2195 1 points 2024-02-08 03:46

Well I appreciate your words.. Juan just scolded me for being sophomoric as well... I appreciate both and feel silly, for seeking an answer to something that I intuitively knew couldn't be given to me by someone else....and also that even asking the question really is a manifestation of that same doubt or perceived interference experienced while practicing.... geeesh amateur...next time I have a question I think it would serve me to instead focus on silence.

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u/Logical-Cup1374 1 points 2024-02-08 07:21

You got this. Be at ease and simply judge by results. Your socialization has got ya but it has all of us. If it didn't we'd be doing a lot better. Undoing that "shit" is what has us all motivated. Because as soon as you silence the dialogue even a little bit you reclaim energy and start acting with much more sincerity and power and closeness to reality, and you encounter the problem of being like that in society and even here on the internet. Being like that period, because that dialogue is constantly trying to make you feel safe and guarntee your life and plans into the future. It's a pain in the ass.

It's good that you care and feel frustrated by the internal dialogue and your.. belief matrix, I'm gonna start saying that, taking precedence over YOU.

Just don't let those emotions be louder than your desire to BE you, spinning up a frustrating story where you "cant". As best you can. Overtime you'll see all the ways It's robbing you, thats just another one of them. "Im not automatically doing better, im heavily socialized right now, with little focus and clarity, so I must be a fuck up". Sweetheart no. Its as easy as what they call shifting your assemblage point. Which is an utterly natural movement. So easy. Like breathing or going into a sleep state.

It looks nigh impossible to immediately do it because of all the ways we have habitually shut ouself out or impede because of all the finicky little unnecessary moods, thoughts, inclinations, judgements, villifications, etc, we have derived in our path through and in the intent and maladaption of society. Learning to derive satisfaction and continuation from being like that, encouraging the power of those blocks over us. A strung out shitty story. Not the story we create in tandem with reality. NOT the story we create in tandem with reality. We've been taught our whole lives, magic is too good to be true. But really, how we've been taught to live, is too boring to be true.

As much as you can, encourage your physical circumstances to help you in these regards. Freedom and acceptance and joy and the space to allow for incredible power and magic, without that being "weird". Love it. More than you love being fake for sad people who would be amazed to see such things. Immediately. Right before their minds ruin it for them.

Parents judging you. Not wanting to cause conflicts or get fired at work. Not wanting to feel like your "changing" (you're not, you're becoming more real. It's the internal dialogue that tries to "change" you), not wanting to feel your feelings, especially really really good or bad ones, wanting to feel love for everything around you, or needing to go clear space and let your body go through something that feels severe because you adopted a fucked up desire you're recognizing, or moving into being a way that's utterly magnificent that you've become that you really want to maintain, causing you to just want to start singing or dancing or playing, relating with reality in some way you've never imagined, but feels so incredibly good and real and right, you don't want the opinions of others or your own unwillingness to even consider stopping you. But then it does. And you go "damn, I can have that, I can REALLY have feelings and experiences like that, its REAL, why does it leave, where does it go?"

As an example if you see what I mean?

We voluntarily shove it out EVERYTIME. ANY other explanation nullifies the FACT of your freedom, power, ability to shift and maintain your assemblage point, and do exactly what you want to do, with anything and everything in eternity all around you.

These practices are something concrete and exciting you can do with or without motivation and energy and clear intent, to get you in a better place, a freer more whole place, away from what's robbing you of, quite literally, reality and yourself.