I have a question regarding dreaming. I understand dreaming is real, but I recently had an experience that redefined the term real for my limited mind.
I had a dream that my old business partner and I were in our office; it was not the real office we had but an office. We lent some money from 3 guys and apparently did not pay them back lol. They came to collect, and we had a disagreement on the terms. And one of them grabbed me by the balls and squeezed for a good 2 minutes, demanding his money; even though I was in pain, the dream did not end and continued after he let go and left; the weird thing is, when I woke up in my bed, my balls hurt bad for like 10 minutes. It felt like someone really did squeeze them in real life.
Can someone please explain how it is possible? And if it is, how can I protect myself in future situations?
Thank you!
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Inorganic being.
Those can actually move up to 2 ounces in the real world, if they leave the dream and materialize in our current copy of reality.
But perceiving them there requires that your assemblage point move at least 6 inches down your back. Otherwise they remain invisible.
Cholita's can make water bend in the shower, drops on the faucet grow to near the size of a golf ball before falling, it can push objects off tables, and make little dim sum plates move around on a table or bump up into the air an inch or two.
It's true. Many in here have their own "inorganic being" (spirit).
You don't need to protect yourself in the future.
Typically they can only do something nasty like that twice, before they can't get you to focus your attention on it so much that you can't escape.
Or if it does, you'll be the first I ever heard of.
And if you wanted to directly fight back, you'd need to learn some sorcery.
In particular, if you can realize it's a dream at the time, look at your hands. But you have to CONSCIOUSLY look at them.
Not just remember that you saw them at one point.
From your hands, look at any object around you, to see how real it looks.
Then if an inorganic being has you by the balls, pick some detail on it, and stare with all your might. Don't look away for even an instant.
The IOB will jerk and mutate, and dissolve either into a pile of junk on the floor, usually clothes, or it will reveal a bar of intensely glowing light.
But there's no need to tell you what to do next, because you have to develop actual sorcery skills to make use of it.
As a substitute for all that, you could try reasoning with it by showing affection.
That might throw it off.
They'll take affection in place of fear.
But any of those actions requires merging some of your waking rationality, into the dream.
And that's the hardest thing of all to do.
Our community is plagued by people pretending their ordinary dreams are sorcery progress.
And they never manage to find their hands more than once every few months.
Very interesting. Thank you for the info.
I'm not commenting, but I do read posts in this subreddit , and I know you are one of the true veterans of the game, so I appreciate you taking the time to explain.
Can you please elaborate on why I felt the pain in my "normal" reality when the incident occurred in a dream? What made that incident different from other dreams? Or, in other words, was I transported to a different reality with my physical body when the attack occurred, and is that why I felt the pain when I woke up? Things happen in dreams that can be "fatal," but when I usually wake up, I don't feel any physical effects, so I'm just confused.
Also, I read some comments you made in the past about other realities you traveled to where the people you encountered were real people living in those realities. How do you decide if the people you engage in a dream are real or inorganic beings?
I don't have the answer to that, but around 20 years ago I only had contact with people wanting to learn, through email.
And ended up consulting for a witch who was terrified of her snake spirit.
She insisted it was a real demon. One Russians like to summon.
And she had real scratches on her shoulders to prove it could attack for real, and leave a physical mark.
I taught her how to tame it and turn it into a kitten.
Later she wrote back and cursed me, saying now she had a kitten following her around the house, and had lost all of her witchcraft powers.
So the answer is, I have no idea how they can harm you in the real world, but they can in fact "press" against people and hold them on the ground, and they manipulate water, so likely then can have physical effects on your balls if they feel motivated.
Or even scratch you by concentrating their ability to push on things.
They're fully capable of levitating a small object such as a pencil, which I presume could be used to scratch someone.
But they have a complicated system of "rules" they follow, and that kind of attack with no permission or "crime" against them on your part, is likely not something they'd do.
It's impossible to answer that, unless I had been around you secretly watching your behavior for the few months leading up to it.
But it's of no importance. They attack all people in their dreams, and almost nightly for the people who are alert enough to remember their dreams.
They like the "charge" of a human being somewhat aware inside a dream.
In here we do that awake, making it much harder for them to attack you since you have full reasoning ability intact.
More likely it did something to you sleeping on the bed.
"Minx", one of the allies of Carlos who is helping in this subreddit, has physically attacked perhaps 4 people so far.
And partly in the real copy of reality.
Because I do all of my dreaming, fully awake.
I never report sleeping dreams in here, unless there's some specific skill I'm trying to help others know about.
What you read about me, was done fully awake!
Eyes wide open, completely sober and walking around so as to prevent any possibility of dozing off on the furniture, and becoming confused about what actually happened.
I go off into other worlds to interact with the beings there, by breaking the laws of physics and passing through a solid wall, or through the solid ceiling of my room.
In my physical body. Or so it seems at the time.
Which you should learn to do, if you are actually interested in learning sorcery.
Asleep it's difficult to tell an Ally from a dream phantom.
Awake it's easy.
How do you decide if the people you engage in a dream are real or inorganic beings?
Well CC or DJ give us the answer already. Point with your finger towards them while you're dreaming. If they IB they usually transform in to a ball of light(or anything similar). If not, well, they keep holding the same appearance. Do not do this more then a second though since most people don't have enough energy to keep holding a lucid dream and as a result they wake up. I did the same once and I remember how the persons I pointed transformed to a ball of light.
If one perceives an IB awake, does the same act of point a finger / gazing at a detail on them do the same thing?
I don’t think so. This works only in a dream. In the real world = first intention, IB are gonna appear as something very scary. In this case if you have enough energy you can probably manage to gradually reduce your fear up to the point where it disappears completely.THEN the IB is gonna appear to you how it actually looks.
Do you mean they appear as their first intention? Like if its to scare you, thus something scary? Do they have total control over that appearance or does it have to come from your mind?
Obviously, but to be honest no one knows that. The aforementioned answer is what CC tell us(don't remember the book anymore). Maybe they appear so scary to us only because of the fear or they do it intentionally.
Do you mean they appear as their first intention? Like if its to scare you, thus something scary? Do they have total control over that appearance or does it have to come from your mind?
In Darkroom that we do waking dreaming their appearance comes gradually as you learn to move your accemblance point. They don't show up in scary forms especially in the beginning on the green zone. After when you move on to the red if they do so you'll be immune already.
Do you mean immune, as in you wont be scared?
What about the process makes you not scared?
Also, what are their trueforms like if this is the case?
You may get scared but it wont affect you. The process of learning to move your a.p. is gradually and demands that you deal with fear. Fear is the first enemy as Don Juan told. The fear comes for everything unknown for for our human mind.
The inorganic beings have different forms from what we percieve in second attention like bars of light or something like that. We percieve them and befriend them bc they are useful allies helping us move our a.p. and explore the second attention.
The closest thing that happened to me was years I go when I had a "dream"and someone or something whispered to me(I don't remember what exactly). I woke up(I was sleeping in my couch instead of my bed)and I swear(I still remember vividly even today)the IB(?)kept whispering while I already had my eyes open.
Interesting, I once had a dream where I was chilling in front of the main entrance of my school and some birds started gathering one by one besides me, and then suddenly all of them decided to start pecking on me, that's when I gained some kind of awareness of whats happening so I opened my eyes to a false reality (what people call sleep paralysis), no Idea how to term this but I opened them and couldn't move my body even though I was struggling really hard, all I could do was move my eyes and scan the room, but once I decided to close my eyes I was again amidst those fucking birds. So I was basically switching back and forth between my room and the scene in front of my school, the thing is it was REALLY painful because they were pecking on my whole body. It finally came to an end, and once I finally woke up in this reality, I kept feeling pain all over my body for a good couple of minutes which was really strange.