The new people who got interested through Persian Instagram had no idea about the Darkroom practice, and the previous Darkroom video that Athina made wasn’t really suited for Instagram’s style. So, I remade it.
Here’s the English version; I’ll upload the Persian one on Instagram.
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That's a very good remake and I believe much better than my video! You did a great job with separating and showing the proper elements that fitted to the narration.
Can we use noise-cancelling buds?
Noise cancelling is an extra frequency transmitted to your brain.. I’ve thought about this lol .. what do you think ?
yeah that's why I asked hahah..I guess good ol' silicone earbuds will sort it out
yeah it uses bluetooth frequency to do the noise cancelling and thats at a frequency that resonates with water, we are 75% water, so yeah good ol silicon buds i think is the way to go
That type of questions makes obvious you didn't give it a serious try yet.
Because we are looking for elements of the Second Attention, and what happens with the First Attention isn't very relevant.
So yes, you can use those if they help with the work. I used to put a big noisy fan on warm afternoons in the city, and I could see magic perfectly, and even listen to magical sounds.
But don't expect this is something like "sensory deprivation". The magic is a result of the level of silence.
You could be in full daylight, with the five senses fully working, but still "seeing" impossble stuff right in front of your face.
Our sorcery changes our reality and we get to see how it is assembled.
And also other realities that are there to be assembled.
Yes it is true I have not gave it a try yet, I only read 'the active side of the infinite', I just wanted to try it the proper way, thanks for the help!
Fantastic video 💜
It's great!
Hi, I am very new to this and wanted to ask some questions.
I have heard that by doing darkroom you attract inorganic beings into your room. I just wanted to know if that would cause an affect on the people who may come into my room. And if I have roommates and would that affect them.
I also have some other questions.
When I am in daylight. If I try to see I can see some lines and spots flying around that move as my eyes move. This becomes even more prominent when I stare at the sun or just the light bulb. Is this like darkroom but in light?
If I use the blackout mask for darkroom. Will it still be the same as real darkroom where you make your room dark?
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We don't know...
Sorry.
You've finally found real magic, not the pretend kind written in a sacred book by some evil "Prophet" who wants your money. Or wanted your money thousands of years ago, and now the franchise is still active (=religion).
And sorcerers don't tell their apprentices everything, because they want their magic to evolve to higher and higher levels over time. The nature of this kind of magic is that at some point you can gaze up into the darkness and get access to everything any human has ever known, or ever will known.
As Yoda said (The Jedi were based on our magic), "We are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all masters."
We're supposed to get our own answers there, using "Silent Knowledge", so that we don't suppress new people who discover new things.
It's not as if previous seers don't pass on what they know.
Just the fact that they knew it, means you can now access it.
That said, it's unlikely the people in your house will perceive what you learn to perceive.
We're all up to our ears in inorganic beings all the time. There's more of those on earth, than humans and animals.
And the people in your home ALL perceived them as very small children.
The "monster in the closet".
But they were brainwashed to ignore them.
It's very difficult to overcome that brainwashing.
>Is this like darkroom but in light?
Not enough to help you get anywhere real.
We have darkroomers who do it in full sunlight. They see AMAZING sights. Anything you can see in a dark room, you can see in sunlight. It's just a lot harder.
But if you want to learn in full light, you can.
Carlos even expected it. He'd probably be surprised if he saw what we've become. That was his Ally's idea.
As for the blackout mask, ask those who are using it, or read their posts.
There's plenty of those.
Thank you for answering my questions.
So can I start to do darkroom practice with blackout without worrying about whether other people may see stuff or the inorganic beings may harm them?
I also wanted to ask some other questions.
Can you tell me if inorganic beings are dangerous. I will not die will I? And when they may appear in my practice.
And can you tell me what I should do about those lines and spots I see and what they are?
Is there any other advice what I should do? Anything is appreciated.
Again. Thanks a lot.
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Yes. But if they do, that'll be wonderful! So be sure to let us know.
Just don't tell anyone what you're doing, or they might try to trick you and say they saw it too. Or they might be attention seekers.
Yes, the inorganic beings are dangerous.
they can push objects onto you. If you fall on the ground, they can hold you down.
But they don't have enough "force" to harm you directly.
And if you "like" them, they'll end up trying to help you learn.
No one can tell you about the lines and spots you see. There's 1000 things like that which we can't figure out.
The worst of which are those little blue dots that flare up for a second or two and then vanish.
Lots of people see those.
In Yoga, they're sometimes called "the blue pearl", and Yogis who see those pretend it's a profound experience.
When in fact, I must see 100 of those a night. They're more annoying than anything else.
Hi,
I am very new to this.
I can now see bright orbs, the spots I talked about eventually got brighter and if I notice them now turned into multi colors(like red, green etc.) and eventually purple, all this is happens in light, as I didn't start in dark. I notice a single purple which is directional. As I do this in light I notice them most of the time.
I had some things I wanted to ask(again I am new to this and if there are questions that have been asked before I apologize):
Some times maybe when I am tired, things become more noticeable like the static that is originally in background or on things which is somewhat noticeable becomes even more noticeable, like small white lines almost dots dancing in the air. I then begin to fear that as I remember what if I don't come back. As even the smallest attention makes things even more noticeable. So, I try to divert my attention elsewhere and not think about that, as it feels like becoming out of control because it happens automatically in place of effort. So what I wanted to ask is: Is there a way to make sure you don't forget you have to come back? THERE
I noticed the J curve and found that I am almost near to IOBs encountering areas, so I had some things I wanted to ask: Is there any advice to make sure not to be tricked by them? Do they appear in the puffs or more like a ghost watching from the back? How far can you get in J curve without them?
It sounds like you're making the mistake of "looking for your greatness".
Meaning, not following instructions. Trying to skip to the end without doing real work. Because in all other magical systems, it doesn't work anyway. So why do the work, if you can just try to simulate (pretend very hard) the results, the way everyone else in that system does.
HOWEVER, it's not impossible to develop what you're talking about and make progress along the sorcery path.
I actually got to "see" that last night, while gazing at the special effects in the darkness, to get some pointers on how to animate a "whitish light on surfaces" scene I'm working on.
Here's the scene. Looks better when it's animated.
Other worlds materialize on the walls, and if you have an Ally, you can walk right through a solid wall, and into the other world you see.
But in your case, if you don't follow instructions, you'll be going down your own rabbit trail.
And no one can blaze a new path that gets very far.
This one "pulls" on those who follow instructions, and it's many thousands of years in the making.
A new "rabbit trail" is only months in the making, and can't get you very far.
Hi,
I was editing the comment as I posted by mistake and didn't want to delete it. I finished just now. Can you please see it again?
Can you explain what I did wrong and how to correct it?
I don't do the things in darkroom but I surely close and cover my eyes. I just try to notice the things i see in that dark in light.
I think I have followed instructions as what was said I tried to do that with silence and I also do tensegrity.
Thank you.
I've never done silence in light.
It's not my thing.
But if you're doing tensegrity and forcing silence, and you never forget to emphasize silence, it'll work in daylight too.
Carlos was sure of it.
And Juann got all sorts of fun things to happen in sunlight, including seeing Carlos' Ally "Fairy" on leaves in the bushes and on trees.
Let's just say, as far as if you're doing anything wrong, that as long as you see any magic at all, and use silence to see more of it each day, so that the magic itself becomes a measure of how much better you've gotten at silence, then you can't fail!
In fact, any fake technique would work if people followed that strategy.
Unfortunately, they never do.
For example, when you see the scene of the Kung Fu master practicing alone at the temple, it's a total fraud.
They only do that if someone is watching and has a camera.
Trust me on that one! I studied at 15 martial arts studios, and not just a little at each.
Tens of years at several, and long enough at the others.
To realize that the "teacher" didn't practice at all, and was happy to find a young man who did. You get put in charge if he doesn't have any other "senior students".
The Kungfu Money snatching claw!
Hello ,
I added some more information in the above comment with " More: ". the information i added was :
" More: I only saw the things that were in the j curve like starting with vague spots, then somewhat bright, then somewhat colorful, then after almost month of trying I saw the colors. I think what helped my with seeing the spots in daylight were that looking at bulbs and sun that when I moved my eyes aways a spot followed. I did that for almost 2 months I think before I saw colors on those spots. I only saw the colors some days ago when I tried to make that spot big by looking at bulb very closely almost a feet away. That made me see colors on those spot as it make the spot more noticeable. "
Can I please get some answers to questions related the IOBs that I had asked.
Thank you.
Reddit seems to be broken.
Staring at bulbs is an attempt to do what delusional Daoism does with candles, and a very bad idea.
I can't find any questions about IOBs. I just looked. Don't see any.
But then, I got a "server error" one of those attempts.
This a list of question I had asked:
I really appreciate you listening to the things I have to say.
Thank you.
You should be so lucky! But no, without being dented by a "Nagual", it's not going to happen.
Yes they are. And yes they can. But it's extremely unlikely. Less so than being killed by a cougar or bear while hiking in the mountains where Carlos took private class members. And far less dangerous than the "sorcerer's cave" he brought us to, telling the women to go and sit on the stone couch in there, which overlooks Malibu Beach.
No. Just let them trick you. And how they appear is either way you mentioned. But also as a perfectly real looking animal such as a snake or a squirrel. Minx does that. Looks absolutely real!
No one knows. It's possible that you only need their "dark energy" over in the orange zone, and if that's true, just find a witch to hang out with for a while. Buy her dinner or something.
"Staring at bulbs is an attempt to do what delusional Daoism does with candles, and a very bad idea."
Can you please explain why that would be a bad idea?
Because you don't learn sorcery except by following how it was learned in the past.
You're confused about what it really is.
You believe you can find your own shortcut, as if learning it was no different than learning to be a plumber.
Hi,
I had some new questions, can you please answer them:
Is there any technique to get rid of any illness or disease, no matter if a simple cold or a life threatening one? I know about a claw technique but can simple people use it who are not into sorcery.
Can tensegrity be used just for the sake of well being by one who does not want to not step into sorcery? What are the consequences of using tensegrity?
Thank you.
"Since she's a terminal case she has power." is the key phrase (similar to "death as an advisor"). Then the technique comes into play.
"It's a very simple procedure," he said. "All you have to do is remind her that she's an incurable patient. Since she's a terminal case she has power. She has nothing to lose anymore. She's lost everything already. When one has nothing to lose, one becomes courageous. We are timid only when there is something we can still cling to." "But is it enough just to remind her of that?" "No. That will give her the boost she needs. Then she has to push the disease away with her left hand. She must push her arm out in front of her with her hand clenched as if she were holding a knob. She must push on and on as she says out, out, out. Tell her that, since she has nothing else to do, she must dedicate every second of her remaining life to performing that movement. I assure you that she can get up and walk away, if she wants to." "It sounds so simple," I said. Don Juan chuckled. "It seems simple," he said, "but it isn't. In order to do this your friend needs an impeccable spirit." He looked at me for a long time. He seemed to be measuring the concern and sadness I felt for my friend. "Of course," he added, "if your friend had an impeccable spirit she wouldn't be there in the first place."
Weird questions, though. Tricking someone into becoming a sorcerer won't lead them to thanking you. They might beat you instead or try to kill you.
The friend was Carobeth Laird, a Lakota Indian shamaness.
A young male friend of hers is the only person Carlos every mentioned as having succeeded in making our sorcery work (a little bit). And he did it on his own.
I haven't been able to track him down, but he's likely associated with Morongo or Pala. Or one of the mixed tribes down south of Los Angeles.
Mixed tribes containing Indians who were in the area for 10,000 years! As measured by anthropologists digging up their stuff.
Carobeth gave a horrible mummified bear claw shaman wand to my father, symbolizing passing the head of her shaman group to him.
He kept it in a shoe box in a closet at the top, the way you'd hide a handgun up there next to your porn.
My father said the bear claw came alive at night and scared the hell out of him, and he had to get rid of it.
So it's likely in some kind of Carobeth Laird exhibit at UCR.
Oddly, my mother confused Carobeth with Ruby Modesto, having never met Ruby. Who was a real shamaness with at least a little real magical skills (not enough to be worth pursuing).
Carobeth was just a ceremonial shaman, which is perhaps true of all Lakota shamanism.
As don Juan said, "Shamans are assholes".
Meaning, they only follow the old rituals, but these days have no real understanding. And yet, they like to pretend they do.
They're like Reni or Miles... left over and still trying to profit from selling pretend magic.
It's too bad that she didn't have an impeccable spirit...
She married a military man who abused her, wrote a book about it which was published by Malki Museum Press, and then the UC system picked her up as a "token Native American" and promoted her fast.
Naturally she got mixed up with Carlos a bit, since he as part of the UC system anthropology department, and he visited her in the hospital on her death bed, where he taught her that technique just hours before my father visited.
I guess it was visiting day or something, so not as odd of a coincidence as it might seem.
My father heard that Carlos had visited before he did, and I got to hear that story from him.
Too bad I didn't pay better attention.
There were a lot of stories about "Carlos visited!" at Morongo, but I never paid attention.
I was stalking a possum that lived under the outhouse.
Followed around (unknown to me) by a tall thin man with a shotgun.
Who warned me never go up that dirt road behind us, because the local natives will shoot anyone they don't recognize, going up that road.
Ruby wrote there there used to be men like don Juan all over that area, before Europeans invaded and drove them away.
Hi,
I have read in one place the use of right hand and in another the use of left hand. I am confused as which one is to be used. Can you help?
The part you used is from which book?
If I am right tensegrity leads to redeploying of energy. So won't it be case that our perception may shift because of that energy. I just want to make sure.
THANKS, for answering.
>I have read in one place the use of right hand and in another the use of left hand. I am confused as which one is to be used. Can you help?
Both can be used and both techniques are described for usage in the books.
>The part you used is from which book?
Second Ring of Power ch. The Little Sisters
>If I am right tensegrity leads to redeploying of energy. So won't it be case that our perception may shift because of that energy. I just want to make sure.
Why should it not be the case that perception "won't" shift because of that energy? Even getting sick can cause your assemblage point to move. If you want guarantees, you won't have them in sorcery.
Hi,
Is it Okay if I ask something?
If you think about the possibilities one can perceive isn't it quite easy that one becomes insane even if one doesn't want to. How can one keep their cool and rational mind when facing the infinite world?
Thank you.
No, the opposite is true.
We start out insane, and get more and more sober.
We start perceiving things which sound like what insane people describe, but in fact insane people are mostly lying about what they're perceiving. Without even having the clear headedness to know they're lying.
That's not where their attention is focused.
A schizophrenic who says they were abducted by aliens, didn't actually experience that.
It was just the closest they could get to describing whatever they really did experience, and whatever it was, it was a result of a VERY noisy internal dialogue, absolutely obsessed with "me, me, me".
It's pretty much the opposite of what sorcery does.
It only sounds similar, because our brainwashing to keep us "happy" in the river of shit, likes to claim anything outside of it isn't real.
It's like an angry, delusional political party that's gotten so obsessed with some bizarre violent narrative, that it actually believes that's true.
Those take over countries around the world, just the way our oppressive socialization has taken over the entire world now.
China is an interesting case. Do the Chinese really believe their communist leaders are doing that for the good of all?
Seeing as how all real Chinese know, the leader claims to be descendant from the original imperial emperor lineage.
When the Chinese living there pick up baseball bats, and smash Toyota car windows in Beijing, are they doing it for the Emperor? Or because they really think the Japanese have no right to some random oceanic oil deposit the Chinese have claimed through some tiny island near it.
You can't find out. They'll turn the bat on you, if you try to ask.
Last time I was in Beijing, they were doing that.
One Chinese man turned to me and asked if I was american?
They hate americans too.
My translator said, "No, he's swiss. He also hates americans."
I tried to say yes, with a swedish accent.
The Chinese like the meatballs at Ikea.
Hi,
I have some new things to ask.
Sometimes when I try to sleep, my attention comes back and I notice that there is a scene in front of my eyes when my eyes are closed, during this time I know that I am not fully asleep yet and and can somewhat feel my body. The scene that appears is sometimes like a big window or a small window that appears in the region of my eyes, my eyes are closed.
One time, I saw an area of my bed that would have appeared if I had opened my eyes, I tried to make sure that I didn't have my eyes open, so I moved my hands in front my eyes AND I COULDN'T SEE THEM. But the times I have noticed such things, I get back to the dark region of my eyes and the scene disappears.
Do you have any idea of what the scene could be? And what causes it? Can it help me do something?
Any Instructions?
Thanks.
It's the second attention becoming visible.
As very small children, we were taught to block that out.
But before then, if you watch infants, you can tell that they're seeing much more than the adults do.
The scene's meaning is only important if you repeat this 3 times.
Mostly we say that to keep people from reporting meaningless things that aren't helpful in here. Other subreddits which claim to have magic, are literally DOMINATED by endless beginners posting about things which don't really mean much.
Those contribute to making it impossible to figure out what you're supposed to be practicing, in that subreddit.
There's nothing but "noise".
Worse, they're all like that.
So once in a while if I get a particularly stubborn bad guy in here, I ask him to point to real magic, anywhere else. Trying to get him to see that this place is precious, and should be treated with respect.
They never can point to anything real elsewhere. At least, so far after 5 years.
But some give me a list of 10 pretend magic subreddits, like Bardon, Dzogchen, or Magick.
Thinking if they bombard me with 10 fake magic subreddits, I can't take the time to point out there's none in there.
But all I do is tell them to pick the best one so I don't have to spend time.
And then they realize there's none, and give up.
Which makes sense, because they don't actually have any real magic outside here, other than closed eye meditation effects. And it's all just beginners hoping to learn that, and con artists stealing from them.
Can you believe there are subreddits where the moderators are selling workshops and online courses!?
The Astral Travel and Remote Viewing subreddits are like that. run by bad men profiting from people's confusion.
Unfortunately, the shamanism subreddit is also like that.
(continued)
But since you asked, there is an interesting possibility here.
Which is why the recommendation to see it 3 times, before you consider it significant.
And not 3 times a different scene. I mean, the very same scene 3 times.
Seeing it 3 times virtually insures it's not the inorganic beings messing with you.
Typically they try a "trick" only twice before they move on to a different trick.
Because the first time they get an emotional reaction from you, but the second time your reaction is less, so they give up on that and try a new thing.
Maybe an "evil clown" if seeing the corner of your bed didn't work.
Thus, wait until you see the precise thing 3 times before wondering about it.
Also, that's just the second attention.
For most people, easier to see while going to sleep, or waking up.
The trick is to do it fully awake, walking around doing physical movements, eyes wide open, and completely sober.
No one does that but us!
Even "enlightened" people only see things on demand with their eyes closed. And typically after very long periods of closed eye meditation.
Such as Daniel Ingram, one of the very few out there doing real magic by some other method, needing a 2 week workshop just to see inorganic beings.
We do that in 5 minutes, and with our eyes open!
Hi,
Does seeing my room from different position counts?
If I think about it the times I noticed, some times there were strange scene and other I saw what I would have seen in front of me if I had my eyes open example like the bedsheet in front of me. I think I have seen them maybe 3 times of my bedsheets.
Of course! Anything which "can't possibly be there", but is anyway, is "the second attention".
It's the eyesight of your double!
However, if you always do what you do with your eyes closed, in the long run you have no evidence you aren't like every other fraud Yogi or Buddhist "master" who has a vision.
Try to do things with your eyes open!
NO ONE ELSE does that, so you can't get equated to fakers who only want money.
However, of course magic done with the eyes closed is real.
It's just impossible to distinguish it from the lies told by fake magical systems.
Hi,
I just wanted to know what I did was.
Is there anything I can do with it? I just see the scenes when I am just about to fall asleep.
Sorry, if this might seem like the most basic question. If I can perceive with my double eyes, and as I most of the times the scene that would be in front of me (something to note that I don't actually see what in front of me as there is some difference like different bed sheets or me holding a phone when I don't ), do I have my double with we combined or do I just borrow its eyes.
Thanks for answering.
You should learn that by reading posts in this subreddit.
Keep in mind, no one makes money off this. Not in any way.
So your usual expectations of how you should be treated in a subreddit which pretends to be about magic, are wrong.
You're "welcome" there, and people are eager to help, because they can smell your money.
You could take a slice of baloney and wave it among dogs, and get just as much eagerness to please as you get in the fake magic subreddits, such as "Astral Travel".
Our only interest in here is success, and people who want others to tell them everything, are not going to be successful.
Sorcery is the hardest thing you can ever learn.
But actually, no more difficult than learning to play the trumpet well enough to solo in a cheesy vegas lounge act, given a 6 month deadline from not playing at all, to getting the job.
And certainly not as difficult as learning to surf well enough to compete at the U.S. Open of Surfing in Huntington Beach.
It's just a lot more work than fake magic like Buddhism or Yoga expects you to do.
So start reading posts. There's at least 700, because I have that many pictures in my illustration folder.
Can you exploit what you did again and again, to learn sorcery?
You "could", but it's so close to impossible that you surely won't.
You need to follow a trail others have followed, instead of trying to make your own.
Hi,
I wanted to ask somethings.
Are we always surrounded by inorganic beings. Can they see whatever we are doing etc. ?
They aren't like demons from stories like where they ask for your soul or life in exchange for something right?
Thanks.
There's 2 kinds seers like us deal with, and others we avoid but which are too rare for beginners to run into.
There's the inorganic beings who live here. And there's more of them than there are of all organic life!
Including insects.
So there are more inorganic being "creatures" all around you, than there is anything else alive.
But there's also a much larger variety of "types" of those.
So most likely aren't compatible with us, and both they, and us, can barely perceive each other, even under ideal circumstance.
Such as Taisha's "shadow beings".
Useful only for stabilizing the second attention, by just barely perceiving them.
In Taisha's unpublished book.
then there's the kind you're thinking about.
The super powerful ones that are almost human like in their outlook.
Those don't actually live here!
Just like seers, they can project themselves anywhere in the universe, instantly.
Carlos said that the ones we share in here, "come from the center of the universe".
But that's no longer something you ought to say, because every point in space is the "center of the universe".
Modern physics ruins all the fun...
So let's just say that if there were a center of the universe, our allies come from so far away, it's like thousands of galaxies over.
Certainly not in this one!
Which makes me wonder about Star Wars again...
"Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away."
More Soledad influence?
So, what I wanted to ask was that the ones we may run into like in dreams or in darkroom.
Are they dangerous like asking for our lives like demons from stories ?
Thanks
Nope. The demons in stories were fabricated by religious con artists, to scare people into giving up their money.
These are so alien to us, you can't even imagine how they think.
And anything you pick up from them is more about you, then them.
But if they scare you, that's a good thing! Don Juan used to use fright to move Carlos assemblage point all the time.
If they are so alien to us. Aren't they also dangerous.
Other than them trying to scare us, can they also threaten our lives.
Can you tell me more about them?
If there is any dangerous situation, is there any way to protect ourselves?
Thanks.
They aren't located here, so they can't do anything to you.
I estimate they can push 2 ounces in our world, so I suppose if you were walking on a mountain trail, they could figure out how to push a tree off a cliff, using clever leverage. And make it fall down on you.
My Ally "Fancy" did that sort of thing a few years back.
I saw her fly into the back warehouse, which isn't an unusual sight for a sorcerer. It looked like a whitish pillar of smoke zipping by one of the doors headed to the warehouse.
She helped me out at work from time to time if I managed to travel there from home.
But then a few minutes later after I saw her fly that direction, I heard a HORRIBLE crashing sound.
She found an old grocery store plastic bag that had metal parts in it, hanging on a wall. It was a good 10 years old, and she managed to poke a tiny hole in the bag, which pretty much exploded like a balloon, made the metal parts spill out, and they hit some long steel pipes near by, causing 8 foot long pipes to all fall to the concrete.
But she only used a tiny amount of pressure to do it.
That sort of thing, they can indeed do.
Cholita taught "Fairy" to lift little dim sum plates for her, and move them around.
It's pretty cool to see!
But if you're hoping to be told there's no dangers in sorcery, things are only safe when it's all pretending.
Anyway, you'll be lucky to get your own Ally hanging around.
More likely is Fairy or Minx, who won't actually harm you.
Minx might drain your energy if he can get away with it, but that's only as bad as a mild hangover.
Hi,
Just some days ago when I had woken up from sleep. I could see something like a text. Where ever my eyes moved it also went there. First, it was away then it moved to my side and came closer. Even though I could see something was written in it, I couldn't read what it said.
Do you think anything of it?
Thanks.
Sure! We often wake up with our assemblage point in a favorable position to see magic in the air.
And text is not uncommon, since Carlos told us to look for that.
Carlos used to read entire pages, so don't assume it has to come from "the whorl", or from a "violet smear in the sky".
Now you have to learn to do that awake!
The fact that it follows your eyes doesn't really tell us anything. It's the double's eyes and how he's oriented in the room is something you can't yet see.
Plus the double can see all around itself if it wants to.
Carlos famously got "360 degree vision" in one world he visited, got excited, and turned around so fast that he ripped his stomach muscles and got a hernia.
He often got ill. La Gorda nicknamed him "The Nagual who got ill".
Hi,
What do you think about this post?
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/1kc849p/questions_about_experiences/
I have been trying to figure out what caused the situation. Can you help?
Can you tell what to be careful of too?
Thanks.
It's not worth figuring out.
I learned that from being around Cholita.
If you could see exactly what actually happened, you'd find out he left out important details.
If one don't want to end up in the same situation.
What do they need to careful of?
So is there not such a danger to end up in such a situation by practising right?
So is Tensegrity still fine?
I just wanted to clear all my doubts that all.
You won't keep practicing if you're afraid.
And I must admit I couldn't stomach reading that nonsense.
If you want to summarize your concern from what's written there, maybe I'll have something to say.
But I'm not going to read that delusional pretending.
You pay a high price for reading stuff like that!
One might even say, it's designed to stop you from making progress!
OK,
So my concern is that I don't want to end up in such a situation.
Because I don't want to make my life difficult.
I have got the idea that the world is boundless and we may experience anything for example our senses can perceive anything like feel, touch, etc. So it may be good or bad.
So that's why I am acting in such a way.
Why would I want to make my life a so difficult?
What did that person claim happened?
I only skimmed it because it was clearly a crazy person with mental illness and attention seeking tendencies.
That's not unique to this subreddit!
It's common in other subreddits.
The "I have a serious problem! Can anyone help me???"
I must see one everyday, when Reddit suggests other subreddit posts I might be interested in.
It's always a scam. But you only find out, by trying to answer their question.
So what exactly was the person claiming?
Like I said, I never read that one.
Keep in mind, sorcerers even ditch their families and friends, under the "new seers" model.
There's reasons for that you would never think of in a million years!
Not at all what you'd expect.
But very real once you learn to "see" and realize what a struggle it is to get that far everyday.
And how many times you'd have to get there, to begin to make use of "seeing".
I used to tell new people who were fearful, to make an oath to themselves. And then they won't have to worry about things like this anymore.
But the women told me to stop doing that, years ago...
My oath went something like, "Realize that you'll burn in hell forever for your evil sorcery doings, and surely be bitten in half by a huge demon! But you accept that fully because that's the price of real magic..."
Actually the original was better than that.
But essentially, once you accept that you just wrestled any Ally you run into, so that they can't manipulate you using normal fear methods.
As it turns out, sorcerers actually have help from infinity.
It's not infallible, but it can be amazing.
Carlos told us 2 stories about that, but I forgot both.
In one, a man was trying to do harm to Carlos.
But he dropped dead on the spot.
These were before Jadey got into class, unfortunately.
And Carlos didn't let Cholita attend many classes.
There was also a story of a famous Guru he went to visit.
Who was at the top of some long stairs, looking spiritual and regal.
Except he tripped on the way down, and broke his neck.
The way Carlos told it, the Guru ended up at his feet, dead.
He claimed that after doing tensegrity, he attracted something evil(IOBs told him that as he said) that made his life really really difficult. He also claimed maybe because he did it with wrong intent that happens. And due to it he eventually tuned mad and even had to stay in hospital for year.
He then had to work to do tensegrity with right intent that resolved his problem.
Schizophrenia.
Just because he says it's not, doesn't mean it isn't.
To this day, Cholita insists she's not schizophrenic.
Usually people with that paranoid mental illness don't admit it, until they crash so hard that a doctor ends up drugging them so they can keep their place to live.
In Cholita's case, that's not an issue. I have no desire to change her.
And since that guy is writing on reddit, it doesn't seem as if anything seriously bad has happened to him.
Seems like a fair price to pay, to learn real magic!
I'm designing a self-contained, talking Teddy bear right now.
It's never been done.
But at my age, it's HORRIBLE!
tiny little parts the size of pepper grains, which have to be moved sometimes to fix errors.
10,000 lines of abstract code you have to keep track of. Endless "experts" saying it won't work.
But I don't give up, because how cool would a real, talking teddy bear be???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM6ldDLt3y0
Likewise, "suck it up!"
Magic is worth a little trouble.
Wait... Where does that suck it up saying come from???
Hi,
I wanted to ask something.
When we are tired and are lying down to sleep. There are scenes that start appearing, for example seeing some other place but as soon as it comes you notice it and the scene disappears. This continues as different scenes appears.
Is this considered the pictures part of innner dialogue or is something that is achieved through silence.
Thanks a lot. You really have helped me many times by answering.
That's the second attention being more available.
But it is unlikely to do you much good, because the real problem is passing into dreaming, without forgetting where you came from and what you wanted to do.
So it seems to someone new that if you could learn to go directly into dreaming from awake, that would be super valuable.
But in fact, it's not of much use.
It's the amount of tonal awareness you bring into the dream that matters.
Hi,
I had something to ask.
What is the difference between an insane person and us?
How can anyone be sure that what one experiences is real and one isn't actually going insane?
Thanks.
What we do is the opposite of insane.
In fact you soon notice, as you progress, that everyone around you is insane.
Read what happens with new people who come here, and see if they don't sound insane to you.
Unfortunately, the typical person living in this modern world can't perceive reality anymore. Just what they want it to be, and nothing else.
That's the hallmark of insanity!
But there's also the internal dialogue.
People you'd consider insane have a RAGING internal dialogue. It's all about "me, me, me". Go find yourself a crazy homeless person and follow them around, and watch them talking to themselves about "me".
Seers are so silent, they perceive what actually is out there in front of them, instead of what they want to be there.
And "me" makes no sense to them anymore.
You've fallen prey to the idea that if you don't perceive what others are forced to perceive, something must be wrong with you.
Not to mention, Cholita can levitate small objects.
There's no doubt she has supernatural abilities.
And I've earned millions with my seeing. It's a known historical fact, well known to my customers in Taiwan, who openly call me the "sorcerer engineer".
They have daoism there, so sorcery is not a bad topic.
Maybe even billions eventually. I have 5 patents pending now, on how to do AI without the set of $20,000 video cards.
$200,000 to do ChatGPT, in hardware. You need 10 to 15 of these very expensive GPU cards.
My design can do it for $6000 and 24 times faster.
I got that from "seeing".
I don't know that I'll get a chance to finish that, I'm old and very busy.
But I do have a patent pending for it.
Hi,
I wanted to ask about the buzzing in ears that one experiences during sleep paralysis.
For more detail: I had woken up from sleep but I noticed that I couldn't move my body (I was lying on my stomach). I tried to move my body by moving some muscles which I could move. As a result, I got current(not exactly) flowing through me. Then I stated to hear a buzzing that eventually got so much louder, I was going to start worrying about it but I let it be. Then I wasn't bothered by it as much anymore and eventually it faded. Then I was able to move my body.
I just wanted to ask about what it may have been and why it occurs.
Thanks.
Sleep paralysis goes away after a few times.
It's not a huge problem.
And that buzzing in the ear also happens if the assemblage point moves too fast (jumps in location).
But many people get it when they first move into the green zone, in a nightly practice.
It's best not to focus on beginner's experiences, so that you work extra hard to get to seeing the second attention while wide awake, eyes open.
A large portion of our community got trapped by believing they can use sleeping dreaming to learn sorcery.
I'm afraid, the leaders Carlos left behind, even encourage this belief.
It keeps people hanging on longer, so they can extract more money from them. Before they didn't it doesn't work, and Carlos must have made it up.
I suppose this subreddit has interrupted that for them, which might be why they let me comment on their youtube channels.
The other day, one even reminded me that you have to be silent, or you don't see all the cool magic I was reporting you can see, with a particular form they were showing.
That was weird...
It was "Fire From Within Media".
Hi,
I just read that the claw technique can be used with both hands left or right, depending on the purpose.
Can I ask the specific purpose that is associated with each hand when it is moved?
Thanks.
There is both a chat as well as a discord channel, you also have the option to respond to older posts. The answer to your question is also given in the books themselves.
If you aren't prepared for some self-learning, you aren't prepared at all.
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/channel/1rg/castaneda-students-chat?r=%21tKQ1Tkh_QPODHU2ij5Kddg%3Areddit.com&share_id=mzp7vumAGhyWo1v8XmK3A&utm_medium=web&utm_source=share
https://discord.gg/Qfu6yw2
In summary, one hand pushes out bad feelings, and the other snatches stuff.
However, you can use both hands until you see the "fiber hands".
Don Juan advised that's the way to find the "lines in the hands". And once you get a glimpse of those, and can keep your attention focused there, you perceive your "tentacle body".
It's very startling!
But trying to use claw hand for "practical magic" might be a big distraction from learning to be silent enough that magic becomes natural and you don't need to be taught any techniques.
It is exactly my thought! If someone needs everything little thing "explained" regarding the claw hand (or anything else) before they start, they don't have any conception of what it takes.
I was shivering and feeling like I was going to die while covered in blankets when I started using it once, and I used the wrong hand for it, per the book, but intent is enough.
If the commenter is sick, then they should practice it, if not, who cares?
It didn't save Carobeth Laird, because in fact she wouldn't even try it.
She was the shamaness of her Lakota tribe (or whatever group she was in), but the Lakota's don't have real magic anymore.
Just rituals and costumes.
Yes that makes me very sad!
I was so cold even 4 blankets wasn't enough to stop me from curling up and shivering but I kept at it until I passed out while doing it and I was mostly fine the next morning.
It would be better if she had just did it, and then decided to write it off as a fluke after the fact. If she just acted, and then wrote it off afterwards, I'm certain she'd have a much longer life.
She was buried with a cheesy silver medallion belonging to my beatnik father. She always liked it.
Oddly, she was a family friend. There's a lot of historical collisions between Carlos and the witches, and me.
I'm still paranoid about the tall thin man who used to follow me around Morongo reservation, to keep me from falling into pits or getting shot by the native Americans living there.
Elmer was his name.
He was the lover of Ruby, the shamaness. Who scared the bejesus out of me.
Hi,
Do you mind asking some questions I have?
I usually only do the Life Saver Pass. When I first started doing it had a great effect like "well being". But now it doesn't have same effect. As it is mild and not a strong as it used to be.
Do you think I am now doing something wrong and not executing it properly ?
Thanks.
NOt enough silence. At first you were optimistic about it, and that brought the double out who thought you were on the verge of becoming its friend.
But you got used to it.
You just need more silence.
Let's see if I can get the AI to draw what I see doing it.
Nope. I had to do it in 2 images and combine them.
This is not an exageration.
In fact, what I see is even more remarkable, but it can't be drawn.
Hi,
Is it alright if I ask a few questions.
I read that the tensegrity shouldn't be done barefooted but is it alright to do it on the bed(standing barefooted).
Can Life-Saver Pass be done as many times as one wants or Is there a limit to it.
Thanks.
>I read that the tensegrity shouldn't be done barefooted
The witches Taisha and Florinda said that.
The fear was inorganic beings which are like insects and will crawl up into your feet, if you are outdoors in a specific area near Santa Monica. Where classes were taught.
But I say, HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE?!??
I want one...
I don't know why, but after I said I wanted to see it for myself, no one would tell me where that was.
There's also the story of Kylie being told she can't take baths, because worms will crawl up her vagina.
I'm of the opinion that Carlos was joking with her, and just wanted her to take sponge baths, like he does.
There's reasons for that... I fully expect that one of these days, westerners will get over the madness of killing their skin's biome daily, with soap.
Which leads to warts, fungal infections, age spots, wrinkles, and a whole host of other skin problems.
Accompanied by a weakened immune system.
So maybe the "worms" were also just a practical consideration and were microscopic. Even though seers could perceive them.
Realizing they lead to a yeast infection in women.
Perhaps Carlos was pretty much just teasing Kylie, but for a purpose that wasn't a joke.
Just my opinion though... Although the AI backs me up:
Yes, frequent bathing and certain soaps can contribute to yeast infections...
>Can Life-Saver Pass be done as many times as one wants or Is there a limit to it?
Sure!
However, it's also good to do a variety of tensegrity. So if you're doing so many times just because you haven't learned other movements, find Jadey's channel and learn some more.
Learn Zuleica's pass, which is very related.
Life saver pass is SPECTACULAR once you can "see" it.
But make sure you're doing it right. Cleargreen teaches it wrong, and the youtube demos out there all seem wrong too.
They turned it into an Asian morning exercise warm up. In some Asian countries, Japan in particular, large companies announce morning exercises over the loudspeaker, and everyone gathers near their area to do a prespecified series of exercises. This one being included at places I've seen it being done.
Taito in Japan for example. They tried to hire me back in the 90s.
At the end of the exercises, they do a power rangers salute to the company.
>Can someone be driven insane by inorganic beings
Absolutely! That's why this subreddit exists. "Fairy" threatened to drive me insane if I didn't do something to save this knowledge.
It's easy for them. They just pull you into their world, even if you're walking around in daylight and not doing any sorcery techniques. Then they release you after a few minutes. If they keep that up, you're functionally insane as far as other people go.
Or else you need to develop some really good stalking skills!
>and can someone be driven insane by practising sorcery? By insane I mean a loss of control.
No, the OPPOSITE is true. Sorcery makes you sane. And gives you control no normal person ever achieves.
It's mostly the internal dialogue that drives people nuts!
Bag ladies living on the street who go around talking to random objects, have raging internal dialogues.
So do psycho men.
So Is it OK to do tensegrity on the bed(barefooted)?
And there was some other things I wanted to ask.
When someone wakes up from sleep and sees a face in the room like picture, that after some time fades away, what is it, is it just a hallucination?
And if one sees a big pink puff with a cartoon(only outlines) in it, how far has the assemblage point moved.
I can't seem to deepen my inner silence. I can easily remove the words if I pay attention but they seem to come back when I am not noticing. Should I keep trying harder. Any Tips.
Thanks for answering. I really appreciate it.
Sure! However, some of the women used to say they always did tensegrity with shoes.
I do it with socks, because some movements need your foot to slide on the floor.
When you wake up and see a face, ti's just because your assemblage point moved during sleep, and hasn't returned to normal.
A face indicates a mid green zone position, most likely.
So you were "enlightened" for a few seconds!
That's all Asian enlightenment is. A very small movement of the assemblage point, but clearly something unusual.
As to what it is, could be an inorganic being followed you out of the dream world.
Or it could be one of the phantoms which populate them.
>And if one sees a big pink puff with a cartoon(only outlines) in it, how far has the assemblage point moved.
Early red zone.
>Should I keep trying harder. Any Tips.
Can't reach advanced levels until you get rid of it.
And there's really no tips. You have learn that yourself.
As for techniques, you already have the ones we believe work best.
But you could also try gazing at leaves. That's the fastest test of whether you shut off your internal dialogue. You get little flashes of weird stuff.
And fall asleep for an instant.
But only if you shut off your internal dialogue for a bit.
Hi,
This might not be related but,
How does one acquire a good control over your Internal Dialogue?
Previously I could think about what I wanted to and not think what I didn't want to. Then the control over it loosened I started thinking about things I didn't want to and remain stuck at them.
I thought this could prove harmful. As if one didn't want to intend something but they intended it.
I have an idea but would like to hear your opinion.
Thanks.
Darkroom practice, right way of walking, or just deciding to keep it off, all the time.
If those sound too hard, start simple.
Force it off, whenever you're driving.
It's a good test because you pass by all sorts of things that can set it off.
If you start to have no opinion about stuff around you as you drive, you can tell you're making progress.
Of course, darkroom is the ultimate, because you can't pretend real magic.
If it's there, it means you've held of fyour assemblage point for real (to some extent).
If a passage to another world opens up and you can step through, you've reached a deeper level of silence.
Of course, at that point you'll know "what it feels like", so you won't have any doubts.
But if you get it fully off, you're surrounded by endless dream scenes filling the air, into any of which you can go.
Or, inside any of which, you find you already are.
Zipping through the air into them, is a different skill, and not actually related to the internal dialogue, directly.
Keep in mind, no Yogi who ever lived, and even the highest Buddhist Master, including the Buddha himself, ever achieved more than a very minor level of removal of the internal dialogue.
You can tell from what they promise their meditation does.
Which isn't even talented beginner's level in here.
Look at today's post and you'll see that even the AI can rule out Buddhism and Hinduism producing the effects sorcerers get.
Unfortunately, eventually they'll notice we're cutting into their business, and start to pretend to be able to do what we do.
Or figure out some reason it's "evil" to actually practice real magic.
I thought the worms were like the afterimage of the penis pushing and pulling the energy body.
And then the association or rumors with the witches being lesbians like Carol had to do with "staying away from men" for 7 years like Clara told Taisha.
But then Carlos had a bunch of gay men in private classes? I wonder if the gay men had worms.
I believe the worms you quoted are a different thing than the ones that come from sex.
I'm aware of three different uses of "worm" spoken by Carlos and the witches.
They aren't related.
There's lots of "worminess" in the world of organic beings.
Such as these, who live down below the ground, in a place where light never reaches. As I recall, they even like frozen methane!
And small worms are a very likely form of life we might find on other worlds, even when they don't have beings walking around on dry land.
Here's the "bone eating snot worm". Also an extremophile.
Yeah don Juan said there fewer types of inorganic beings than organic, but more variety of inorganic beings.
You misquoted that as there being many more types of inorganic beings which actually makes more sense as far as I can tell, but maybe don was just referring to a particular band of earth's emanations.
The sex worms probably are only from penetration, hence 'stay away from men'. Which is why lesbian sex was non-wormy. I wonder if anal produces worms in the same way, so that could be a loophole.
That whole topic is messed up, because if men drain women through those worms, than all the male sorcerers should be trying to have sex as often as possible.
Which Carlos and the witches never advised us to do.
Cholita claims she drains the men. I don't know if Florinda taught her that, or she came up with it herself.
But when I assume she doesn't know what she's talking about, she always makes me look stupid in the long run.
I wish I knew why she keeps a wall clock that's always wrong...
And wrong differently. Not just running behind or ahead.
She changes it!
For a while I would try to change the battery to "help her out".
Until I realized, there was nothing wrong with the battery.
Apparently sex dents or does something to the luminous ball. In the eagle's gift when La Gorda and Carlos are sitting on the bench, they see a gang of juvenile delinquents coming over to them and they groped Gorda's breasts. But seeing them as luminous balls the ones that were virgins were very bright, on edge, and seemed dangerous. The ones that had sex had sort of darkened patches and were more contented or relaxed.
So men could still be drained from having sex, even collecting from the worms.
Net negative.
But I'm still wondering about the worms.
This is concise and very clear. Thank you.
Wow this is great thanks a lot 🤝
what's the purpose of collecting puffs ?