Here's a vision I got to explore around 3AM, while getting help from Silent Knowledge on how to make the new "Alternate Timelines" cartoon.
AWAKE!!!
Never bother other people with your pointless sleeping dreams.
It's bad for our community, and Carlos never tolerated it.
I've been getting wonderful help for the new cartoon! Impossible to explain until you've seen it with your own eyes, but it's also precisely how our sorcery works.
"Seeing" takes many forms, and Porfirio from the books is a classic example of seeing taking the form of an entity, showing you what you need to "know".
But all Silent Knowledge visions can turn very real, as this example shows.
First, I saw just a small pile of vegetables and fruit. No context. It was just a little pile.
It was floating in the air in front of me, surrounded by amazing sights that were too abstract to describe.
That's "Silent Knowledge".
But it's not yet "total perception or total cohesion" as don Juan described, which the old seers sought avidly.
I next noticed the vegetables were in a basket, which got my interest.
The basket was on a blanket, the blanket was on the ground, and suddenly I found myself at a picnic, with "the love of my life".
Total Cohesion at last!
But then comes the HAZARD.
Any alternate reality which feels totally real to you, comes with a "dream history".
Where you forget who you are. And become the person in the dream history.
And worse, the inorganic beings know that and will be waiting to take over the phantoms in the new reality, to keep you trapped and interacting only with them.
Womb dreaming is plagued by this problem of "dream histories" sucking you in and making you forget what you wanted to do.
Let me emphasize here, if we have any new people who believe they are learning sorcery via their dreams, you guys are hopeless.
Except women using womb dreaming.
Sleeping dreaming for men is only a path to making you a big pest in our community, who spreads such bad information around, you bury the fact that our sorcery is the only real magic visible on the web.
If there's anything else real, no one has been able to point to it in the last 5 years with thousands flowing through here.
So don't spread around your make believe centering around ignoring the instructions in Art of Dreaming, so that you can try to fool yourself and others.
That's not a path to sorcery. It's just low quality lucid dreaming, which leads nowhere.
Do your dreaming AWAKE!
That's what Silent Knowledge is.
Namely, the refined version of occasional visions and waking dreams during the process of learning darkroom.
You could do this with gazing also. That would be "direct entry to dreams, from awake".
Those count too!
And you can do this through recapitulation.
Or by forcing silence while focusing on your womb, if you have one.
Just never through sleeping dreaming.
Here's relevant information uncovered by Athina to help me use the words of don Juan, in the cartoon. She wanted to add, "In the first page is a conversation with Carlos and Don Juan before meeting the dead defier and the other pages are part of the conversation Carlos had with the dead defier that had the form of a woman."
Unfortunately, our community is filled with so many bad men that they'll attack anything which contradicts the fake sorcery they've been peddling to others, not caring that what you see here is obviously the real thing, from direct students of Carlos and others who have worked hard to do what Carlos instructed us to do after he was gone.
So the "sorcery basics" cartoons have to show relevant passages from the books whenever possible. Which makes the screen a bit cluttered. I'll try to make sure there's none of that in the Dance Home cartoons, so that they flow like any Disney+ Star Wars cartoon.
These quotes are excellent, and show how the old seers were obsessed with realism. And maybe partly because realism comes with a dream history, which helps you battle against your own sense of "continuity".
And another:
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I disagree with what La Gorda said there, but that's often the case.
You don't go to sleep in the twin position.
If you do, there's next to zero chance you'll still be in the same position, when you finally get into a dream. You'll have tossed and turned into a different position.
And there's also a very low chance you'll remember at all that you need to lay down and go to sleep inside the dream.
So why she said that, I have no idea. But La Gorda is famous for saying odd things in the books, which turn out not to be very useful.
Some she says is great! Such as that any darkroom vision you have is "stopping the world".
The writings of Carlos are greatly exaggerated on what that means.
But she's right. If you see a puff, you "stopped the world" in order to perceive that.
But as far as "the third gate", Carlos said it was impossible to reach that, unless you could get rid of your internal dialogue.
Which means, you have possession of Silent Knowledge!
What you do is, use Silent Knowledge to enter into a dream, by looking for it floating in the air in front of you.
Something trivial to do once you can remove your internal dialogue.
Which La Gorda could.
Possibly she said that because she had no knowledge of how badly things have gone in our community, from all the sleeping dreams pretending we're drowning in.
Once you can reach Silent Knowledge, you watch it until you just can't go on, then lay on your side, and keep watching it, to find a nice dream to enter, directly from awake.
It's like Swiss cheese while you're laying there. Same color, and those large holes will be visible dreams once in a while.
This time the text is from the Death Defier. But even then, it shows clearly the depths that sorcery goes to versus lucid dreaming. She says that *the first step* to total perception is "total materialization of an object inside the dream". So unless you have a totem like in inception, you aren't even at the first step yet.
Wow, I didn't read what Athina provided.
I usually only scan to make sure it's on topic, but then Carlos told us to stop reading his books and I tend to obey that order.
Total materialization of an object seems like my fruit pile turning into a vivid picnic basket, inside the dream.
But it's not a very insightful explanation of the "first step".
I suppose the old seers were simply practical, and just said what they did rather than analyze why that works in the first place.
Could be they didn't have the full understanding the new seers do, so trying to explain "why" it works, wasn't in their reach.
For example, they believed God was a real being. A protector.
Didn't realize it was just residual awareness from all the people praying to him to get stuff.
But if you ever meet him, you'll find that he does indeed expect you to ask for something.
And will possibly even remind you as he did me, if you don't ask anything.
Myself, I was just figuring out which direction to run as fast as possible, where I might not bang into furniture in my room.
To get away.
Absolutely! The Death Defier says here "And don't ask me why, It just happens. Like everything else." She is definitely practical. A complete and total lack of interest in explanations and analysis.
Carlos said not to read the books? really? did he say why? and what did he suggest people do instead?
Yes, but that instruction was for Dan. Because many people get attached to the words on the books and don't focus on the practical aspect of the teachings. Carlos wanted people to get practical and to get results because time was very tight. He also said to be celibate, want to try that one?
Thanks, good answer.
The celibate part sucks I suppose, but it's been 29 years now.
Cholita knows about it, and once in a while she'll walk by me in a see through shirt wearing only panties under it...
But not as often as I'd like.
Did that include masturbating too?
Carlos never answered that while I was around.
And Cleargreen used to have female orgies. Didn't even hide it well.
With lesbian jokes by Carlos from time to time, such as asking who would want to wake up in the morning and see Kylie's face, with one of the inner circle women quickly answering "I would!"
So there was sex galore going on... In fact, there's some suggestions that sorcery is VERY sexual for women. Especially dreaming.
Which makes sense if you're a male on the "victim" end of that situation.
But it was sex outside the social order, which changes things. Strategic sex even.
Sex inside the social order is like a big chain around your angle, connecting you to a dwelling.
Some can't even come up with a room they can darken, due to sexual customs.
So part of what's bad about sex, is just the judeo/christian traditions which surround it. Seemingly designed to help the children, but in reality designed to accommodate over crowding and humans having been forced to live in unnatural conditions of confinement to rooms their entire life.
The problem there is, if the levels of sex going on in the lineages had been widely known then the evil bad player "me-too" cults formed around bad men, would have included sexual abuse.
Of course, they did anyway.
I shouldn't leave out that to start a new lineage, the old nagual first finds 5 women, and THEN finds the male. In the case of Elias, all 5 women became his wives.
There's a reason for that. When men are around women, the women lend them dark energy.
It's noticeable if you are a sorcerer! You just "luck out" because you were around a woman, who might not even be aware of what she's done.
As for masturbation, I'd say the harm is far less than actually having sex. For all of the above reasons.
Carlos did warn against pornography, but mostly because eventually you'll escalate to pictures of women being choked.
Which has indeed happened on many porn sites.
But pales in comparison to Rambo part 6. Or was it 7?
The problem there is that in Silent Knowledge, any trace concerns can trigger a vision in the air.
And those will be colored by what you have seen recently.
But it could also be that that inorganic beings are aware of the porn you look at, and will modify their tactics to fit in with it.
One can only hope...
This actually answered more questions I had that were in my mind that were more significant than the role of masturbation… the role of sex in the lineages
We're stuck in this biology.
You can't really fight it.
So the best you can do is be "natural" about it.
Which modern man is NOT.
I thought of an analogy last night while in Silent Knowledge, but it seemed better with the visuals that came along as a result of that state.
In this picture, we're convinced we ARE the machine.
But in fact, we're the electricity.
Except that it's plugged into the machine while we're alive. And you can't do much about that.
Just have to let the machine do what it does, but only what it's designed to do.
Then later, we get to be just the "energy", and go off to explore all possible machines we can run.
Even explore the power lines.
And maybe what's between them, if Carlos went where I believe he went.
Worm being the emanations?
No. Men implant sperm, and when "seen" it's like a worm feeding on the awareness of the women, for 7 years.
I'm not sure why it lasts so long after the sperm has died.
But it was pretty clear in private classes that women won't get the full effect of celibacy, for 7 years.
Cholita was nearly there when I took her in, and she was already quite powerful.
Could be she blew it, and that's why her double hasn't visited me in my dark room for years.
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So what does one do when recapping and experiences another reality? I'm excited to experience different realities however for recapping history I don't want to go back in time & be suddenly stuck there like a groundhog day loop. Maybe you're just supposed to remember you can change where you're at, wherever you're at?
Time travel during recap isn't the same as going to a cyclic being world in the present but on an alternate timeline.
Which is likely where the problem of getting stuck can occur.
I don't believe there's any risk with recap, since it's the past.
Other than if you have latent mental illness, and it triggers some delusions.
But then you're in that situation already.
A Russian woman I tried to help for years via email had that problem, so she had to give up recap. She kept uncovering false memories, and would act on them before figuring out that never happened.
Such as accusing men of raping her.
But that's typical of schizophrenia anyway!
And her problem was that she wasn't actually interested in sorcery at all.
She wanted to find a "spiritual husband" with sorcery appealing to her as more "real".
She finally got tricked by a Dzogchen Russian cult leader, who had her doing "charity work" so as not to trigger an of her schizophrenia.
Dzogchen people have no shame...
Great, thanks for clarifying Dan.
With regards to escaping / leaving cyclic worlds, is there something I can do to prepare myself? I've found the recap breath & ending with an exhale helps me sober up in the morning from sleeping dreams, would that help?
Just don't pick up anything, don't read anything, don't steal anything, don't put on any clothes.
And don't stay too long. You'll know how to go back, it's intuitive. You just "turn your head" the direction from which you came, which is odd because how could you know that in the first place?
I stayed in one for a couple of hours, but didn't run into any actual people there. It was some cyclic being copy of myself where I was living far from people in a desert.
Cool, thanks.