This is impossible to draw, but I felt compelled to at least try. In order to explain to you that there's no topic in the books which you won't eventually perceive yourself, and usually come to realize how badly you misunderstood it, from what you read of it.
Don Juan tried his hardest to explain things, but until you've seen it "with your own eyes", you come up with all sorts of greedy expectations which obliterate the meaning of what don Juan was trying to tell us.
As Carlos used to say, the problem is that our language has no syntax for some of the most important things humans can know.
One is for the layers which block perception of the unknown.
Hopefully you can read about it in that tiny text on the side which was accumulated by people in a chat room, who heard that I was interested in drawing a picture showing that you can in fact perceive the human form directly, and come to understand where it comes from.
But still not be able to describe it adequately to others, due to a lack of magical syntax in our language.
By the way, this is no exaggeration for how visual things get when you reach Silent Knowledge.
Carlos was right of course to suggest you not insist on "concreteness" like this.
Meaning, you have a choice. Once you "know" something is there, don't insist on seeing it. That burns up energy.
Same as in sleeping dreams! Only glance at things, don't stare.
But sleeping dreaming has the hazard of lucidity being easy to lose, whereas waking dreaming does not.
The main hazard with waking dreaming is becoming sleepy. And if you just keep some coffee around, you can push that off for a while.
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Hi Dann! Feeling sleepy and start to seeing some hipnogogics images while gazing, had give me the idea that it’s easier to stop my internal dialogue! Is this just a fantasy or could it have some basis?
Gazing is the fastest path to the second attention.
Don Juan had all of his apprentices doing gazing. Leaf gazing, stream gazing.
It's an attempt to work around forcing off the internal dialogue, by using the second attention.
Also, playing on the edge of falling asleep is another way you can "cheat".
But however you learn to perceive the second attention, it's important that you do that daily, in order to make it stronger and stronger. Indicating you moved your assemblage point further.
Thanks!
Interesting, I was wondering about something related - I had some shifts in the past via gazing, but nothing visual so probably they were too small but I have not tried to stop the internal dialogue at all and in the same time it mostly stopped by itself somehow when I noticed I was shifted- I was still seeing the same world, visually no different but at the same time it was like some additional feelings or information was coming out of every thing I put my focus on.
The other strange thing is that I can no longer do it that way, I'm now used to try to force silence and maybe I'm still not very good at it as I get even smaller shifts now :)
This helps a lot.
Btw
So if assembly point never comes back to old human implementation of the world after loss of human form, does that also mean you will never come back to old self-pity assembly point by default? Perhaps there will be still self-pity position but it will be very different from what regular human fixed position on regular basis is?
We don't know.
Everyone in the lineages got the Nagual's blow, so everything was more dramatic than we get to witness.
We're seeing it all very slowly, inch by inch.
So no one has the answer to that.
Was don Juan's lineage more like the Sith?
The old seers certainly were. As one recent book quote said, they wanted to control everything.
But the new seers didn't like being exposed to the public, and weren't interested in controlling anything. They were explorers.
Explorers don't go out and start dominating the things they're exploring.
How the new seers passed on their knowledge, maybe, was a bit Sith like.
They inflicted it on others using the Nagual's blow.
But I can't imagine anyone complaining later one.
Does Spiderman hate the spider that bit him?
I guess we need more data----> more people to reach place of no pity, I wonder how energy mass will change with 20 people getting there on a daily basis
What makes the sourcerer push assembly point faster down j curve? Silence + ... ?
That's what sorcery is all about. Figuring out the ... ?
Hi I’m not a native english speaker and I couldn’t have found any translation of the word “Tumbler”, could you give a small hint about what it could mean in small words?
I would also want to add that I’m currently reading the literature. I will delete this comment if the question is out of place.
Hi, also non-native english speaker here, too…Tumbler means a force that causes something to drop or fall; this word is difficult to translate from English to Spanish as well, as in Spanish it can mean ‘falling’ but it is also a term that refers to a cup or drinking vessel…
Tumbling like rolling. It’s also the “rolling force”
Search for a photo of a “somersault” and I think you’ll have it
I once had a visitor from Taiwan who seemed to love the old west. I guess they see movies and TV shows about it in Asia. And like them as much as we like the Japanese Samurai movies.
So we drove to Calico Ghost Town, where he could see a small piece of the old west, centered around a Silver Mine.
On the way through the desert, a small whirlwind crossed the road, kicking up so much dust you could hardly see what was ahead.
Then a tumbleweed rolled towards us.
I was thinking, I sure never saw that before!
He was thinking, that's just how this part of the world is!