I'm gonna go straight to the point
Whenever I try meditations (normal meditations to quiet my mind, I am still working on this step) after I am in a totally calm mind there goes one heavy knock on my window, like a sparrow hitting to my window.
Why is this? Last time (2 yrs ago) I totally stopped doing it cause it rly scared me.
Tonight I did it again, and there it goes again.
My heart was pounding , I didn't show any fear, but just walked upstairs normally, came back under 2 minutes , I am fine now, but how should I stop being so scared. I won't quit this time, I rly want this. So I appreciate if you give me some tips on how to be more brave. And why is this??!!
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Search for "The Knock of the Spirit" in the books, or possibly on this sub.
I don't recall the extent to which it's been discussed in here, in posts and comments.
It's a very good sign. Just wait until you hear loud screaming.
Also make sure to look at for the visual phenomena like static, sparkles, afterimages, and stuff that will eventually turn into the puffs, which turn into other stuff.
Damn, are u serious? I guess I have a long way to go then, cuz if this happens now..I'm gonna die, but it's okay, I'm patient, I should first become more brave, I guess.
The bravery will come. Because nothing can actually physically hurt you.
It might just feel scary because of the normal instincts we have and it's a little outside of modern experience.
But eventually noises and stuff will not be an issue. Maybe you could intend for the noises you hear as you go deeper to be more pleasant, like chirping birds and hummingbirds and stuff, or whatever you like.
I've heard loud screaming multiple times, but probably only because I was okay with it and wasn't traumatized by it or anything. And I've been tactilely electrocuted by energy, but that's very far along and probably won't happen if you're intending more positive stuff you won't have aversions to.
electrocuted implies death or serious injury, just shocked I'm guessing.
Like tactile sensation of a large voltage of electricity shooting into the body, especially by the shoulders and head.
I have also heard the loud screaming, and have felt like I was being electrocuted. Separate occasions. What would it mean if someone touched you and then you felt like you were being electrocuted? I've never heard anyone else discuss this before. Quite interested in your thoughts on that. I often feel like I'm blindly figuring things out, too slowly I worry.
The loud screaming in my case was the IOB local to this subreddit, Minx. I assume in your case it was also an IOB, though maybe it could have something to do with the vocalization audio part of the brain being overloaded with energy, and the main thing that it associates with that or has an archetype is screaming energy.
With your electrocution it's just energy, like an interaction with another person you were sensitive to for whatever reason.
You'll probably figure a lot of this out as you get deeper.
Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate you taking the time. I realize it's such a big question to ask. I got a bit excited there when I saw your earlier comment mentioning those two things.
You could get scared or unhappy from your own fear.
Are you sure? This is what u/danl999 says. Which seems to me, that there ARE some rules to be safe (and not get kidnapped for example).
That's not really a problem unless you get to that point. But follow the rules not to get kidnapped he lists.
Well, how do you know when someone will reach that point after their first encounter, maybe it will happen right away, maybe a week later. In any way it means that your previous statement "nothing can attack you in any meaningful way" is incorrect.
For example, there is also mentioning from u/danl999 that one should not have any sexual interactions with IOB, which means there is also another possible danger, so there is another safety rule which needs to be told and seen by new people. Idk how to trust your words about safety, since i've read too many statements here that contradict that statements of yours...
So then go away.
No one in here cares if you learn or not.
Certainly no one in here can afford to have to feel sorry for someone, and baby them.
"Poor Baby me", is precisely why the entire world has no magic.
Feeling sorry for themselves!
That's what blocks the real thing by driving your energy body away. It can't stand all the needless self-pity and grief!
And imagine if we had 10 like you in here. Daily having to reassure people who won't do any work anyway, and will get bored and go do "Astral Travel" in the long run.
This is not a business, unlike everywhere else.
Imagine if you wanted to learn to skydive, but were giving the instructors a hard time about how you might get killed.
They also would tell you to go away! Politely, because they're a business. But they wouldn't want you around.
I believe, you are confused by the eagerness of fake magic system leaders and religions to be "helpful" and reassuring.
But all they really want is to help you remove some money from your wallet, and give it to them, in exchange for some reassuring words.
Which they can give, because they don't actually have anything meaningful.
Pretending isn't hazardous, except to your happiness.
Which other "magical" systems clearly don't care about.
So go be "safe".
I think it is possible to learn magic and follow the safety rules, which you yourself wrote in this subreddit. Therefore, I pointed out a contradiction — it cannot be absolutely safe because if it were, there wouldn't be such safety rules. And that does not mean that it is bad. There are safety instructions in factories and even on microwaves, the latter of which we use every day.
I don't understand why you need to be so aggressive, blasting me with assumptions about my persona — they are not correct. But okay, you do you.
Do you think that being taken away to a different world is necessarily an "attack"?
In quote there is a straight word "kidnap". From there on you can answer this question yourself.
Not really... the old sorcerers would love to be "kidnapped" for example. In fact, it's one of the ways that you can use to live for a million years.
If you want to be a new seer, then yes, you'd want to avoid being kidnapped, but it would still be an amazing thing to enter the inorganic beings' world.
Listen, there's a difference between kidnapping and voluntary consent to a marvelous journey into another world. And in the quote by Dan that I mentioned, it's clearly stated about some deceptive path, which, accordingly, is considered as kidnapping in a negative sense. I don't see any further point in nitpicking the definition of words, as it neither refutes nor proves any of the "safety rules" discussion points. Good night.
Because we've been here 5 years and 9000+ have come through during that time, so that people and their behavior have begun to repeat.
Something sorcery warns you about. That is in fact a fundamental principle of sorcery.
How the past keeps repeating.
Carlos also warned me in private classes over and over, about how you come under attack by "the fliers", when you're making energetic progress.
A specialized form of inorganic being, which ALREADY controls you.
You.
Star Wars gives you the clue how "the fliers" can do that. Our own Soledad the witch is almost surely influential in that movie's plot.
The fliers just do the Jedi mind trick on whoever is around near to this subreddit (or near to Carlos back in the day), to get them to cause trouble.
Sorcery requires moving away from self-pity or it's impossible, so the fliers have a chance to destroy things, if they can cause self-pity to increase in the learning population. That drives the energy body of students away.
So that they can break the flow of energetic mass.
Crazy as it sounds, Carlos would point that out each time, and even that it tended to come in 3s, like we have today.
We have a new "warner guy" (you), and another "drug man" type.
I forget who the third was today, but likely because it was mild or over on another of our social media.
You're assuming that this is like any other place where the leaders never learn about who comes to their "system", because all they want is the money.
And they're expected to be polite and not call out shit when they see it.
But that's not this place! We only succeed, when a new person succeeds. And that's very rare.
It's also valuable for everyone to see what's bad behavior, and what's good behavior.
So that even those behaving badly are useful.
You can tell that the other systems out there such as Buddhism are fraudulent, partly because they have absolutely no understanding about how people learn, or don't learn.
Since they have nothing to teach anyway.
We on the other hand work for free, very hard day in and day out (I got up at 3AM so I could work on this, and then go to my full time job afterwards), and our only reward is if someone learns.
And it's a huge negative when we have people who like to complain about things they don't understand, before they've even done any work to see real magic.
You have no idea where you are.
Please go away.
Or prove me wrong by working hard and changing.
How funny— I've also read here that you personally don't believe flyers exist. But okay.
I've also read that you don't care about the safety of an individual, believing you have an infinite supply of them. You also believe that talking about dangers will scare people away, so you don't want that. You think I am trying to scare people away by "warning" them — in fact, the opposite is true.
If we follow your diving example, there are actually safety rules, and the one who follows them dives successfully, while the one who is scared about diving and the dangers it brings simply doesn't dive. Can you apply the same logic here?
For example:
1) You said, we shouldn't have sex with IOB. Why such warning?
2) How to not get kidnapped?
3) I've heard, it is very bad idea to eat something they offer to you. Is it a myth from fairytales or we are not advised to do that?
What do you suppose would happen if we had 50 in here like you?
We'd lose the place.
Go away.
We don't need attention seeking trouble makers who have no actual interest in learning. But are desperate to get noticed anyway.
Next you'll likely turn it into a "Church of Castaneda". So you can just "believe" and continue to soak up attention while philosophizing about it, without ever getting around to doing any work.
That's what "warners" do.
In the end, it seems to be an angry superiority trip coupled with laziness.
Masquerading as "concern".
You dropped this, king 💊. My “concern” is your own quotes, after which you exploded like bomb full of shit trying to hit essays minimum word count.
If you would have 50 people like me, that place would be entirely different.
I translated video for this subreddit, I’m doing another project for materials provided here, my room is darkroom, and, most importantly, I’ve had my first womb dreaming experience 4 days ago.
But it seems that you would rather eat your own dirty sock then admit that you are wrong. That’s okay tho, because your opinion does not change anything, and if you refuse to answer my questions later, there are always another accounts.
See ya in the other threads.
Just decide you want to experience. The rest will take care of its self. Intent.
I feel like you're fearmongering.
I don't think the fear is good.
Maybe it's
Uncle Barrington
💀💀💀, this helped me tho, I'm gonna imagine it's uncle barrington from now on.
I used to get a knock on the door.
Or even the doorbell would ring!
After the first 3 times, I figured out it had a "different quality" to it.
It was "too perfect".
Like a computer generated sound. Not like an actual knock or doorbell ring, which has acoustical flaws and tiny echos you can hear if you could compare that to pure computer audio.
So I learned to tell when the sound was "too good", and I didn't get up to go see.
But initially when I ignored it, the next time it would be even louder.
Like someone was angrily knocking!
I miss those days...
There's nothing better than spooky fright, for moving the assemblage point.
Enjoy fear! I mean, come on...
You have no magic.
And you're afraid when you do???
Makes no sense to me.
Just resign yourself to be bitten in half by a horrible demon.
And trust me, they'll threaten to do that. Or worse.
Visibly! Standing right there in front of you.
But if you accept that you're doing to die a supernatural death, then you have nothing left to fear!
These days however, my "energy body" (our double who runs around in dreams, but can be made to come out into the real copy of the world alongside us), wakes me up at night if I'm too tired to get up myself.
It's not so crass as to just "knock" on something.
It brings me FABULOUS MAGICAL GIFTS!
I mean, stuff that would make even Aladdin, with his genie, jealous.
Except, I know better.
It won't be there in the morning.
Might get it to stick around a few hours, even all night.
Very rarely.
But it's only present as long as your double sticks around.
If you can break off a "puff" of him and make the magical object yourself, it can last up to 2 days.
Welcome to the world of the real!
You've been living in a dream...
We have that backwards, which is what causes our fear.
Fear of leaving the Matrix?
That movie was popular in Carlos' private classes, even though there were only trailers for it at the time.
I firmly believe it inspired the shiny black spandex outfits the "energy trackers" wore, along with their dark sunglasses.
It was theorized that the Wachowski family was mixed up with former apprentices of don Juan.
And the movie hints at our sorcery.
Just as Star Wars does.
And "Walker, Texas Ranger".
The lineage had a fortune since it was 408 years old and all accumulated wealth was handed down to the next generation.
They old it off when don Juan left, and Soledad used it to influence movies in Hollywood.
Her contribution to the same effort we're making in this subreddit.
For free by the way. No one in here wants your money.
Don't fail to notice that. You won't find it true anywhere else.
Even if they claim it is.
OH MY GOD
wow!
thank you!!!
This was EXACTLY what I needed,
This, helped me alot!!!
Is it a bad sign? A brown cuckoo dove? It got away from a cat attack allegedly , and crashed to my window that night, I found it's body today...
Man, I have no idea...
Cholita would likely be burning incense and making offerings.
Or blaming me.
I find out about here offerings because of the incense smell, or because I look down in a trash bin and see a $1 bill torn to pieces, with a note.
If you're worried, get witchy!
And maybe dig a little grave for the bird, with a gravestone?
Cholita had some of those.
Except, she bewitched the birds and caused their demise.
So maybe the little graves were just a warning to the other birds, to stay out of her favorite spot in the yard.
It seems trivial to me, but one of the women told me that birds, especially blue jays, can be quite horrible.
My mom got in my house and got rid of it before I know it!!!! what should I do? How and what should I offer?
You could just go feed some birds. And explain the situation to them as they eat.
You'll be stuck with pigeons or ducks I'm afraid.
Crows don't stick around to listen, unless you give them those vienna sausages from a can.
I did some offerings, some chocolate, (thts all I had now, it's midnight here)
Lit two white candles and I did incents too, and spilled salt on door steps.
I will feed them tomorrow, they always come here in my back yard in the morning.
Better ask ChatGPT about chocolate. Might be bad for birds.
Peanuts are likely the safest food to offer them, but the smaller birds don't seem to like having to break them to bits.
Just be careful not to give them food which makes them ill.
Although...
I bought Cholita a large fountain for her garden around 4 years ago.
The idea was that we could learn to find the red lines among the emanations (you can indeed find those), and then she could fly by grabbing onto those.
And use the fountain to mark where to land in case she went too high into the air.
Back then she was more rational.
Which I suppose is an odd thing to say in the same comment where actually flying is mentioned...
After the fountain was installed and filled with water, I showed her the little white tablets you could put in weekly to keep the water from growing algae.
But I warned her, it would make the birds ill when they drank from it.
She said, "Good!" and grabbed the tablets from my hand.
No I offered the chocolate to the spirits and buried it, of course chocolate is bad for birds. I will buy bird food tomorrow. Or maybe just some rice and bread.
How come everyone but me knew that chocolate was bad for many animals?
I used to feed See's dark chocolate candy to our family pet basset hound to see how much she could consume before she had to go lay down and pass out.
At 5 years old. It was a "scientific investigation".
Oh dear god 😦
Is he/she still alive??
I love animals, I have had many animals, birds, cats, rabbits, a dog, turtles, colins, a sparrow, a crow, a goat ( but for 2 days) , even once I had a lizard lol.
And I always made sure to read many articles abt them.😁 I am just in LOVE with them, but I decided not to have pets anymore, cuz I get too attached and when they get sick or die, a part of my soul just goes with them 😔. Now I am just making acquaintances w them outside so I wouldn't be attached that much, all the cats in my neighborhood know me and run to me whenever they see me. 🥺😍
That old dog use to escape the house and run around the neighborhood, terrorizing everyone by being in the way.
Her favorite trick was to look for a lawn which had just been fertilized with cow manure (it was the 60s), and roll around in it like a pig.
She came home smelling like festering cow pies.
Eventually she got hit by a car due to not paying any attention to traffic when she escaped, and while only half dead my mom ordered me to dig a big hole in the backyard, and bury her alive.
I tried to argue, but she insisted the dog was dead.
Despite it's head turning to gasp for air the whole time.
My mom was 50% paranoid schizophrenic, with Cholita being 99.5% strength.
Techno's mom is the possibly the same.
Maybe paranoid schizophrenic mothers are good motivation for people to want to escape the river of shit?
They tend to produce hard working children who are valued as employees.
Oh , I'm sorry, that must have been really hard to do. 😔 I once had to kill a baby chicken cause she was not dying or getting better and was in pain, my heart still hurts whenever I remember it 💔 . Yes most mothers in previous generations were really hard on their children. Who's Cholita? I have not been here for that long, I still don't know anyone.
Cholita is a witch who read one of Carlos' books, went up into the mountains of Mexico to try peyote, and was spotted by spies of Carlos up there.
He imported her to Los Angeles, to work for those he told her to.
She learned primarily from Florinda.
When Carlos was dying he started pairing off men and women.
I was supposed to pair off with Florinda in some way no one ever explained to me in detail.
Except that Carlos had made me celibate, so I said, "No" to the offer.
So later Cholita showed up, claiming Carlos wanted me to marry her.
20 years later she went insane, became homeless, and I took her in.
Only to find, she can levitate objects, be in 2 places at once (visibly), walk through solid walls, float into the air 2 feet, and lift me up by the chin with one finger.
There's no worse companion than Cholita. If she even speaks to me when I get home, and isn't hiding for months, she just hurls insults my way.
Except, she does real magic!!!
When she feels like it...
Oh , wow. Isn't no way for these kind of cases to feel better and heal? Tht's rly sad
Medications can help. But no, even Zuleica and Zoila from the books of Carlos and the witches (and Josefina for that matter) remained crazy until the end.
If the lineages couldn't cure them, I doubt anyone else can.
It probably requires an entire re-wire of the brain! From what I've seen, it's an organic error in the layout of the horizontal connections in the brain.
Which doesn't effect the double! So their doubles are pure power, having far less tonal rationality holding them back from re-interpreting things in a new way.
Way, way out there in Silent Knowledge, you start to see the building blocks of "reality", which comes from our expectations and sense of what makes sense.
But even stuff that doesn't make sense is real enough for seers, and so being "sane" actually just limits you.
Cholita seems a little better though, and I keep seeing letters from a government medical service in her mail.
Last night she drove in my car for the first time in years, to pick up a rental car. Her car can't be taken to Los Angeles, because she doesn't maintain it and the registration has expired. She refuses to let me fix all that.
But last night she even laughed at the jokes the rental guy was making about having to wait in line for the bathroom, in his own home. Where he lives alone.
She can probably identify with that for real.
I don't believe I've seen Cholita laugh in 4 years.
Medications can help. But no, even Zuleica and Zoila from the books of Carlos and the witches (and Josefina for that matter) remained crazy until the end.
If the lineages couldn't cure them, I doubt anyone else can.
It probably requires an entire re-wire of the brain! From what I've seen, it's an organic error in the layout of the horizontal connections in the brain.
Which doesn't effect the double! So their doubles are pure power, having far less tonal rationality holding them back from re-interpreting things in a new way.
Way, way out there in Silent Knowledge, you start to see the building blocks of "reality", which comes from our expectations and sense of what makes sense.
But even stuff that doesn't make sense is real enough for seers, and so being "sane" actually just limits you.
Cholita seems a little better though, and I keep seeing letters from a government medical service in her mail.
Last night she drove in my car for the first time in years, to pick up a rental car. Her car can't be taken to Los Angeles, because she doesn't maintain it and the registration has expired. She refuses to let me fix all that.
But last night she even laughed at the jokes the rental guy was making about having to wait in line for the bathroom, in his own home. Where he lives alone.
She can probably identify with that for real.
I don't believe I've seen Cholita laugh in 4 years.
My mother would frequently be in a state which she called "unreality."
It wasn't until adulthood, and after reading the books of Castaneda, that I understood that it was her way of describing being in one of her hyper-inner-dialogue states....where so much of her attention was fixated on her manifold anxiety and neurosis/delusions that only a fraction of it was left to uphold the solidity of the world around her.
And thus, to her, it was "unreal."
So yeah, half of my assemblage point position modeling was decidedly out of the mainstream as a child, and only balanced by my father's calm rationality.
I feel strange things touching me sometimes while I gaze, I figure if I am doing this might as well have fun with it :)
I appreciate you posting this. I tend to get frightening, semi-awake dreams shortly after I begin seriously thinking about consciousness, attention. I've usually gotten scared off and drown myself in distractions soon after. But I think you have the right approach - if we want magic, we have to be willing to get it. As don Juan put it, we can't afford _not_ to try.
An allied tries to make new friend?
it was a pigeon that got away from a cat attack allegedly ...
I don't go there that often , so I didn't see it sooner...