Was Carlos assassinated by the CIA?

I'll remove the post if it's not the right topic for this subreddit.

"He died of liver cancer on April 27 at his home in Los Angeles, said Deborah Drooz, an entertainment lawyer, friend of Mr. Castaneda and executor of his estate. She said he had suffered from the illness for at least 10 months. After his death, his body was cremated and the remains were sent to Mexico, she added."

- https://web.archive.org/web/20150314195555/http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/20/arts/carlos-castaneda-mystical-and-mysterious-writer-dies.html

" (Atheism) It has been heavily enforced for centuries by killing off the people with shamanic knowledge (shamans, medicine men, native tribes---the purpose of the 'witch' purges---good psychics were purged by fast acting cancers in the 90's (see), and replacing them with people who are under their control eg Robertson, & Billy Graham who was a 33 degree Mason)"

- http://www.whale.to/b/atheism.html

(Note that I have nothing against Atheists personally, that's just the article. I'm more interested in the government assassination aspects. See MLK, Malcolm X, Operation 40, the Dallas occupy plot, maybe JFK. Also worth noting is that the USA hasn't signed the International Convention for the Protection of All Persons from Enforced Disappearance (ICCPED))

"So many people have been done in by cancer at a convenient time in history that conspiracy buffs wonder if you can "give" people cancer. I recall the propitious cancer deaths of Jack Ruby, William Casey, Martha Mitchell, the Shah of Iran, Mae Brussell, and others. (Even O.J. Simpson was tested for lymphoma cancer in a swollen lymph node while imprisoned awaiting trial for murder.) Can you kill people by injecting them with cancer viruses and bacteria? Of course! No one in their right mind would want blood from a dying cancer or AIDS patient. Can you give a person cancer? If cancer in animals can be caused by injecting them with cancer viruses and bacteria, it would certainly be possible to do the same with human beings!---[1994] Is Cancer Contagious? by Alan Cantwell

Dr. Karla Turner died of cancer on January 10, 1996, after being threatened for her work. She was just 48. Since then, several other people involved in UFO investigation have also experienced threats followed by highly unusual cancers.

- http://www.whale.to/b/assassination_disease.html

"The House Select Committee on Assassinations established that cancer was used by the CIA to carry out illegal covert assassinations.^([1]) Many people involved in either carrying out or investigating deep politics have died from cancer. However, it is usually very difficult to differentiate randomly occurring from deliberately generated cases of cancer.

In some cases, the CIA dart gun is a potentially risky means of infection with cancerous cells, and exemplifies their technology from 40 years ago. People already in custody (such as Jack Ruby) would have been particularly easy targets.

Fast growing malignant forms of cancer are preferred as assassination tools due to their speed of effect and poor prognosis. Victims of particularly aggressive cancer include David McGowan (55) and Mae Brussell (66).

Younger victims inevitably raise more suspicion that older ones. Younger victims of cancer include Bill Hicks (32) and Bob Marley (36). Ole Dammegård suggests that Bob Marley's fatal cancer was given him by an injury caused by piece of wire in a pair of cowboy boots given to him by William Colby's son."

- https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Cancer

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I asked Chatgpt if Carlos had any connections to the CIA and wasn't given any real answers besides the fact that his work was associated with the hippie movement, but that's what happens when you're part of the counterculture movement in the late 60's. I wasn't given any concrete names. I know that Richard de Mille, Scientologist and personal assistant of L Ron Hubbard, published a couple books to ruin Castaneda's legacy. Merilyn Tunneshende and a couple other grifters published books after his death but I get the feeling they were more concerned with making money. Tarnishing Castaneda's name was an afterthought.

This is a short article I found detailing how the Church of Scientology and the US government is connected. - https://archive.is/9evTr

Something doesn't feel right to me about the way he passed. I know he could have survived the cancer if he had enough Energy to do so, but that's not the point of why I'm writing this. Was he murdered?

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u/GazelleWorldly1179 0 points 2024-12-04 13:18

Bro, Carlos died in 1998. During this period the CIA was already investigating Osama Bin Laden and the Al Qaida at full speed. Why the hell would they decide to kill him. They could‘ve done it way earlier if they wanted to.

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u/Outrageous-Milk8767 2 points 2024-12-04 13:27

>Bro, Carlos died in 1998. During this period the CIA was already investigating Osama Bin Laden and the Al Qaida at full speed.

Like that precludes them from doing other things. Don't get me started on how spooky 9/11 was.

>Why the hell would they decide to kill him.

Why don't they just suppress everything they don't like? MLK got pretty far before they decided to off him. I mean that was after he decided to start advocating for UBI, but still. Also, Castaneda is seen by the majority of people as a drug-addict hippy who led a death cult in the desert. I think that's intentional. I don't know the whole picture but yes, there's evidence a lot of Carlos' shit was suppressed by the powers that be. The liberation of human beings isn't something that benefits them.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 3 points 2024-12-04 14:54

Cancer as a loaded weapon 😷. Now that's a paranoia rabbit-hole.

You don't, necessarily, have to invoke the CIA as a murder for higher boogeyman.

The flyer's mind has such wide influence...and is more than capable of "activating" individuals towards heinous acts. No government spooks needed.

Actually, not long after the revitalization of this subreddit in 2019, Dan was contacted by someone who hinted that they worked in some secret government agency or program. They gave him a list of the phone numbers and addresses of people who had attended workshops held by Cleargreen in the 1990's, since Dan had mentioned that was info he could potentially use, and implied that they were on board with the revamping of our messaging and renewed focus on practice.

Meaning we weren't just like all the other kooks out there!

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u/Outrageous-Milk8767 1 points 2024-12-04 15:17

Ha, I know I have a tendency towards conspiratorial thinking, sometimes it's good to try to ground myself with other people's (more sober) takes.

And that's very interesting that government people would contact Dan. I'm not too surprised, this is real so obviously they'd keep tabs on people here. If Joe Schmoe can find this subreddit there's no doubt in my mind that alphabet agencies could too.

I guess as long as people don't get too uppity we should be safe.

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u/castaneda-ModTeam 1 points 2024-12-04 14:15

The stated purpose of this subreddit is to aid in restoring the reputation of Carlos Castaneda and the knowledge he imparted, by pragmatically applying that knowledge IN PRACTICE. This means that we are sticking to what really works, as proven by direct experience by long-practicing members. We need to make clear our intent to move away, as a community, from the mistakes others have made. Content that is at-odds with this purpose will, upon review, be removed.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2024-12-10 11:44

The OP text of this post:

""I'll remove the post if it's not the right topic for this subreddit.

"He died of liver cancer on April 27 at his home in Los Angeles, said Deborah Drooz, an entertainment lawyer, friend of Mr. Castaneda and executor of his estate. She said he had suffered from the illness for at least 10 months. After his death, his body was cremated and the remains were sent to Mexico, she added."

https://web.archive.org/web/20150314195555/http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/20/arts/carlos-castaneda-mystical-and-mysterious-writer-dies.html

" (Atheism) It has been heavily enforced for centuries by killing off the people with shamanic knowledge (shamans, medicine men, native tribes---the purpose of the 'witch' purges---good psychics were purged by fast acting cancers in the 90's (see), and replacing them with people who are under their control eg Robertson, & Billy Graham who was a 33 degree Mason)"

http://www.whale.to/b/atheism.html

(Note that I have nothing against Atheists personally, that's just the article. I'm more interested in the government assassination aspects. See MLK, Malcolm X, Operation 40, the Dallas occupy plot, maybe JFK. Also worth noting is that the USA hasn't signed the International Convention for the Protection of All Persons from Enforced Disappearance (ICCPED))

"So many people have been done in by cancer at a convenient time in history that conspiracy buffs wonder if you can "give" people cancer. I recall the propitious cancer deaths of Jack Ruby, William Casey, Martha Mitchell, the Shah of Iran, Mae Brussell, and others. (Even O.J. Simpson was tested for lymphoma cancer in a swollen lymph node while imprisoned awaiting trial for murder.) Can you kill people by injecting them with cancer viruses and bacteria? Of course! No one in their right mind would want blood from a dying cancer or AIDS patient. Can you give a person cancer? If cancer in animals can be caused by injecting them with cancer viruses and bacteria, it would certainly be possible to do the same with human beings!---[1994] Is Cancer Contagious? by Alan Cantwell

Dr. Karla Turner died of cancer on January 10, 1996, after being threatened for her work. She was just 48. Since then, several other people involved in UFO investigation have also experienced threats followed by highly unusual cancers.

http://www.whale.to/b/assassination_disease.html

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 2 points 2024-12-10 11:44

(continued)

""The House Select Committee on Assassinations established that cancer was used by the CIA to carry out illegal covert assassinations.[1] Many people involved in either carrying out or investigating deep politics have died from cancer. However, it is usually very difficult to differentiate randomly occurring from deliberately generated cases of cancer.

In some cases, the CIA dart gun is a potentially risky means of infection with cancerous cells, and exemplifies their technology from 40 years ago. People already in custody (such as Jack Ruby) would have been particularly easy targets.

Fast growing malignant forms of cancer are preferred as assassination tools due to their speed of effect and poor prognosis. Victims of particularly aggressive cancer include David McGowan (55) and Mae Brussell (66).

Younger victims inevitably raise more suspicion that older ones. Younger victims of cancer include Bill Hicks (32) and Bob Marley (36). Ole Dammegård suggests that Bob Marley's fatal cancer was given him by an injury caused by piece of wire in a pair of cowboy boots given to him by William Colby's son."

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Cancer

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I asked Chatgpt if Carlos had any connections to the CIA and wasn't given any real answers besides the fact that his work was associated with the hippie movement, but that's what happens when you're part of the counterculture movement in the late 60's. I wasn't given any concrete names. I know that Richard de Mille, Scientologist and personal assistant of L Ron Hubbard, published a couple books to ruin Castaneda's legacy. Merilyn Tunneshende and a couple other grifters published books after his death but I get the feeling they were more concerned with making money. Tarnishing Castaneda's name was an afterthought.

This is a short article I found detailing how the Church of Scientology and the US government is connected. - https://archive.is/9evTr

Something doesn't feel right to me about the way he passed. I know he could have survived the cancer if he had enough Energy to do so, but that's not the point of why I'm writing this. Was he murdered?"