About visuals

Hello there !
About the puff colors posted afew days ago,
I had a sleep dream a month ago, I was instructed by someone in my dream about seeing in second attention, don't know if he/it was a phantom or IOB or a sorcerer or just my psyche ! (Appeared like my cousin LOL),
He/it showed six type of visuals (I could see it in my dream exactly like in darkroom when I sober and awake),
I don't remember exact order except last one,
One was yellowish inside with green in it's surrounding aura,
Inside greenish-gray and blueish in surrounding,
Red with orangish,
Pink (magneta) with greenish-blue,
Purple with blueish,
And the last type wasn't like the others, It was like seeing through a kaleidoscope ( I saw a giraffe in the kaleidoscope ), (see them in first person view and saw myself outside of visual screen standing near the one who explain them in third person)
This is a text from art of dreaming page 45 :
"He explained that if the assemblage point does not become stationary, there is no way that we
can perceive coherently. We would experience then a kaleidoscope of disassociated images. This is the reason the old sorcerers put as much emphasis on dreaming as they did on stalking. One art
cannot exist without the other, especially for the kinds of activities in which the old sorcerers were involved."

Also I do tensegrity in sleeping dreams, is it my dream body that see these visuals and who was it that explain them? (Am I doing some steps wrong or just losing my mind?)

Another thing is that with psychedelics (marijuana, mushrooms, acid, mescaline) the visuals become very vivid ( see them even in daylight ), and comes some geometric patterns moving like gifs !
Question is that how should I fix the AP in those states so that I don't have to use psychedelics? (Anything except tensegrity)

Sorry for long text, just feeling can't find out all this by myself now,

Appreciate for your guides.

12 Comments

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u/Juann2323 1 points 2024-03-21 20:49

I'll leave this for you guys to remember.

Ordinary dreams from months ago and substances go better in Chat or in the Discord server.

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u/benzhamin98 1 points 2024-03-21 20:52

Yes but unfortunately I don't have the stable account and can't write in chat reddit

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u/Juann2323 1 points 2024-03-21 21:00

Ok. Next time try in "The Nagual" subreddit or join the Cleargreen chat.

They talk about such topics too.

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u/benzhamin98 1 points 2024-03-21 21:01

I deleted the post, how is it that you can reply ?!

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u/Juann2323 1 points 2024-03-21 21:31

I see dead posts!

I see dead posts!

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u/benzhamin98 1 points 2024-03-21 21:37

Well shit, it's been 20 minutes that I'm obsessed with physical and astral dead, ap is not in pleasant position

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u/Juann2323 1 points 2024-03-21 21:45

Substances confuse you.

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u/benzhamin98 1 points 2024-03-21 21:48

Last mushroom i ate was 3 months ago, but yes you right, don't know just I want to be in absolute void where I don't perceive anything

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u/Juann2323 2 points 2024-03-21 21:55

Well, I recently heard an interview of "Brandom", a guy from private classes.

He told that when he first met Carlos, he was so excited to discuss his ideas relating sorcery and psychology.

But Carlos didn't let him say a word, and sent him to "raise his energy", by doing some Magic Passes teached in that same moment.

Carlos probably 'saw' that interaction was hopeless for both.

You might be in the same situation with this subreddit.

Use the tools, get better and come back.

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u/benzhamin98 1 points 2024-03-21 21:57

Yes that makes sense, thank you ;)

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u/benzhamin98 1 points 2024-03-21 21:50

I'm in the pitfall of self delusion, don't know what to do or maybe i do

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u/Ok-Assistance175 4 points 2024-03-21 20:51

I appreciate that you recognize that your experiences are tainted by the usage of hallucinogens, and THC.
Sobriety is the key.
Also daily life tensegrity, recapitulation, are far more valuable than this tensegrity in sleeping dreaming that you describe- i have no idea what that is!