The Witches of Star Wars

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For those who didn't notice, don Yuan = Yoda, and the Jedi are sorcerers. From a more ancient clan.

A coincidence? No! Although it's been scrubbed from the internet, the subreddit has an article where the writers admit they got their idea from the books of Carlos.

But more than that, we know that Soledad the witch moved to Los Angeles along with many of the apprentices of don Juan, and used some left over lineage wealth to influence movies. Her motto was "money for movies".

So one can't help but notice, we can do nearly all of what the Jedi do.

Levitating a pear during a meal like Anakin did?

I've seen that, in a dinner setting.

And the way Yoda gazes up and can see anywhere in time and space, is what Silent Knowledge is!

So why are witches now showing up in Star Wars?

Conspiracy theory: Soledad still has influence in some odd way.

The witches of Star Wars are women who yield "the force". Except, they don't care if it's dark, or light. They use whatever power they can get.

Sounds like a witch to me...

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u/1bir 1 points 2024-05-06 13:32

Although it's been scrubbed from the internet

Even if the link has been down for years, there's a good chance wayback machine has a backup. (But you do need the original link to find it.)

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u/danl999 2 points 2024-05-06 14:05

I need to go look for old google street view maps of Los Angeles, around Dance Home. In case may animator agrees to copy Dance Home for me.

Hasn't gotten back to me yet on that one. I just hope he isn't religious, and is slowly deciding it's a sin to help us.

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u/1bir 1 points 2024-05-06 14:13

Oh IDK if old google map views got archived

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u/millirahmstrudel 8 points 2024-05-06 20:37

there is a post in the sub from 5 years ago "The Wanderling on Yoda". the wanderling has a website where he writes about castaneda and star wars. he found a citation in the book "Empire Building - The Remarkable Real-life Story of Star Wars" from gerry jenkins. there is also paragraph about star wars in the wiki.

this book can currently be borrowed for free (for 1 hour) on the internet archive with a free account:
https://archive.org/details/empirebuildingre00jenk

relevant pages with keyword "Castenada" (he was written in the book with a spelling error)
are on page 37 and 59. i made screenshots of these pages and i can post them here, but i'm not sure if there would be a potential conflict with copyrights.

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u/1bir 1 points 2024-05-07 07:13

I think you could post these pages without problems (fair use, and the entire book is out on the interwebz already).

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 2 points 2024-05-07 07:23

Plus, even at the library I think you're allowed to copy more than two pages and since no one here makes money from this, we're good to go.

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u/millirahmstrudel 4 points 2024-05-07 13:27

ok, here are the screenshots. i have to put them in two separate comments. reddit allows just one picture to be uploaded to a comment.
page 37 from the book "Empire Building - The Remarkable Real-life Story of Star Wars" from Gerry Jenkins:

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u/millirahmstrudel 3 points 2024-05-07 13:27

page 59 from the book "Empire Building - The Remarkable Real-life Story of Star Wars" from Gerry Jenkins:

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u/aumuaum 3 points 2024-05-07 04:56

I think you put a little too much emphasis on the star wars connection. I mean yes it is somewhat common knowledge that Lucas was influenced by Casteneda in his ideas about 'the Force', especially. Maybe Soledad had something to do with that, who knows. But how far does the analogy really carry, or in other words how much of Castaneda's actual sorcery practices are really portrayed in George Lucas' sci-fi, hero's journey, WWII-in-space saga?

I'm sure you know that there are a lot of movies that have similar themes and portray sorcery and/or magic in various ways.

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u/danl999 6 points 2024-05-07 13:59

All I know is, if they have some magic, I can easily figure out how to do that.

That's not so with other magical themed movies. Their magic is "unrealistic".

More like "the superman effect". Pretend magic, perhaps Sufism style.

For example, the instant I saw Ren and Rey remote viewing each other, I remembered that Pablito or Nestor had seen the other apprentices coming down the road, too far away to see with the physical eyes.

I also remembered Carlos seeing remotely, in detail. In private class.

So I tried it, and it worked! I got to watch cholita by the same method as ren and rey.

Visibly! Wide awake.

Cholita caught me, and stopped it.

And there are many other things in there which have the same perfect connection to our sorcery.

Yoda remote viewing anywhere in time and space is another. Recently they've even added Ahsoka picking up objects, to get a vision of where the object has been.

The way la Gorda did with the Toltec artifact, so that she gott attacked b y the old seers, traveling across time.

There's more things like that than I can count.

But, i suppose it could be coincidence.

Or, it could be someone tinkering with the writers, the same way the fliers tinker with us.

Via "Jedi mind trick" type activity.

The fliers do that to us! We know that for a fact.

Still, I suppose my Star Wars conspiracy theories are a bit tedious.

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u/aumuaum 1 points 2024-05-07 18:00

Well if you say that the magic in star wars is closer to your experience than other things, then ok. I'll take your word on it.

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u/FlowerStalker 1 points 2024-05-13 02:13

I love the star wars theories. Having grown up with it playing in my home nonstop, it's deep in my psyche. Everytime I learn something new for myself, I can see the moment in star wars that showed the same principle. Don't stop.

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u/danl999 2 points 2024-05-13 03:47

I saw some more Star Wars analogies earlier tonight watching Disney.

But some of them can only be noticed if you judge the "version" of magic we do, from direct experience.

That's what makes Star Wars so hard to explain.

They have the exact same "flavor" of magic.

Other movies are just random magic.

Dr. Strange, just does anything that sounds cool.

It's unrealistic. Not that you couldn't duplicate anything you see with him, but the amount of time to learn a specific thing as well as he does it, and the arbitrariness of it, makes that very unrealistic

1000 lifetimes is how long it would take, to do what he does.

And you wouldn't actually have gotten as far as you could have, if you didn't bother and just took what came next.

Perhaps the wisest words in Star Wars, which puzzle me no end because they're so true of our own sorcery, are "Pass on what you have learned!"

Excellent advice for our community.

When you pass it on, the force becomes your ally for sure.

You'll actually see it happen.

But making up nonsense intellectual bullshit is the far opposite of that.

That means you've given into the dark side, and taken the easy path to egotism.

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u/FlowerStalker 1 points 2024-05-13 04:05

So I work with little kids and make them do balancing challenges with me all the time. I sneak in Tensegrity moves as it does activate them physically. I don't say anything about it though. Just egg them on with silliness. Would that count as passing it on?

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u/danl999 4 points 2024-05-13 11:50

I don't know. We're all new at this.

And it would take very skilled "seeing" to figure that out.

On the other hand, if I'm correct, Soledad had the idea to influence small things we perceive, in order to "loosen things up" for sorcery viewpoints.

And we know that Juan Tuma, and most likely Vicente, did those "Mescalito" peyote ceremonies.

Possibly a business venture like the "Men of Knowledge", since their peyote ceremonies actually produced repeatable magic.

But obviously they also wanted people to be aware of what's available to us.

Just don't turn into the born again Christian type, brainwashing the kids.

As Carlos famously said, "Leave the children alone."

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u/FlowerStalker 2 points 2024-05-13 15:48

No it's nothing like that. I'm just a swim coach. They work with me for a 20 minute lesson then move on with their life. I have found that if I can make them balance and stress their body on their own they take it as the ultimate challenge. then when they physically give out they will listen and do the swim move I need them to learn.

But in that moment of balance I make them do certain moves that make it harder for them. Sometimes I will have a group of 6 kids all balancing on one foot with their knee up circling their raised foot while holding their arms up in front of them. While they're doing it I will make them squint their eyes to look for sparkles and twist their whole body side to side while balancing on their foot. They all get into the balancing poses because they want to be better than their friends, but very quickly it becomes super quiet because they all have to shut up in order to balance properly. They have to focus on themselves.

I tell them in order to be ready for action, they have to be in control of their emotions. In order to do that they have to be in control of their body and be aware of their surroundings. I try to make it as practical and pragmatic as I possibly can.

Most kids only work with me for a couple of months before their parents move them on to the next sport. So I try to give them a foundation of physical control over their own selves.

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u/danl999 5 points 2024-05-13 16:30

Interesting that the latest star wars have people standing on one foot and balancing, to practice using "the force"!

Another of my "Star Wars conspiracy" theories.

The way they teach people to learn to use the force.

It's tensegrity!

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u/millirahmstrudel 1 points 2025-06-03 00:20

i recently watched disney's "the acolyte" and the witch "mother aniseya" said something to her 2 daughters, which reminded me about intent. then she showed her powers with a movement which looked liked a part of pandora's box.

the acolyte s01e03, at \~6m45s:
"All living things are connected by the same Thread. A Thread woven through all of existence. Some call it a Force and claim to use it. But we know the Thread is not a power you wield.
Pull the Thread. Change everything. It ties you to your destiny. It binds you to others."

photo of screen at 8m8s (screenshots were black and didn't work):

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see animation of pandora's box for comparison at 0m13s https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/12hm49q/raw_clip_of_pandoras_box/

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u/danl999 3 points 2025-06-03 11:49

Star Wars writers seem to keep drawing from our sorcery.

It's surprising.

In the early episodes when Carlos was so popular he was on the cover of Time magazine, it was obvious why they'd modeled "the force" after our magic.

But how that keeps going is surprising.

I often get techniques by watching Star Wars, and seeing some new magic.

Cholita and I were doing the remote viewing thing for a while, until I told Cholita's tonal copy, and she blocked it.

Never tell a witch if their double is practicing magic with you.

They can put a stop to it.

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u/millirahmstrudel 4 points 2026-01-26 17:24

while searching for nestor i found a little info about soledad:

from "Castaneda Compendium - All Books, Notes & Periodicals.pdf", p1256, body mind spirit magazine - december 1992, Interviewed by Ken Eagle Feather and Carol Kramer:
also from https://sustainedaction.1109d1b.netsolhost.com/chronologies/florinda-donner/

"BMS: What happened to the people Carlos Castaneda wrote about in his books?

Donner: ".. The women are equally involved in pursuits of this nature. Another example: Lydia wants to find a sorcerers' cure for AIDS, slowly emptying a sick person's body from the virus invasion by transmitting it to a tree. La Gorda had an attack of such intense self-importance in 1985 that she believed she was the only one of us who could lead us to freedom. She died in a futile attempt to reach beyond her energetic capabilities. Soledad is extremely well situated as a movie producer. She uses her arts in sorcery to gather money for her projects. Her motto is: Dollars from any source for movies. .."

from "Castaneda Compendium - All Books, Notes & Periodicals.pdf", p1344, July 23-25, 1993 - Florinda, Taisha, Carol and the Chacmools? first workshop, at the Rim Institute in Arizona:

".. Florinda also claimed they (the witches) had just returned from visiting Lidia and Rosa in Mexico. She said that they had become curanderos, and were trying to find a way to transfer the AIDS virus from people into trees. “Soon trees will be dying all over Mexico,” Florinda joked. When asked about Pablito and Nestor, she said they had become master carpenters, and had a thriving business in Oaxaca. Soledad, Florinda said, was a producer of soap operas in Mexico City. What became of the others, she didn’t say. [Beginning in May 1995, these “other apprentices” were said to have been recently whisked away by don Juan into the Second Attention.) .."

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u/danl999 3 points 2026-01-26 18:52

Fascinating!

The first one makes it less likely Soledad Ruiz is the same one.

But the second one makes it seem possible.

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u/millirahmstrudel 5 points 2026-01-26 21:35

is this the soledad from the book? - it looks like that to me, after reading an article written by estela leñero franco about soledad ruiz and a photo of her:
translated from https://www.proceso.com.mx/cultura/2021/3/2/soledad-ruiz-10-anos-de-su-partida-259293.html :

".. MEXICO CITY (apro).- Little is known about Soledad Ruiz's life in the theater, but many students and theater professionals remember her as a teacher, actress, director, and active woman. .."

".. Soledad Ruiz (1936-2011) .. and in 1952 she began her acting career at the age of 16, .."

".. Interested in the character of Don Juan, she directed El burlador de Sevilla by Tirso de Molina in 1967, Don Juan Tenorio by José Zorrilla in 1971 and 1993, .."

".. In her blog, Bruja de la luna recounts that Soledad Ruiz was part of the concheros, dancers who preserve the tradition of Mexico's witchcraft lineages; that she held the rank of captain and her area of influence was as a healer. A woman of knowledge who shared her wisdom. Her healing teacher, Magdalena Ortega, introduced her to Don Juan and Carlos Castaneda, and she became friends with the latter. In 2007, she left teaching, and on February 18, 2011, she suffered respiratory arrest. .."

there is an still active facebook profile with her name and a few photos:
https://www.facebook.com/mtrasoledadruiz/photos/un-d%C3%ADa-como-hoy-pero-de-1936-nace-en-san-jos%C3%A9-del-pado-guanajuato-soledad-ruiz-d/1944367632264349/

facebook profile hat this imdb link: https://www.imdb.com/de/name/nm0749938/

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u/danl999 4 points 2026-01-26 22:56

Probably not. But someone did post a long article on her that made it seem so, until you read the other things written about Soledad, by Carlos and the witches.

Soledad is apparently a popular name, and Carlos used alternate names in his books.

So it would be odd if he used the real name just for her.

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u/millirahmstrudel 2 points 2026-01-27 23:03

and it is said that the soledad from the books had at least one biological son - pablito. it doesn't fit 100%

from all-in-one pdf p599, the second ring of power, ch1 - the transformation of dona soledad, p22:

"You mean that you're not Pablito's mother and they are really your daughters?"

"I mean that they are mine. The Nagual gave them to me for safekeeping. You are always

wrong because you rely on words to explain everything. Since I am Pablito's mother and you heard that they were my girls, you figured out that they must be brother and sisters. The girls are my true babies. Pablito, although he's the child that came out of my womb, is my mortal enemy."

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 2 points 2026-01-27 23:54

Minuto 30:00
Y si lees en el testimonio de Soledad Ruiz cuando y donde se veían…

También lo nombra a Pablito.

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u/millirahmstrudel 2 points 2026-01-28 02:55

tony karam said in the video that he met soledad and pablito. theoritically he could confirm if they were found. through pablito maybe nestor‘s book could be found.

where can i find that testimonio of soledad ruiz? is this it - i have a hard time reading the handwritten text. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=784206604947130&set=a.784206494947141&__tn__=%2CO*F

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u/millirahmstrudel 2 points 2026-01-28 04:31

one day i‘ll make it into the private subreddit.

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 1 points 2026-01-28 04:58

Ups! Pensé que ya estabas. Eres un buen “rastreador”. 

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 2 points 2026-01-28 02:22

La Gorda believed that the men were unable to remember their instruction when I asked them to reveal their stalking knowledge to me, because they practiced it without knowing what they were doing. Their training was revealed, however, in their dealings with people. They were consummate artists in bending people to their wishes. Through their stalking practice the men had even learned controlled folly. For example, they carried on as if Soledad were Pablito's mother.

To any onlooker, it would seem that they were mother and son pitted against each other, when in reality they were acting out a part. They convinced everybody. Sometimes Pablito would give such a performance that he would even convince himself.

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u/millirahmstrudel 3 points 2026-01-28 02:44

thanks, so it was a stalking maneuver and they weren‘t biologically mother and son.

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u/millirahmstrudel 1 points 2026-01-29 20:04

also @u/NiKOLiNAZ :
i found some quotes of a german speaking guy who met soledad ruiz at a shaman congress in alpbach 1998 and what he writes about her makes it look like the soledad ruiz from the facebook profile is not the soledad from the books.
he also left a facebook "like" on soledad ruiz's facebook profile - this is how i found his website.

the quotes:

".. And it is due to a circumstance that cannot be praised highly enough: her close acquaintance with Carlos Castaneda and, incredibly, two encounters with the quintessential "Brujo ," the Nagual Juan Matus, at the home of her teacher, the incomparable Doña Magdalena. And thirdly, because I was too cowardly at the Alpbach Congress at the time to stand up and address her. .."

from https://www.otorongo.net/das-wirken-der-unendlichkeit/

"It was Pentecost 1998, the shamanic congress in Alpbach. They were all there together, some conspicuous, some inconspicuous. The American delegation, the African, the Asian.

What a crowd, what excitement! The weekend sunshine over the Alpine village. Money was changing hands.

Delia wants to go to Donja Soledad.

"Donja Soledad, are you the one Castaneda describes?" she asks her in Castilian Spanish.

"No, my love, pero aqui estamos hablando aleman."

Later she will tell anecdotes about him. .."

from https://www.otorongo.net/wie-alles-begann-gctid112/

sources:
facebook like on one of soledad ruiz facebook posts: https://www.facebook.com/mtrasoledadruiz/posts/pfbid02WruX9kXa9Cojawke1HdVeYKLBY7XdeL88nF5zEmrY4Fa4pa7HFEBhsKdoJWadVKAl

picture of doña magdalena. teacher of soledad ruiz on soledad ruiz's profile:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=774457632588694&set=a.774455142588943&type=3

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 2 points 2026-01-29 20:44

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 1 points 2026-01-29 21:31

"Nein, meine Liebe, pero aqui estamos hablando aleman.”

Exquisita respuesta!

Dos cosas: 1. Era una maravillosa acechadora. 2. Tratar de verificar el mundo de los brujos desde el punto de vista lineal nos aleja de la magia, no nos deja “ver”.

Soy mujer, entiendo que los hombres lo “necesiten” pero pierden mucho tiempo en un camino que finalmente los lleva a tener que aceptar  la interlinealidad. O no, justamente de la linealidad se “agarraron” los detractores cuando los brujos se fueron para decir que todo era una mentira.

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 2 points 2026-01-29 21:37

"Nein, meine Liebe, pero aqui estamos hablando aleman.”

Exquisita respuesta!

Puede que sea la misma Soledad, puede que no, pero…

Dos cosas: 1. Era una maravillosa acechadora. 2. Tratar de verificar el mundo de los brujos desde el punto de vista lineal nos aleja de la magia, no nos deja “ver”.

Soy mujer, entiendo que los hombres lo “necesiten” pero pierden mucho tiempo en un camino que finalmente los lleva a tener que aceptar  la interlinealidad. O no, justamente de la linealidad se “agarraron” los detractores cuando los brujos se fueron para decir que todo era una mentira.

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u/millirahmstrudel 1 points 2026-01-30 02:55

to me too the beginning of the conversation does sound like something a stalker could say. maybe the „no“ wasn‘t meant as a no to the question and more as a „no“ to not speak spanish in a german congress.

maybe its just my imagination, but in the photo of doña magdalena (teacher of soledad ruiz) her left and her right eye are different:

from all in one pdf p544:

“.. "The secret is in the left eye," he said. "As a warrior progresses on the path of knowledge his left eye can clasp anything. Usually the left eye of a warrior has a strange appearance; sometimes it becomes permanently crossed, or it becomes smaller than the other, or larger, or different in some way." ..“

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 2 points 2026-02-02 02:14

You're not imagining it. There's a different feeling to each side.

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u/danl999 2 points 2026-02-02 12:46

Maybe I'll try to convince Cholita to visit Vicam.

If she returns that is.

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u/danl999 2 points 2026-02-02 12:52

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 2 points 2026-02-02 13:48

Esta mujer es Sue Graham. 🤔

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 3 points 2026-01-27 00:10

También creo que es ella. Encontré más documentos. Por ejemplo, una secuencia de 15 pases mágicos que el nagual en el año 1992 le enseño a unos actores de la UNAM justo cuando ella era la Coordinadora del Colegio de Literatura Dramática y Teatro de la Facultad de Filosofía y Letras UNAM 1991-1992.
Además de que se movía en entornos teatrales y cinematográficos más allá de México porque fue egresada de la Escuela de Arte Escénica de Praga.
La vieja Florinda hizo que se distanciaran con el Nagual hasta que Florinda Donner en un viaje a México los reúne nuevamente en la casa de Jacobo.

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u/millirahmstrudel 2 points 2026-01-27 22:57

interesting, do you know if somewhere it is said that she had any children? in the books it is said that pablito is her biological son.

i found a thesis where she is mentioned a lot: "la danza de los concheros: testimonio de una identidad": https://tesiunamdocumentos.dgb.unam.mx/pd2005/0602076/0602076.pdf

the facebook profile started after she passed away in 2011. the first entry i found was from 2011-06-20 and her birthday is mentionend on 2012-04-10.

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 2 points 2026-01-27 23:19

Sobre si tuvo hijos de su vientre no  lo se. En cuanto a Pablito como hijo ten en cuenta (explorador Azul hija de Carol/ explorador naranja hija de Florinda y hay más “maternidades”)
En 1992 el Nagual  le enseñó  pases mágicos  a algunos integrantes de Tit. También les enseñaba al grupo de Danza tradicional Citlalmina. Y estaba muy interesado por los concheros.

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 2 points 2026-01-27 23:52

Precioso material el que rastreaste! Muchas gracias!
Más cerca de Julián 😉