Problems with inner silence and melodys in my mind

Hello everyone, I just noticed that I have serious problems maintaining complete inner silence. At least they are "serious" for my current practical performance, because although I manage to quiet thoughts of the day to day, of the past and the future, I even manage to quiet those who are dedicated to interpreting what my senses perceive at the moment... However there is one last barrier that lingers in my mind. It is a song that plays repeatedly. It is not a particular song, but a melody, a rhythm that I hum, a verse or stanza of some song that has recently been presented to my senses.
The truth is I don't have much to say about it, but I can answer any question you have. Try to give me a practical solution to this problem.
Well I really have no idea how to quiet it. I tend to be someone who is quite nervous, anxious, at least in the physical expression of my being. My feet move a lot, my gaze jumps from one place to another observing everything, my feet always set a certain rhythm...well, I think you get the idea.

Thanks beforehand! I'll wait for your answers!!!

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 15 points 2024-07-12 00:23

Personally, I go to great lengths to avoid potential earworm sources! When you're sitting in the darkroom and the only thing in your mind is a loop of *Achy Breaky Heart* by IBilly Ray Cyrus...well, you'll go to great lengths for environmental quiet.

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A few months back I found out that my local Walmart has a 'sensory friendly' period every Saturday morning from 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m., when they turn off the store's background pop music.

A loop of insipid love songs 😖

Needless to say, I only go shopping on Saturday mornings now.

Less earworms for me! ☑️

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u/aumuaum 7 points 2024-07-12 00:41

Always the worst blue line sentiments drilling into your mind in retail environments. "Baby, How am I supposed to Live without Yooou!" kind of stuff.

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u/EmotionalAnxiety3617 2 points 2024-07-12 00:50

As part of my life I have eliminated a lot of harmful food for my mind, however with music it has not been like that at all, I have a very good relationship with said art. I am much more selective and not all the music I consume is for leisure, however there are some that are.

So do you recommend that I reduce the habit of listening to music in my free time, when I walk, drive, etc.? I think that the correct way would be to redirect that energy and attention dedicated to mentally repeating something, in order to perceive the unknown, but I have no idea how!

Especially how to force myself to do it. In reality, I have tried letting whatever is in my mind flow, I have tried chewing gum, I have tried not thinking about it and it is even worse but I cannot let it loose because I would not be forcing the internal silence.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 3 points 2024-07-12 00:56

All I can say is that for me the earworm is worse when I don't have a choice in what I'm listening to (and it stinks!), such as in that situation that I point out above.

When I can't turn it off, and I have to stay and finish what I'm there to do. For the duration. I get irritated, and maybe that's what leads to the earworm.

More of my energy gets knotted into it.

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u/WasteSugar7 6 points 2024-07-12 03:19

I dunno if it’s helpful, but sometimes I find actually listening to the song I have stuck in my head gets it out of my head.

Sometimes I’m also able to follow the song to the source of some other unconscious thought or feeling that is acting as a trigger for the song—like, an underlying energy on loop. Maybe just sing the song really loudly to get it out of the system. Sometimes that works for me too.

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u/jumpinchollacactus 4 points 2024-07-12 04:03

Lots of years ago I was hiking in the canyon foothills where I lived at the time, generally a very enjoyable thing for me. However this day, I had a raging internal dialog going about a guy who had set me up to fail in a business contract.

I couldn't shake loose from this internal barrage and got to a point where it was so unbearable, that I stopped and yelled loudly with all the force I had , SHUT UP! 2 or 3 times. It worked and in a blink of an eye everything got quiet.

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u/silence_sam 4 points 2024-07-12 04:01

I’ve had success with singing along to it internally, strangely enough. Rather than letting play on its own, I’ll drive it. If you play with that, you might feel into a way to de-energize it or drain it maybe. Something like recapitulation karaoke??

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u/dorbim 1 points 2024-07-14 06:58

Actually this is the way i listen music that i like- i'm singing with the vocal and also feeling like emitting all the sound including the instruments .. i just found this way i can merge with it and feel it the most.

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u/D6rk_H6lf 1 points 2024-07-12 05:50

(sorry for my bad English) I had a similar problem. I solved it by regrouping the energy.
The music moves the assemblage point slightly, so it doesn’t matter what you let in. But if it is already inside and it has become a loop:
In this case, you fix a portion of energy that the loop uses. I observed what kind of habit process leads to the loop and supplemented it with a magical element, for example by confirming the intention (I concentrated and said) that “I am a dreamer”, but anything will do. All this with the intention of breaking the linear flow of the loop. I carried out this intention regardless of the circumstances, on the bus in a crowd, or wherever and whenever the loop came. If you are persistent, this will break the process and the tune will disappear from your head.
What is also important in these cases is erasing personal history, since all such bugs originate from our past. Look for the reason in your past. Do you use or have you used any drugs? It often causes similar problems.

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u/danl999 7 points 2024-07-12 10:56

Just keep it up, that's all.

If this were easy, there would be seers all over the place!

Consider that Yogis and Buddhists will readily tell you, if you could remove your internal dialogue, you'd be enlightened.

Then they add either "but that's too difficult for nearly all people", or "but no man can do that".

I've heard both.

Then of course, they never do. Don't even get close to removing their internal dialogue through meditation, or they wouldn't have such boring, mediocre experiences, which don't even equal a woman in a bath surrounded by candles and flowers.

They just become drug addicts, and get confused with some kind of "cocaine high" type effect convincing them of their greatness. Buddhist masters are especially like cocaine addicts. Yogis more like thai sticks coated in opium, and Daoists like PCP addicts who believe they are indestructible.

However, it's not what you think, going on with your silence. Not at all.

But me telling you that won't help.

Just make sure you're doing some tensegrity. Don't fall into the trap of believing you don't need to do that. You'll make it 10 times harder to get silent enough to move to the red zone on the J curve.

Not to mention, later on, every single Tensegrity form is like a ride at Disneyland.

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u/Zen1-_-Boyy 2 points 2024-07-12 15:26

What holds me back from doing tensegrity is lack of adequate space and secondly their are so many movements which one do I do ,which sequence.

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u/danl999 8 points 2024-07-12 16:39

Pick some. The wiki has links to many Tensegrity videos.

They REALLY DO become like Disneyland rides if you keep working at it.

I can't believe the stuff I get to see while doing them!

I suppose it's possible that our beginner's level of darkroom, and the pictures showing it, become impossible eventually for someone who reaches Silent Knowledge.

The sights there while doing Tensegrity are too advanced to even show people, because it will discourage them.

It's just "too much".

But at the beginner's level the movements generate glowing blobs and clouds of purple, pink, yellow, and green light.

Which you can manipulate with your hands, and even form things from them.

When I was practicing shapeshifting in the red zone, I once took a "puff" and formed it into a clown car. Just 3 feet high as I recall.

Then I had to shrink down to the right size, to get in and drive off.

Which I did. And this picture is NOT an exaggeration as to what happened. It's just not very accurate since it would take too much time to improve it.

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That's what Tensegrity, silence, and gazing in darkness causes. And not after decades like the other systems promise (but never actually deliver much of anything).

If you did it right, you could do that in 1 week.

No one ever will most likely, but we have people in chat who are in that red zone right now, and have super cool things going on too.

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u/EducationalBarber529 2 points 2024-07-13 03:39

The question is a little off topic, but also about the material from the blue line. How to recapitulate countless TikToks and other brainrot material which I don’t even remember 10 minutes after watching?

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 5 points 2024-07-13 03:45

I would think focus on the big stuff first and later on do the smaller stuff. I suppose if, according to the books, that you place yourself at the time it happened, it is much easier to get back your energy from small stuff if you are re-seeing it directly. If something pops into your mind, recapitulate it on the spot, though.

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u/danl999 7 points 2024-07-13 06:41

Not to worry.

Nothing is ever lost in time or space. We can even view 8000 years ago in our own sorcery lineage, just because we have connections to it through the lineages.

But you have to start out recap the hard way, like you're doing.

Later, you can just watch it all on infinity Netflix as re-runs.

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u/Iwan_Hrozny 1 points 2024-07-12 13:44

It is said that "a wedge can only be driven with a wedge".     In my practice, this means playing "Russian hard bass" or "death metal" in the car on the way to work, which results in a clear head of " without earworms".

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u/dorbim 1 points 2024-07-14 07:01

:) have you heard something like "wedge wedge knocks out but the last one remains"

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u/Iwan_Hrozny 1 points 2024-07-15 03:34

haha, I didn't hear it, but I thought about it too.

:) but it's just a metaphor.  otherwise, if you knock out the wedge with a wedge, the old one can be easily pulled out with a hand tool.

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u/Remarkable-Farm-3886 3 points 2024-07-13 03:16

I would call myself a chronic earworm "sufferer".

But I've learned from practice that it doesn't matter.

If you can't stop the song playing in your head, then focus on stopping other stuff, like thoughts and images.
The mind quietens by degrees and you get to a degree where it's easier and even feels good to stop the music.

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u/WoodenGift7972 1 points 2024-07-14 09:14

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u/Final-Meringue-5611 2 points 2024-07-17 04:05

Just trying to keep silence much harder helped me with this problem. I haven't completely got rid of it, but it's much better now. So essentially just use your best silence keeping techniques to kill it off. For me, it is listening to my inner hissing sound, listening to my breathing, and, best of all, reminding myself of the goal and that there is no time to waste.

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