Hey, guys. I'm new to this, and I want to ask how much recapitulation should be done for 1 memory because I do like 1 minute
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u/danl999
8 points2024-08-22 10:49
The main thing is to do longer sessions, and not so much what you focus on.
Later, you'll get a "video in the air" of the past event, and literally zip right into it, to find yourself standing in the past.
In that situation you have resources you can't imagine, so best not to sweat the early stages.
Get to the later stages as fast as you can.
And you do that by being very serious, and trying your hardest to remove your internal dialogue, while also remembering the past events.
And look for "weirdness" as feedback.
Here's the kind of thing you get to do at intermediate stages, if you are serious about recapitulation. You can not only view the past as a video, and then enter it, but you have superpowers you can use to find more memories, while there!
Notice none of our leaders ever got there, despite making the claim they do recap faithfully.
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u/Ok-Stable1562
2 points2024-08-22 12:24
does one memory take 2 hours? or should i do many memories in 2 hours?
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u/danl999
2 points2024-08-22 14:41
Do a memory until you "get tired of it".
Could be just 1 head sweep for something trivial.
If it's something traumatic that makes you highly emotional, you might want to do a full 10 minutes on it, and then do that again the next day, and the next, until you're sick and tired of it.
The idea that recap "gets your trapped energy back" is true, but it's not something to dwell on, until you can visibly see that using silent knowledge.
Instead, it's "how much it bothers you" that's more important at first.
Assuming you are practicing some other technique which needs silence to work.
Which I suspect everyone should always be doing. I don't know of any cases in any of the books, or that Carlos spoke about, where someone did ONLY recap.
You could, but it's likely unheard of and indicates someone poisoned by the delusions of Eastern systems.
So if you're doing darkroom and are serious about it, a time comes when a magnificent display of amazing magic materializes in front of you, but then a few seconds later you realize you aren't even facing that same direction, and have been fussing and fuming in your internal dialogue, about something that happened 20 years ago.
Your internal dialogue was triggered, and you lost all the magic!
Recap makes you sick and tired of those old concerns, so it's less likely that you'll fall back into your internal dialogue, so easily.
So it's not actually directly about recovering ALL of your stuck energy, as it is about not having your awareness fine it attractive to focus on that old event.
An analogy: You catch a 6 foot long trout!!! Totally amazing, and highly unlikely.
You tell the story eagerly to friend #1, who doesn't believe you. But that's part of the fun!
Then you tell it to #2 friend, and bring along #1 friend to back up you.
How many times can you do that, before you're sick and tired of telling the 6 foot trout story?
So tired of it, you don't even think about that lousy fish while doing darkroom. At least, not about who else you could tell the story to.
That's the benefit of recap, to a darkroomer.
Could be it's the same benefit that allows you to dart past the eagle when you die, who starts pulling out all of your old trout stories.
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u/Ok-Stable1562
1 points2024-08-23 11:32
To clarify, for traumatic memories 10 minutes, for ordinary memories only 1 turn of the head (isnt that a little?) and all this is alternated for up to 2 hours per session?
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u/pumpkinjumper1210
2 points2024-08-23 13:53
It's not "X type of memory = Y type of minutes". 'repeat until you get tired of it' means just that. It might be 2 minutes or 20. And you can return to the same memories. I try to do it until I feel I understood better my perspectives & emotions in the situation - usually it involves me saying or doing something because I wanted someone else to think a certain way about me.
You'll feel your breath change as you go over more intense ones. I try to get down to 2 relatively even sweeps back and forth (even meaning the breath intensity isn't fluctuating, I'm not significantly slowing down over a "bump" in the sweep). Some get super intense, I try to work through these more until the intensity at least settles a bit before going onto the next one.
I suggest you don't set a timer, instead just try it. In my experience it's a bit "addictive" reviewing experiences.
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u/danl999
3 points2024-08-23 16:48
And a timer would interfere with the assemblage point moving.
Not a good idea at all.
Even a hooka would be better than a timer!
You could nicotine yourself into more intense concentration.
But don't do that. If you must, follow Cholita's lead and smoke big cigars.
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The main thing is to do longer sessions, and not so much what you focus on.
Later, you'll get a "video in the air" of the past event, and literally zip right into it, to find yourself standing in the past.
In that situation you have resources you can't imagine, so best not to sweat the early stages.
Get to the later stages as fast as you can.
And you do that by being very serious, and trying your hardest to remove your internal dialogue, while also remembering the past events.
And look for "weirdness" as feedback.
Here's the kind of thing you get to do at intermediate stages, if you are serious about recapitulation. You can not only view the past as a video, and then enter it, but you have superpowers you can use to find more memories, while there!
Notice none of our leaders ever got there, despite making the claim they do recap faithfully.
does one memory take 2 hours? or should i do many memories in 2 hours?
Do a memory until you "get tired of it".
Could be just 1 head sweep for something trivial.
If it's something traumatic that makes you highly emotional, you might want to do a full 10 minutes on it, and then do that again the next day, and the next, until you're sick and tired of it.
The idea that recap "gets your trapped energy back" is true, but it's not something to dwell on, until you can visibly see that using silent knowledge.
Instead, it's "how much it bothers you" that's more important at first.
Assuming you are practicing some other technique which needs silence to work.
Which I suspect everyone should always be doing. I don't know of any cases in any of the books, or that Carlos spoke about, where someone did ONLY recap.
You could, but it's likely unheard of and indicates someone poisoned by the delusions of Eastern systems.
So if you're doing darkroom and are serious about it, a time comes when a magnificent display of amazing magic materializes in front of you, but then a few seconds later you realize you aren't even facing that same direction, and have been fussing and fuming in your internal dialogue, about something that happened 20 years ago.
Your internal dialogue was triggered, and you lost all the magic!
Recap makes you sick and tired of those old concerns, so it's less likely that you'll fall back into your internal dialogue, so easily.
So it's not actually directly about recovering ALL of your stuck energy, as it is about not having your awareness fine it attractive to focus on that old event.
An analogy: You catch a 6 foot long trout!!! Totally amazing, and highly unlikely.
You tell the story eagerly to friend #1, who doesn't believe you. But that's part of the fun!
Then you tell it to #2 friend, and bring along #1 friend to back up you.
How many times can you do that, before you're sick and tired of telling the 6 foot trout story?
So tired of it, you don't even think about that lousy fish while doing darkroom. At least, not about who else you could tell the story to.
That's the benefit of recap, to a darkroomer.
Could be it's the same benefit that allows you to dart past the eagle when you die, who starts pulling out all of your old trout stories.
To clarify, for traumatic memories 10 minutes, for ordinary memories only 1 turn of the head (isnt that a little?) and all this is alternated for up to 2 hours per session?
It's not "X type of memory = Y type of minutes". 'repeat until you get tired of it' means just that. It might be 2 minutes or 20. And you can return to the same memories. I try to do it until I feel I understood better my perspectives & emotions in the situation - usually it involves me saying or doing something because I wanted someone else to think a certain way about me.
You'll feel your breath change as you go over more intense ones. I try to get down to 2 relatively even sweeps back and forth (even meaning the breath intensity isn't fluctuating, I'm not significantly slowing down over a "bump" in the sweep). Some get super intense, I try to work through these more until the intensity at least settles a bit before going onto the next one.
I suggest you don't set a timer, instead just try it. In my experience it's a bit "addictive" reviewing experiences.
And a timer would interfere with the assemblage point moving.
Not a good idea at all.
Even a hooka would be better than a timer!
You could nicotine yourself into more intense concentration.
But don't do that. If you must, follow Cholita's lead and smoke big cigars.
She learned from Florinda.