hello .Which tensegrity movements are the best for doing darkroom?
Intent movements? Dreaming movements? movements of silence?Why?
Which do you suggest and do you consider necessary and which do you not consider necessary?
Please only say the moves that are in the magical passes book
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Did you even read that book? All of your questions were answered from that very book you just namedropped, and why too!
If you’re not going to take this seriously, well…the others will show you the door lmao 😂
to choose the the best moves for Darkroom, it might be better to get help from someone who has tried all the moves
he/she is proffesional
In order to avoid the wrong choice
And wasting time
Why don’t you want to look them up in the wiki here? What kind of wrong choices do you think you’ll make without a guide? What’s your thought process behind avoiding “wasting time” and what have you done so far?
Today I went through the manly movements and I am very hot and thirsty all the time
The best movements are first some movement from the category of intention to go, then the movements of vision, and then the movements of silence.
Now, which one should be done more to get a better result?
Take a look at this diagram, start from the upper left.
If you cannot see the beginning parts of the blue to green stations, you’re doing it wrong, regardless of any tensegrity movements. You cannot rank or disregard ANY of these movements because they all can make darkroom visible. With no silence, they cannot work. If you are not silent, none of them are the “right choice”. Have fun arguing with the professionals when they wake up in their respective timezones.
All of them.
Whichever ones come to your mind.
u/Jadeyelmonte
Hello. Do you have any comments?
You wouldn’t be wasting your time with any of them since each is good on its own right.
I have some favorites for myself. I like the ones that have strikes for visuals, as well as the last three “filters” in the decision series. The recap series is good since it forges the energy body and the last 4 breaths at the end of that series are good in the darkroom.
Dark room? Whats that? Been practicing the moves since 2002. To do them without any light, not sure the benefit. Maybe to silence the mind, or to prep for recapitulation? Hmmm
The reason to do the passes in the complete absence of light, is so that one can more easily focused on the second attention… as long as one is also internally silent (absent self reflection).
By blocking the most salient layer of the first attention; what we see with the organic eyes.
And it’s far far better to do this with the eyes open, because of the signal that projects to intent.
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So, the problem is not the internal dialogue, but the problem of focusing awareness, right?
I came to the conclusion that if I listen to some songs like the sound of a drum and concentrate on its loud sound (loud sound itself also causes concentration), it greatly reduces the inner dialogue and I found it useful. But you're saying we shouldn't focus on anything in tonal, not even sounds right? So is it better to abandon this technique?
This is one of the songs that I listen to and try to keep quiet:
It's more about opening a crack in the primacy of the first attention. Then you force open that crack through your continued efforts.
As humans, we're visual creatures so that's the primary channel/avenue. But if you were born blind I suppose you'd have to use the avenue of hearing, and put ear plugs in and also a pair of noise canceling headphones over those...and then "listen" for the second attention.
Or to "feel" (touch) it.
And it's hard to know whether or not our focus on self-reflection maintains the internal monologue or whether the internal monologue maintains our focus on self-reflection!
The whole chicken or the egg thing....
Now, do you think I should use this technique of focusing on sound or not?
Did you listen to the song? Was it effective for silence?
I wouldn't use songs.
Listening to the world around you, aka the sounds of the world, is one of the "gazing with the ears" techniques that is described in the books via the narratives.
But it's more about listening for the "holes" between the sounds.....and that would also be best done in the dark.
techno. I did not understand one thing. Is the intention of a living being like us humans or is it just a tool like chatgpt?
Neither.
It's very challenging to talk about intent. I don't even try.
https://reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/terminology/intent
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