Looking for clarification regarding the recap path and IOBs

hey up, I've been reading around the site to get my head around the material and I have a question.

On the darkroom practice wiki page, dan describes an alternative path to darkroom called 'the cleargreen path" which is basically 3hrs recap per day + some daily Tensegrity. This path is decribed as 'boring' but "IOB free".

But elsewhere on the site Dan expains that the path of recap only, if pursued doggedly will "summon IOBs", and explains how they can pull you into 'phantom dreams'.

Doesn Dan mean to say that the recap-only path will prevent IOBs from bothering us in the first attention? Cheers.

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u/danl999 8 points 2024-07-30 11:40

No, just that during darkroom there they are, "in your face", while you are wide awake with your eyes open.

I don't know how many they show up for during recap, because we don't have any experienced recappers.

No one actually did the 3 hours. You have sporadic 20 minute sessions mostly, even among our leaders selected by Carlos.

It takes a long time for the assemblage point to move during darkroom, thus the recommended duration of darkroom sessions.

Same is true of recap.

But if you like, you can avoid IOBs during recap by simply ignoring anything they try.

False memories are the most likely first attempt.

Just brush them off.

Also, the reason "IOB free" comes up in the context of recap is, "the first enemy of a man of knowledge":

Fear.

We get people with unreasonable fear of spirits, who don't realize those will teach you real magic faster than anything else.

Even totally impotent and delusional Buddhist leaders teach the same. Their "higher techniques" mostly involve how to get poor contact with spirits.

They even make up stories about monks who were plagued with "tree spirits" in the mountains, and had to learn to treat them with "love".

But of course, if you are lucky enough to meet spirits during meditation, the typical thing to do is go start a world tour for your new book.

In the case of recap, just ignore them.

They won't be able to pester you much during recap because you're occupied with remembering, which "muddies the water" and makes it next to impossible for them to cause streams of awareness to ech from the dark sea, and give them some form to interact with.

It's like, they can really only be a reflection in a pond.

And if you gaze at it too long and it makes scary faces, you can become frightened.

But recap stirs the waters, so they can't pull off that trick.

I've just GOT to get a pond like that for the backyard. I wonder if Cholita will allow it, and maybe even become interested? They must sell fake rocks that form circles for such projects.

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u/_creaturehood_ 1 points 2024-07-30 12:21

I appreciate this detailed reply. Cheers Dan and thanks for your efforts.

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u/WitchyCreatureView 2 points 2024-07-30 13:53

I didn't end up doing the four hours of recapitulation everynight in July, but I could do it this week.

The few times I did do the four hours the spirits did show up, not with false memories but just Minx trying to steal energy with waking nightmares and random unpleasant textures, Voldemorty snake demons, like a Marilyn Manson music video where the music never comes and it's just existentially terrible and dreadful.

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u/danl999 3 points 2024-07-30 15:36

You'll miss him when he's gone...

I haven't seen a squirrel try to commit suicide using my car, for perhaps a year or more now.

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u/WitchyCreatureView 3 points 2024-07-31 14:18

There's a problem with certain terms used here. Obviously 'silence' makes people confused, and they focus on the blue line act of fighting against the blue line internal dialogue, instead of focusing on the second attention.

And the problem with the word "gazing" is that it makes it seem like magic is in the session of staring at the wall, when in fact it should be developing that you eventually see the colors and lights 100% of the time and not just when concentrating or gazing at a wall.

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u/danl999 7 points 2024-07-31 15:05

Maybe if we clarify instructions in a cartoon on this topic, perhaps taught in Grain's library after the first Tensegrity form taught by Carlos in the virtual Dance Home, we can clarify the instructions as a group project.

You do of course have monks taking a "vow of silence", but as even Carlos took the time to point out, their internal dialogues are raging all the more as a result of their "vow".

And the fact that you see that in movies where it's portrayed as spiritual or leading to magical powers, contributes to the confusion.

In fact, in Silent Knowledge you can speak without any trouble.

It's quite surprising after fighting so long to get there, by forcing out all words.

The enemy isn't the words. Nor is it the talking in your head.

You need that ability to keep track of lists.

The problem is what it's focused on. And that it focuses your awareness there as a result, not allowing your assemblage point to move.

One could almost say, "Remove your inner fantasizing".

Except then you'd get male beginners saying, "I stopped thinking about naked women for a whole 10 minutes, but it didn't work."

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u/WitchyCreatureView 2 points 2024-07-31 15:57

There was a science survey at some university, and they found on average the women had a romance fantasy every 30 minutes and the men had a sex fantasy every 5 minutes(!).

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u/danl999 2 points 2024-07-31 17:26

Cholita puts on displays lately. I get up at 3AM, can't take a shower because she plugged the drains with rags, so I just get dressed and go to work.

There she is in the living room, in some sexy Yoga pose.

As if it's just a coincidence.

Sometimes she's doing tensegrity, and I'm surprised to see that it's the original she learned. She didn't start messing it up with pretending, or forget the movements the way all of our Cleargreen leaders have.