Using of magical experiences for a fictional novel

Hi Dan,

My wife is a writer. She has an idea for a novel with a strong fantasy element. I am wondering if she can use some aspects and descriptions of magical experiences described in this forum in her work. Just to clarify, this will be a fictional piece aimed at a young adult to adult audience, and she definitely won't be turning it into a teaching of any sort. The intention is for the novel to be published.

We will definitely understand if you don't think it's a good idea, in which case she will not be using any of the stuff here, but "make up" her own magic elements. Otherwise, we are happy to contribute to the community with her work if there is a way, keep you updated on the progress, or collaborate in other other way you see fit.

Thank you

18 Comments

[-]
u/DeathCantFindThem 1 points 2024-07-10 03:26

Hi there! I'm not Dan, but I have some interesting anecdotes of a spiritual connotation and I've been thinking about trying to tie them into some sort of tale for children as well!
I am in no way much of a story writer, and tristed details are a bit to unpack. But, I'm sure your wife knows a good use of timelines and dialogue and could help potentially tie things together, possibly? Hmu! Best-

[-]
u/Emergency-Total-4851 5 points 2024-07-10 04:55

Funny, copyright law does not apply to real experiences (as far as I am aware), so if you think these experiences are real, then you don't actually need to ask (of course it's nice to ask as a courtesy). If these experiences aren't real, then you get destroyed in court for using anyone's experience without their permission.

The joys of commercial law :)

[-]
u/According_Team_7930 1 points 2024-07-10 10:24

it is a gray zone ( I think )

[-]
u/Emergency-Total-4851 2 points 2024-07-10 10:42

"When nothing is for sure we remain alert, perennially on our toes," he said. "It is more exciting not to know which bush the rabbit is hiding behind than to behave as though we know everything."

[-]
u/Final-Meringue-5611 1 points 2024-07-17 04:25

Haha, that's an intersting thought :) Well, the novel is not going to be in English, just to add to the greyness.

[-]
u/Emergency-Total-4851 1 points 2024-07-17 05:33

Yeah I don't think it matters (and I doubt it is very grey at all). Our reality is constructed around intellectual property so every country operates to some degree the same with respect to these laws.

[-]
u/danl999 6 points 2024-07-10 12:36

Star Wars is like that!

And it's helpful to people, because it's tilting the balance a bit towards real magic, and away from the trashy kinds.

[-]
u/TheOwlsAreAllAround 1 points 2024-07-10 20:39

Did you see the most recent episode of the Acolyte? The hardcore SW fans all hate it but it’s really interesting what they’re developing around the lore of these secret Witch covens and showing how the old Jedi were truly akin to the “old seers”, powerful but essentially corrupted by their own self importance

[-]
u/danl999 8 points 2024-07-10 20:53

I've been saving it. I hate to watch the last one I have. I've even got an episode or two of "Bad Batch" also waiting to be seen.

So far, the Acolyte hasn't deviated far enough from our magic, to do much criticizing over it.

But now I suppose I have 2 to watch, since there was another yesterday.

Maybe when Cholita is resolved over whether the plumbing in the bathroom gets to work or not.

I was counting all the attacks on the bathroom.

First, the bug screen on the window. Cholita decided you can't have a screen there, in case she's locked out by me and needs to climb in that window. She just ripped it off and tossed it in the yard.

So we have bugs.

Then she decided the shower curtain on the rod was taunting her, and ripped it in half and threw it in the hallway.

I thought maybe it was too hard to open, so I got a better one with little rollers on all the hoops.

But she got into a war with that one, even ripping up the curtain itself, and not just the rod.

Next was the toilet. It was making spooky noises at night.

So I replaced the inner guts to make sure it shut off immediately and didn't leak.

But she heard it anyway, just like she heard the Allies under the house, threatening her.

So she ripped the guys out of the toilet, and we had none for 3 months.

I think she got tired of that and let me fix it.

Next she decided there was a hidden camera in the shower head.

So she took that off, and wouldn't allow me to get a different one that obviously could not possible conceal a camera.

We had to have no shower head for several months, before I bought two new ones just in case, and left them where she could see it.

Then the bathtub drain vent was worrying her, so she stuffed cloth into it, to block any possible cracks which could have someone watching behind the bath inside the wall.

I don't know what made her angry with t he sink, but she stuffed a long sock down it, so that the water took a half hour to drain.

I fixed that, but then she stuffed things so far down, the bathtub is now unusable.

I couldn't rooter it out, so tonight I have to go under the house to see what it would take, top remove the drain and get at the rags or socks she stuffed in there.

Thus, no Acolyte for me tonight...

[-]
u/aumuaum 1 points 2024-07-11 08:17

/media/1dzhwbr/z5lqtjxcmubd1.png

True? or no

[-]
u/danl999 5 points 2024-07-11 11:18

Most of the universe is female.

Males are an unnecessary oddity.

Carlos, or maybe one of the witches, used some kind of astronomical analogy, but I don't recall what it was.

Maybe something lie, if you look out into space, the dots of light occur at the frequency of males.

The jet blackness all around them, is the percentage of living beings that are female.

This is of course something that's hard for males to accept, until you have a witch like Cholita around to convince you otherwise.

Last night she had me crawling around in dead rotting insect corpses smelling fine dirt under our house, trying to unclog the bathtub drain.

Into which she'd stuffed rags in order to disable the bathroom.

When I came out covered entirely in dirt with no way to wash it off but the hose in the backyard, she insisted it was time to trim the weeds. Saying, "You won't win any Christian awards the way this backyard looks!"

[-]
u/aumuaum 1 points 2024-07-12 01:34

Hahaha well If anyone has any question about the lengths they might have to be willing to go, to break the bindings of perception then you provide an illuminating tale.

[-]
u/danl999 1 points 2024-07-12 10:32

Cholita is still holding strong against having to call a plumber herself. She took the money I gave her and tied a band around it to "seal it", and put it on the dinner table under a vase, so I couldn't help but notice she hasn't touched it.

After crawling under the house I've concluded I'm too old for that kind of activity.

So next attempt will be to rent a professional grade rooter.

But having seen the pipes themselves, I don't see how it knows which way to go down there. The entry pipe branches at the key point, with an air vent going up, just as big as the drain pipe going down.

I'd need one with a camera on the end to figure out if it was going the right direction.

[-]
u/Final-Meringue-5611 1 points 2024-07-17 04:21

Thank you for your comment! I truely hope we will do a good thing with this novel (I will be helping my wife with certain aspects).

Interestingly, Star Wars, being one of my favourite series, never appeared to me as magical. To me it was more like slightly magical and heavy sci-fi and adventure. The story we are thinking of will be much more magical, it will be its main feature, so I would like it to not to contradict the real magic. Since I haven't seen much of it myself, we will try to keep it within what's described in this subreddit, and I must say it will likely be based on the wealth of information you, Dan, are giving here.

[-]
u/danl999 3 points 2024-07-17 11:47

Soledad the witch thought she could do her part, like Carlos, to preserve lineage knowledge, through influencing Hollywood.

We haven't uncovered the details yet, however. And all the people who witnessed it are dying of old age.

But there's always silent knowledge, which allows time travel.

As long as you can "locate" an event.

That's the trickier part.

Time travel itself, is inevitable with what we practice.

[-]
u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2024-07-17 12:44

Some proof of this, from a comment that we removed this morning:

/media/1dzhwbr/media.jpg

/media/1dzhwbr/2i95jfjuq2dd1.png

[-]
u/danl999 1 points 2024-07-17 14:17

Sufism, according to my understanding, is extracted from Islam with claims to come from much older stuff.

(As all fake magical systems tend to do).

And oddly, Sufism is tolerated by Islam.

The same can be said of medieval Christianity, back when they murdered witches.

A very old version of the bible, not the king james, included pictures of sorcerers working inside the larger church system.

[-]
u/[deleted] 1 points 2024-07-21 06:21 deleted

[removed]