I'm curious about how art and acting is part of sorcery and what role it has.
I'm wondering if actors and artists are really performing stalking and dreaming abilities to some degree. I don't think all are sorcerers, but I can see how they can become one. While I don't know any specific person who practice Olmec sorcery, I know that many in Hollywood dabble in some kind of witchcraft. It's also interesting that of all places Hollywood seems like THE witchiest place for artists and actors to openly admit they practice something, not to mention Soledad getting into movies and Florinda Donner having connections there. Also why of all art forms was movies the choice? Is it to do with how it can easily manipulation the assemblage point? I read a post about how creepiness in horror movies are similar to moving the AP to the right. Will AI and VR be the next 'art' to manipulate the AP more fluidly? Of course that won't make everyone see but it sure will affect a lot of people. It's funny to parallel the image of a person wearing DKR eye covers and someone else with a VR - both intending for interaction but with different results.
It also makes me curious about Olmec artifacts. I highly doubt they created intricate statues just for decoration. In the Second Ring of Power, La Gorda mentioned picking up a stone that turned out to be full of dangerous energy that nearly got her killed. Don Juan warned not to visit the pyramids because they were in fact inventions to manipulate energy. This makes me question if art/objects were originally technology for storing energy and intent. And after some time humanity forgot about magic and started using them as 'symbols' for hierarchy, money and power. If so, can we look/hold Olmec artifacts and move our AP? How are ancient artifacts supposed to be used?
I wonder if art and acting are 'sample' practices for sorcery, like a baby's first book of alphabets for the many texts and conversations it will have in the future.
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It's a lot to wonder about, no doubt.
I'm particularly interested because I've come to a point where I want to explore more aspects about artistic creation. There's no way people created giant monoliths and intricate practices (like dance and acting) just for aesthetic pleasures.
Silence your internal dialogue and see what happens when you create! Easy, huh?
You need to move your assemblage point and hold it in a new position, or it's not stalking.
That's a common misunderstanding in our community which would be cleared up, if people bothered to read all of the books.
Stalking comes from sorcerers being able to actually change who they are. For real.
We have access to 600 copies of ourselves as "cyclic beings".
And if you learn to "see", meaning reach Silent Knowledge, what you want more than anything is to sustain it. To make it last longer than the 20 minutes you might get by using darkroom to move your assemblage point that far.
So you become very aware of how it returns to normal and you lose those amazing abilities to see anywhere in time and space.
And if you could pretend to be a farm worker in a dirty outfit with a big sombrero, and that would allow you to keep your silent knowledge state for a full day, maybe because you didn't keep getting approached by people in your city that you know and who have business with you, you'd certainly do that at least once in a while.
Taisha became a homeless woman, and Carlos a fry cook in Arizona.
Hoping to permanently stabilize silent knowledge.
You might also notice that "not-doings" make it easier to view those videos in the air which come with silent knowledge, because they loosen some very tiny ties to the normal reality. Because they're unusual things to be doing.
It's like going for a brisk walk at night, to get over having fought with your wife that evening.
It's very complicated to explain all this to someone who doesn't have direct experience with it, and easy to just see in front of you yourself when you do, like it was the page in an instruction book floating in the air.
Now, to further complicate matters sorcerers come under constant attack.
I've got a particularly vicious Mexican woman attacking on Facebook right now. As best I can figure, she's been tricked by bad men pretending to be sorcerers, using sleeping dreams, and she doesn't want to realize those are just con artists.
Won't let go of attacking.
But we get that in here too.
So sorcerers extended the idea of using daily behavior to hold new positions of the assemblage point, to include protecting themselves from those seeking to rid the world of magic.
Which is pretty much everyone other than sorcerers.
It's nearly like in "The Matrix" where anyone can potentially be turned into an "agent" and attack you. Everyone in private classes was aware of that movie, even though it was only a trailer at the time, and many thought it was motivated by Castaneda's writings.
That's what we face. Surrounded by hostiles.
Carlos called it "the attack of 3s" because they usually come in groups of 3.
That increases "doubt" in people being attacked. If there's 3 of them, our tendency as Chimps is to back down. Whereas if it's just one, we confront the challenger.
Bottom line: Don't pretend your sorcery. You might be able to do that when you have read all of the books and understand, but at that point it would be stalking, not pretending.
This kind of speculation won't do anyone any good, and tends to give the feeling you are making progress, through "understanding".
Understanding is what keeps us trapped in the ordinary world.
Unbent intent in what we are trying to do here, realizations that come so hard and over time. Working hard and realizing every next step that's it's not enough and that one need to work even harder and be more impeccable, is a must. Truly repeating same thing over and over makes us the master of intent and brings us real astonishing magic. No fake system could comprehend the amount of real work this requires and yet all hard work pays off. Thank you for investing so much energy into this sub.
The frustrating part it, it's not really all that much work.
I've had hobbies I spent more time on, like gem cutting.
Most people have.
Possibly it's just self-pity protecting itself from being removed, which makes it seem like so much work.
That and the endless attacks b y the fliers.
I've had to stop paying attention to comments on facebook, it got so bad.
And since they don't allow stopping all comments, I have to ban people who keep doing that.
I guess you are right, If I went to darkroom and didn't have to fight my self-pity for the first 10-30 mins and later in practice it wouldnt interrupt my silence, the assembly point would go much further with less practice as it would have much less resistance
In that case, It would be safe to say that we could become good in magic very fast. Unfortunately it looks like universe has other plans tho, and it does seem that with more hours invested we learn how to push down self pity and get more silence better. It's a very much painful process, but the more we do it, the easier it gets.
I can reach Silent knowledge in 5 minutes now, just sitting in darkness using my palm to stir the flatness in front of me.
But that leads to its own problems. Laziness returns, and you start justifying playing directly with Silent Knowledge, so that you run out of time to do the passes.
I believe that's the learning process for us.
Carlos said "discipline" drives the fliers away, and we all saw his example of that in "Kylie Fierceness".
But I believe that was a mistake on his part, and because of it no one learned but Kylie.
Maybe he didn't know himself, having received help.
"Discipline" is a bad way to explain things to our "generation" of seers.
Better to say, "Getting off your dim witted self pity filled LAZY BUTTS and doing real, hard work every single night, drives the fliers away. Nothing else will do the job. Not even wishful thinking."
Probably that could be phrased better...
But it's true for the men.
I'm not so sure for the women, but in the end they didn't learn either.
In fact, maybe Nyei, Reni, and Aerin, corrupted themselves with womb dreaming and self-flattery?
Am I actually managing to practice stalking then?
I was doing gazing while visiting my family and was seeing some beautiful stuff emerging (open-eyed of course). Then my family got back, and I just got up from the bed and went downstairs to help them. Prior to all of this Castaneda stuff, I would be furiously angry at being disrupted. I just noticed the clear discrepancy, since this has been the first time in a while that I've been with my family.
Darkroom IS stalking.
You move the assemblage point using your actions, then hold it in place by changing your behavior.
(removing your internal dialogue)
But yes, stalking becomes automatic once you have real magic to protect from attacks.
And family is all about attacking each other to keep things in line with the past.
It's the worst of social entanglements.
But so sad to explain that to people.
Young women are especially hard hit, to learn that it's all shit. And their "soulmate" is a bastard no one who possessed anything as real and wonderful as magic, would want to have around.
Thus the dilemma of whether women should be told such harsh things, or have to discover those on their own through aging and experience.
(removing your internal dialogue)
This hit me hard all of a second. Removing the internal dialogue is, of course, behavior, and so doing sorcerer's behavior is a stalking exercise.
I suppose anything you do in your physical body which furthers the goal of learning sorcery, is stalking.
But try telling that to the Cleargreen followers discussion group, where what we do in here is evil old seer magic.
They just love to pretend to be doing stalking, since they can't do anything else.
Except "Feel the Power!", Reni style.
Thank you for the detailed comment. I understand that art and acting don't lead to stalking, but I thought perhaps it could be used as technology to create some kind of magical experience? Historians say art (pictures) were used in place of languages in the past, but I also know that some ancient statues are made to affect someone's mood, so I'm a little curious about what the purpose of art (and acting) is.
...Or maybe I'm trying to rationally understand too much and foolishly walking in circles, probably.
Everything is intent! You can be an artist who follow's an artist's intent or an artist who follows a sorcerer's intent. Make yourself a sorcerer first if that is what you want to do and then start creating art. There is lots of art being created in the books, it is true. Even Elias created stuff, not just Julian!
You can leap right into paintings. And literally land in that world.
That might be useful.
But by the time you can do that, it'll be the least interesting thing you can think of to do.
Cholita creates spells by painting on the walls and brick fences around our home.
Right now the entrance to her studio is dark blue, with red symbols on it.
Wow! So it all comes down to intent afterall. Thank you!
It's also possible, if yo8u learn to get silent, to view an image on a white canvas, and just paint over it and copy what you see.
Very hard to sustain though.
But done right, you can make paintings from infinity, that you didn't create at all.
Engineers can do the same. Just see their designs or solutions, floating in the air.
That's very interesting...
Actually I ask this question about art, because a couple of months ago I suddenly had a 2 week high-energy period. Leading up to that time, I played with doing silence whenever I could. I wouldn't say I was great at it. Then one morning I woke up, completely clear headed and clear eyed. My eyes were like panorama lenses and so aware of everything. I was surprised but my emotion was very...neutral, but not joyful. I was rather too unemotional. I also didn't need to eat or sleep; maybe eating once a day and sleeping 3 to 5 hours a night. I also didn't like talking to people because I could sense their emotional shallowness. Not in a condescending way, but I knew they wanted my emotional attachments to fulfil their needs and I knew that would end my focus.
As an artist, the greatest challenge is drawing what I intend without making mistakes. During the 2 weeks I hardly made any mistakes and my hand drew the right pictures (mostly) automatically. But here's the thing I don't really understand; I couldn't tell if I was seeing the images ON the blank paper, or if I was visualising really well. With intense focus I can sense images blinking on the page but I can't tell if it's visualising or not because it doesn't look drawn/glued onto the surface. More like holograms in my mind if that makes sense but I don't know if seeing can look like holograms or projections. I assume it's visualising not seeing. Well whatever it was, drawing whatever I intended came out very easily.
Anyway, at one point I felt doubt and heard my inner dialogue very distinctly and loudly that I was getting too distant, too inhuman. It was actually very annoying to hear my voice in inner dialogue because the 2 weeks were so quiet. Then all hell got loose and I lost all my focus and energy, even getting sick. I don't how the 2 weeks came to be, maybe beginner's gift to taste potential before choosing to commit to it.
As for diving into the canvas - I haven't experienced it, but I wonder if this experience is similar to it? When I was a kid, I had vivid dreams, and a few times I was able to command myself to quickly swirly-warp-dive into dark shadows (lead into space), crevices (I became tiny enough to fit in) and few times into blue paper (which transported me into a pool). I don't know if this is it, but heck if I could do it again! It was a lot of fun. But I didn't know it was possible AWAKE.
If you learn to project dreams onto a blank canvas, there's no "visualizing" about it. It's clearly right there, as if someone had a video project and projected it onto the surface.
Carlos Castaneda tells of how his master’s master, Julian Osório, became a Nagual – a type of sorcerer according to certain Mexican traditions.
Julian worked as a actor in a traveling theater in the interior of Mexico.
It's certainly interesting that Julian was a theater actor. Admittedly, I haven't read all of the books (I'm nearly finished with Eagle's Gift). I wish there were more stories about him.
Look up Zarzuelas in Mexico, mid to late 19th century; it’s a fascinating subject.