Dreaming

Have a question about scouts...orange ones...why did Don Juan say that they are deadly and most dangerous? Sheere poison? What else is there to know about them? Been seeing one, but not the other types. And those dreams are always violent, filled with rage.

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u/danl999 8 points 2024-09-26 14:42

The "orange scout" was a person. A woman to be precise.

Cholita hoped to be her, but it turned out to be one of the women you can find in the tensegrity videos.

Otherwise, I don't understand what context you're using it in. Where did you read about it?

The "scouts" don't have any real appearance you could perceive.

Whatever you see inside a dream, is your doing.

Even when you see them fully awake, it's "all you".

You send your awareness into the emanations as a matter of normal perception of the world.

Then inject some of theirs in order to create an appearance, which comes back from the latent awareness flowing in the sea of the emanations.

For instance, any sorcerer can visit "God" on demand.

The real god! Nothing imaginary. You do it fully awake, eyes wide open, and completely sober.

And likewise you can visit heaven. I used to do that to get over severe hangovers, such as you can get doing business in Asia where they use drinking as a form of business hazing.

But those are just collected awareness from all the people who ever prayed to God, or visualized heaven.

It leaves a latent effect in the emanations, and if you get some related to those humming with your awareness, and are silent, the rest can bloom into view and you find yourself at the foot of god.

Ready to run for your life the first time!

The allies, when you are awake and perceiving them, so something similar.

When you're asleep, they take over the phantoms you yourself have created, to populate your dream.

You might want to learn to dissolve your scouts, by pointing your finger at them and ordering them to stop, while you stare at the smallest detail without wavering your attention.

They'll melt and contort and either turn into some trash on the ground, or open up and reveal more of what they actually look like.

And those dreams are always violent, filled with rage.

Talk to the witches in here.

They also use sex to terrorize witches if they can.

Although I've heard some of the women don't mind.

Can't say that I'd mind a scout pretending to be a beautiful woman in a bikini!

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u/WitchyCreatureView 1 points 2024-09-26 15:25

So is the blue scout orange scout thing that the scout went into the woman or associated with them? Or was it just bullshit basically?

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u/danl999 6 points 2024-09-26 15:37

We don't know.

But to call it bullshit ignores that sorcery actually works, and you can in fact "change who you are".

Better to do that using Tensegrity, so that you're only a different person while engaged in it.

That way you avoid the potential egotism of pretending.

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u/WitchyCreatureView 1 points 2024-09-26 18:19

Bullshit here means social dynamics, even if in a silent knowledge state you can see that it works well.

If there was an inorganic being actually sharing the awareness inside the woman's body that's interesting.

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u/danl999 5 points 2024-09-26 18:40

That's the story with Carol Tiggs also, who says you get an "upgrade".

But it really doesn't matter once you gaze nightly directly into the Nagual so far that no mystic or religious icon has even discussed its existence.

I don't mean that they haven't made up nonsense, like "The Tao".

Or some Buddhist claim of a higher state that's incomprehensible to others unless they spend a lifetime giving everything they have to that miserable religion.

Those are clearly marketing ploys.

Peering clearly into the Nagual produces a "Holy Shit!!! I had no idea." type reaction.

Then it changes again a week later and you think, "What's going on here???"

There's no peace, no attainment, no reaching the goal.

It's endless. And always so new, you can't compare it to much from before.

The idea that you'd put on a weird priest's hat and parade around as a result of advanced knowledge of reality, is offensive.

Once you get to perceive the real thing nightly, all you figure about what Carlos was up to is that most likely some day it'll make sense.

Too bad about Patty. I would have taken her in as I did with Cholita.

But what happened to her was perfectly consistent with the stories Carlos told about her.

Likely she just drove to death valley and parked there.

Figuring she'd follow Carlos as she supposedly did before.

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u/WitchyCreatureView 3 points 2024-09-26 19:33

Also we should be more comfortable with curse words here. Carlos would have liked it.

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u/danl999 3 points 2024-09-27 11:29

Carlos had a foul mouth. Anyone who was around him much likely picked it up.

But then so did don Juan.

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u/WitchyCreatureView 0 points 2024-09-27 12:19

Saintly could be a legitimate perspective of you're a Jedi and can see what effect it has. The Sith perspective is a different intent. You might be a Gray Jedi.

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u/danl999 3 points 2024-09-27 13:02

Well they canceled "The Apostle", but in that version set hundreds of years earlier than the original, the Jedi were quite flawed, and often very annoying.

One commited suicide because he lied about who killed a group of witches and destroyed the life of one of their children.

But like I said, they canceled that version...

In favor of "Baby Yoda".

Typical Disney.

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 2 points 2024-09-27 13:31

Gray Jedi are not canon. It's made-up by other people! Hiss!

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u/WitchyCreatureView 1 points 2024-09-27 14:29

I think Ahsoka with a white lightsaber and force-choking people is basically Gray Jedi stuff that got integrated into canon.

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 3 points 2024-09-27 14:52

Even better, Luke Skywalker force chokes guards in Return of the Jedi, I guess we can call him Gray too.

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u/WitchyCreatureView 1 points 2024-09-27 17:35

Part of the point of that is that he was experimenting with the dark side during that time and was wearing all-black, and it wasn't yet known in the universe if he was going to turn to the emperor's side yet.

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 3 points 2024-09-27 17:55

""Don't give me that combination nonsense,"

There's only light side and dark side :)

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u/Poetela 2 points 2024-09-26 15:45

I read about it in "the art of dreaming". I was wondering what happens if you follow them..into what kind of world do they take you?

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u/danl999 3 points 2024-09-28 12:38

One can't really say because their actual world is so different from ours that we can't perceive it directly. There's not enough overlap.

So in "art of dreaming", you might recall that Carlos and Carol Tiggs found themselves in a shack, naked, with clothes on the bed. If they put the clothes on, they'd be trapped forever.

That was one view of the IOB world.

The "men of knowledge" or perhaps the old seers, saw their world as the realm of the brujos.

But when you see it awake, using darkroom, it's likely to look look a cave.

With a tunnel entrance.

Carol Tiggs gave me entry to that tunnel and she discusses it, or the witches do, in some workshop lecture notes.

I believe I have a post somewhere showing it.

Remember, most of what we'd perceive if we visited their world in our current state, would be phantom additions to the very little we're actually capable of perceiving, due to overlap in their range of emanations, and ours.

None of this is meant to imply it's not real, just that it's mostly phantom.

But you can still visit there with others. Even go in and "rescue" people.

We know that from the blue scout, but also from plans the witches mentioned, to go rescue don juan in case he got stuck there, which later on they decided he didn't.

Julian however did, and could be rescued if anyone among us rose to that level.

Cholita could do it, but you can't get her motivated.

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u/Sternenkrieger88 1 points 2025-10-09 10:42

Ich bin dem orangefarbenen Scout ebenfalls begegnet, vor etwa acht Jahren. Er ist von selbst erschienen, ohne das ich es beabsichtigt hatte. Zuerst begegnete ich dem Todestrotzer in der zweiten Aufmerksamkeit, und die Stimme des Traumbotschafters verriet mir seine und meine energetische Struktur. Angeblich ist er ein drei Zack Nagual, der träumen und sehen beides auf der linken Seite hat. Ein paar Wochen später begegnete ich dann dem orangefarbenen Scout in der anorganischen Zwillingswelt. Wieder ein paar Wochen später begegnete ich dann dem Todestrotzer in der zweiten Aufmerksamkeit, er nahm mich mit in die anorganische Zwillingswelt und dort begegneten wir gemeinsam dem orangefarbenen Scout. Der Todestrotzer stieg in den orangefarbenen Scout hinein und sie verschmolzen zu einem Wesen und man konnte deutlich erkennen wer er war.

Hast du den orangen Scout zu dir gerufen oder ist er von selbst erschienen? Welche Vorgehensweise hat er bei dir benutzt? Ich bin gespannt auf deine Antwort!