Imagine hypothetical - you can gain power from the Spirit but for that you need do something which goes against your principles. Something vile or disgusting. You can fill the blank for yourself, everyone is different. If "right" answer is yes, then it mean that to be truly free from self-importance is to be a vegetable with no agency on your own. And that is not how Don Juan and Witches is portrayed in the books.
Lets take a step further, lets imagine a situation - a man being is bullied by small Tyrant, Tyrant spit in the man face and then demanding from the man to lick the spit and say "yyaami!!". So logically from the point of "no-self-importance" the man should do that, because in grand scheme of things its does not matter. Is that right? Then merely having any shred of self-esteem is a form of self-importance? Like one of those monk/saint who saying that they will let people rob and kill them without resisting? Whats your opinion?
Well then again, I think that the true warrior who is living right live would just find a way to avert humiliation. But then again doesn't having any "inner" objections to being humiliated is a form of self-pity? I really interested on outside take on this subject.
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You're very confused about what sorcery is.
Better go elsewhere if you're just seeking attention.
In here, you'll get only grief over writing something that horrible.
I should have let the mods find this post and delete it, I suppose...
But we've had several non-experience oriented posts just today, and none have turned out to be harmful so far.
You aren't from the middle east are you?
I'm still trying to figure out what Sufism does to damage people so badly.
What caused you to have such a confused idea of what sorcery is?
How many of the books of Carlos and the witches did you actually read?
To answer your question, you can't be given power from the spirit by doing harm to others.
That's some kind of a Navajo Indian delusion, as far as I've ever heard.
And it's pretty clear they have no real magic going on, or they'd realize that shapeshifting is easy, and doesn't have anything to do with killing your parents.
In truth, sorcerers go over every single event in their life, to re-live it using a specific technique, even time traveling in their physical body to go back and witness it up close.
If they find they did anything bad to anyone who didn't deserve it, they're obligated to track the person down and make restitution.
When dealing with petty tyrants, they aren't allowed to harm anyone.
Just cause the person, to harm their own self.
The way don Juan got the slave owner in eastern Mexico around the turn of the 20th century, to chase him into the horse stalls, where a horse kicked him dead.
But that man had murdered untold numbers of Yaqui prisoners.
The way sorcery works is, you learn to reach "Seeing", or "Silent Knowledge", and then you can gaze, fully awake and eyes wide open, at the emanations themselves.
Or at the whitish light, which might in fact be a reflection of the "shiny outer coating" of your energy body, being restored.
There you find "things" in the air.
Videos of the past you can leap into, for time travel.
Predictions of the future, if you have a "need to know".
Or just random exploration of non-human or abstract realms which you can use to perfect your silence.
Once you can do that, practicing is like rushing home to watch a new episode of your very favorite streaming media show.
One you truly love to watch.
Except, in the case of Silent Knowledge anything you did during the day, or even in the past, can interfere with the process, so that your show stops playing.
The kind of behavior you suggest would NEVER be done by any actual sorcerer.
Sorcerers of the highest skill levels are in fact a bit godlike.
But they don't go around killing world dictators or freeing people from terrorists.
There's 600 alternate worlds they can choose to live in. And each of those has its own petty tyrants and dramas going on, worldwide.
So why would they interfere with any one of those, in particular?
It just creates "debt" on their part, and debt holds you back from exploring infinity freely.
I think he thinks sorcery is a RPG rather than something real (aka pretending). I'm sure you are perfectly aware in video games it is often the case that for a buff, you often have a debuff for example or a strength and a weakness. Just weird stuff like that.
You could do it this way. The reason people are averse to it is exactly why it's done.
The stated purpose of this subreddit is to aid in restoring the reputation of Carlos Castaneda and the knowledge he imparted, which means we are sticking to what really works, as proven by direct experience by long-practicing members. We need to make clear our intent to move away, as a community, from the mistakes others have made. Content that is at-odds with this purpose will, upon review, be removed.
Actually, it was reported that Don Juan and Silvio Manuel, for example, and by default, had reached the point where they were freed of their own trivial/shallow impetuses and simply acquiesced to the directives they received from infinity via their seeing (silent knowledge).
Their will then came into play to follow through, with no blocks/shields, "synchronized" and powered by forces orders of magnitude more intelligent and capable than they were.
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"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is."
Yoda, Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (1980)