The website for the project, https://remspace.net , includes a link to a page referencing Castaneda (with the wrong photo!), after their supplement and product offerings:
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u/pumpkinjumper1210
2 points2024-10-14 00:45
Thanks for posting, it's interesting seeing what's out there.
Personally I don't want an "AI" to hear me snore and tell me to wake up, I think I'd rather invest in a CPAP machine.
The page titled "Carlos Castaneda – Download Books and Biography" has a link to download the phase - a lucid dreaming book by a different author. Feels like Netflix saying "we don't have that, but ..."
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u/danl999
6 points2024-10-14 10:36
That of course is a group obsessed at least a little with Carlos, but I saw a "dark room retreat" offering in my email last week, which explained how it's a coming trend.
So what we do will get watered down and turned into some other franchise, and there's not much we can do about it other than try to "up the ante".
With even better magic they have to explain or copy.
To avoid being blown away by all the noise.
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u/No-Negotiation-5493
1 points2024-10-14 21:10
Considering they don't list the exact milligrams for each ingredient, the supplement is probably underdosed trash.
You can gain far better results in Dreaming with a snus pouch in your mouth.
(Zyn and its derivatives will probably burn a hole in your gums and taste like shift after a prolonged sleep period.)
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u/Imaginary_Neck_8267
1 points2024-10-15 00:39
That’s an interesting tech. At some point they’ll probably pair the tech with some substance that extends the dreaming time and makes it more likely to be lucid. We already have a few of those in the market.
The whole thing would make dreaming so easy it would probably kill the intent.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
3 points2024-10-15 00:52
Being lucid only sets up the opportunity to engage in 4 Gates Dreaming. It could open the door, and prematurely, but there's a lot of effort and strategy/steps beyond that!
The lack of silence will still be a curse and inhibit waking state integration of what's learned in dreaming.
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u/No-Negotiation-5493
1 points2024-10-15 01:23
You also forgot the whole polyphasic sleeping part—which becomes exceedingly easier in heightened awareness—and unless you are a masochist, a maneuver that cannot be achieved without that preemptive state.
Overall, it is sort of just trash—I wouldn't give up physical ability or gym performance to do this.
Women won't do it either, so you're only left with a certain subset of men willing to go through with it.
The whole idea of womb dreaming is that it is "easy."
Framing it this way, you've killed everyone's chances, regardless of gender, for learning this at any form of advanced level.
Just don't talk to me—or anyone—about your dreams, or you will make everyone fall asleep.
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u/No-Negotiation-5493
1 points2024-10-15 11:43
I have nowhere else to put this.
Have you noticed how individuals with fucked-up Tonals are usually the ones that dream the best?
The Lineages actually made use of this.
I'm going to go against the grain here and postulate that men's initial mediocrity in dreaming is, for all intents and purposes, a favorable aspect that will bolster their development in the long run—and not necessarily a sign of any formative or insurmountable deficit.
Okay, I've done my dues here now.
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u/Emergency-Total-4851
1 points2024-10-15 11:59
As long as you include waking dreaming into that too, it definitely seems to be the case. I had a beyond fucked-up tonal before I found sorcery, and I barely dream at night (except when I put effort into recap).
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u/No-Negotiation-5493
1 points2024-10-15 12:17
The Soviets are the most irrational people on earth—I've never had this problem.
Most of psychology would disagree with you regarding the relationship between sleeping dreaming, trauma, and bad experiences.
Are you able to read text in dreams? Lucidity and frequency are not good barometers due to the aforementioned reasons.
Most individuals don't waking dream naturally, unless they have an exorbitant amount of energy, are an alcoholic, or a child.
You can't "assess" your own Tonal; it is a form of self-reflection.
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u/Emergency-Total-4851
1 points2024-10-15 12:35
I would have done fine as a street kid in Soviet Russia, I found it amusing to get people who picked fights with me to potentially be scarred for life. That all stopped when I decided I would rather be a sorcerer.
Maybe I just shove my dreams where I can't remember them at all?
When I practiced recap intensely, I was actually fully wavering between sleeping dreaming and waking dreaming once. I fell asleep and had a dream that my teeth were breaking while I was in bed, I stood up in the dream and watched my teeth fall out of my mouth onto the floor, and then I realized I was actually standing in the real world as well, and my teeth were fine.
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u/No-Negotiation-5493
1 points2024-10-15 14:00
Did you know Christians are the only ones that believe Jesus's teachings of forgiveness?
According to Judaic and Muhammadan Theology, only God can forgive—and since they don't believe that Christ was begotten of that title, his acts of absolution thereby had no divine jurisdiction.
What he actually taught was a sacred forgetting—the first mover; a wheel that turns itself.
All is remembrance and remains never-after.
(Not endorsing religion—just a fun fact about "recap.")
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u/Emergency-Total-4851
1 points2024-10-15 14:06
What he actually taught was a sacred forgetting—the first mover; a wheel that turns itself.
All is remembrance and remains never-after.
Translate that into plain language for me, please?
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u/No-Negotiation-5493
1 points2024-10-15 15:13
LOL—I don't know; think bungee cord?
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u/Emergency-Total-4851
1 points2024-10-15 15:20
Okay, take care! I've been punched in the face a lot, so I don't do flowery language too well.
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u/No-Negotiation-5493
1 points2024-10-15 15:35
I'm just giving a backhanded compliment to Jesus—it's not that serious.
Rarely is with me...
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u/Emergency-Total-4851
1 points2024-10-15 15:52
Yeah, all good, just if someone says something sorcery-adjacent to me, and I don't understand it, then I'd like to understand it, but if you don't have the words for it, it's all good.
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u/AthinaJ8
1 points2024-10-15 20:50
The whole idea of womb dreaming is that it is "easy."
Framing it this way, you've killed everyone's chances, regardless of gender, for learning this at any form of advanced level.
It's true that we haven't emphasized enough that women don't get it nessesarily easy. They have to work their asses off too, to progress. It's the same amount of work whether some have it easier than others.
Women's only asset are their wombs being organs that can potentially percieve energy directly, while men don't.
That neans that women learn differently but still they have to strive for progress like men do.
Because women have this asset are more suitable for using it for sleeping dreaming complimentary with other practices.
For men is better to do waking dreaming since is more suitable for the way they learn, it's bullshit free and very potent. I guess for men is better getting into sleeping dreaming naturally as a complimentary practice to their advanced waking dreaming sessions. At least in my experience I've seen this work better for them. It's more reliable.
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u/No-Negotiation-5493
1 points2024-10-17 21:27
I agree with you.
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent
1 points2024-10-17 20:52
A somewhat more understandable video describing what this experiment entailed:
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The website for the project, https://remspace.net , includes a link to a page referencing Castaneda (with the wrong photo!), after their supplement and product offerings:
Thanks for posting, it's interesting seeing what's out there.
Personally I don't want an "AI" to hear me snore and tell me to wake up, I think I'd rather invest in a CPAP machine.
The page titled "Carlos Castaneda – Download Books and Biography" has a link to download the phase - a lucid dreaming book by a different author. Feels like Netflix saying "we don't have that, but ..."
That of course is a group obsessed at least a little with Carlos, but I saw a "dark room retreat" offering in my email last week, which explained how it's a coming trend.
So what we do will get watered down and turned into some other franchise, and there's not much we can do about it other than try to "up the ante".
With even better magic they have to explain or copy.
To avoid being blown away by all the noise.
Considering they don't list the exact milligrams for each ingredient, the supplement is probably underdosed trash.
You can gain far better results in Dreaming with a snus pouch in your mouth.
(Zyn and its derivatives will probably burn a hole in your gums and taste like shift after a prolonged sleep period.)
That’s an interesting tech. At some point they’ll probably pair the tech with some substance that extends the dreaming time and makes it more likely to be lucid. We already have a few of those in the market.
The whole thing would make dreaming so easy it would probably kill the intent.
Being lucid only sets up the opportunity to engage in 4 Gates Dreaming. It could open the door, and prematurely, but there's a lot of effort and strategy/steps beyond that!
The lack of silence will still be a curse and inhibit waking state integration of what's learned in dreaming.
You also forgot the whole polyphasic sleeping part—which becomes exceedingly easier in heightened awareness—and unless you are a masochist, a maneuver that cannot be achieved without that preemptive state.
Overall, it is sort of just trash—I wouldn't give up physical ability or gym performance to do this.
Women won't do it either, so you're only left with a certain subset of men willing to go through with it.
The whole idea of womb dreaming is that it is "easy."
Framing it this way, you've killed everyone's chances, regardless of gender, for learning this at any form of advanced level.
Just don't talk to me—or anyone—about your dreams, or you will make everyone fall asleep.
I have nowhere else to put this.
Have you noticed how individuals with fucked-up Tonals are usually the ones that dream the best?
The Lineages actually made use of this.
I'm going to go against the grain here and postulate that men's initial mediocrity in dreaming is, for all intents and purposes, a favorable aspect that will bolster their development in the long run—and not necessarily a sign of any formative or insurmountable deficit.
Okay, I've done my dues here now.
As long as you include waking dreaming into that too, it definitely seems to be the case. I had a beyond fucked-up tonal before I found sorcery, and I barely dream at night (except when I put effort into recap).
The Soviets are the most irrational people on earth—I've never had this problem.
Most of psychology would disagree with you regarding the relationship between sleeping dreaming, trauma, and bad experiences.
Are you able to read text in dreams? Lucidity and frequency are not good barometers due to the aforementioned reasons.
Most individuals don't waking dream naturally, unless they have an exorbitant amount of energy, are an alcoholic, or a child.
You can't "assess" your own Tonal; it is a form of self-reflection.
I would have done fine as a street kid in Soviet Russia, I found it amusing to get people who picked fights with me to potentially be scarred for life. That all stopped when I decided I would rather be a sorcerer.
Maybe I just shove my dreams where I can't remember them at all?
When I practiced recap intensely, I was actually fully wavering between sleeping dreaming and waking dreaming once. I fell asleep and had a dream that my teeth were breaking while I was in bed, I stood up in the dream and watched my teeth fall out of my mouth onto the floor, and then I realized I was actually standing in the real world as well, and my teeth were fine.
Did you know Christians are the only ones that believe Jesus's teachings of forgiveness?
According to Judaic and Muhammadan Theology, only God can forgive—and since they don't believe that Christ was begotten of that title, his acts of absolution thereby had no divine jurisdiction.
What he actually taught was a sacred forgetting—the first mover; a wheel that turns itself.
All is remembrance and remains never-after.
(Not endorsing religion—just a fun fact about "recap.")
What he actually taught was a sacred forgetting—the first mover; a wheel that turns itself.
All is remembrance and remains never-after.
Translate that into plain language for me, please?
LOL—I don't know; think bungee cord?
Okay, take care! I've been punched in the face a lot, so I don't do flowery language too well.
I'm just giving a backhanded compliment to Jesus—it's not that serious.
Rarely is with me...
Yeah, all good, just if someone says something sorcery-adjacent to me, and I don't understand it, then I'd like to understand it, but if you don't have the words for it, it's all good.
It's true that we haven't emphasized enough that women don't get it nessesarily easy. They have to work their asses off too, to progress. It's the same amount of work whether some have it easier than others.
Women's only asset are their wombs being organs that can potentially percieve energy directly, while men don't.
That neans that women learn differently but still they have to strive for progress like men do.
Because women have this asset are more suitable for using it for sleeping dreaming complimentary with other practices.
For men is better to do waking dreaming since is more suitable for the way they learn, it's bullshit free and very potent. I guess for men is better getting into sleeping dreaming naturally as a complimentary practice to their advanced waking dreaming sessions. At least in my experience I've seen this work better for them. It's more reliable.
I agree with you.
A somewhat more understandable video describing what this experiment entailed:
GT - Two people communicated during lucid dreams?