Hi , I wanted to post this experience to hopefully gain some insight into what happened to me in 1996 that changed my life to this day. I’m only interested in serious answers that are accepting the reality of what I am going to describe as having been a real event. One night in 1996 I went to sleep early at around 9:00 pm. That day , I had been swimming in the ocean and was very grounded in my body. I did not drink or take drugs. I was attending University and I had been living a healthy lifestyle. Sometime , in the early hours of the night , I estimate around 3.00 am , I started to feel there was something in my room. I was in a semi awake state where my body was asleep, but another part of me was aware of my surroundings. I began to feel an increased level of fear as the presence in my room was approaching my sleeping body; I could feel this happening in this pit of body state of consciousness I was experiencing. I could feel the intention of whatever was in my room wanted to come closer and my fear started to reach a panicked level. I started to desperately wake myself up to full waking consciousness because I now could feel this presence of something in my room was absolutely real and was in my room . It was pitch black inside my room . I used all of my will to wake myself up . I managed to pull myself out of this state into full waking consciousness and bolted upright in my bed , fully awake to see what had entered into my room. I gasped . Just as I sat upright, fully and 100% awake , at that exact moment, a large red sphere of energy, touched me , and retreated back away from me at a swift speed , in a spiral arc , shrinking in size as it retreated into the darkness before disappearing through a “ portal “ or through a divide into a separate reality/ dimension. Portal does not really describe its leaving point well. It was retreating back through into another dimension and was shrinking in side as it’s surface diminished through the divide. The sphere was large when it touched me , the size of a person, yet a round sphere. When it retreated in an elegant arc it was rapidly decreasing in size until its last dimension was the side of a tennis ball or a bit bigger. When the sphere touched me , it discharged a huge amount of energy into my body. So much energy that I fell back onto my bed and went into a out of body state where I was fully conscious, yet my body was completely prostrate and shaking as huge violent waves of energy swept through my body in a constant motion going from my feet , to my head, and back to my feet again. At one point I was “ back in my body “ and I looked at my hands and forearms, turning them over, inspecting them . I perceived them as green translucent arms and hands. I fell back into my out of body state. All night this continued with my consciousness alternating between my body and out of body , while the energy moved up and down my body. Finally, exhausted , at around sunrise, the energy had settled just enough for my “ self “ to be able to stay in my body , and I fell into a agitated twitching sleep because the energy was still moving up and down like a wave deep in the core of my body. When I awake the next day everything was totally different. My perception and awareness was completely different. Everything was energetic in nature as apposed to the normal solid world I had previously experienced. The new energy inside of me was not exactly compatible with the natural environment and my organic body. I proceeded to go into a new life that has been extremely challenging and complicated. I feel like I lost my life on that evening. My life continued to become increasingly hard to deal with the new and unknown energetic realities of my existence. I had several major subsequent experiences that I can only find parallels with from this tradition described in the books of Carlos Castaneda. I spoke with a long time practitioner from this tradition who said I was prey to an inorganic being. Later I accepted energy fields from the same alternate reality this sphere came from and lost even more self determination and agency over my life. How would a person get rid of foreign energy fields and this energy that was discharged into my body ? Any ideas on what happened to me ?
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Regarding your first question, recapitulation will get rid of foreign energy fields and reclaim your own... Make sure to do it properly, in the type of order the book suggests, aka recapitulate your personal interactions with actual humans.
Don't just skip to the inorganic being interaction, because it just sounds like you're obsessing over it, rather than it being all that serious.
Regarding your second question, you had a particularly strong interaction with an inorganic being. But that's not a big deal, you're just making it a big deal. Don't be a "leaf in the wind".
Start practicing, be a sorcerer, we use unbending intent. Make your stand where you are.
Of course it is entirely possible to be driven mad by an inorganic being, but it is also entirely possible to use that experience to transform yourself.
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Thanks for the sound advice. The main problem was the discharge of energy and the subsequent effects. Your leaf in the wind metaphor is prefect as I have not felt in control over my life since this happened. I don’t know if any specific techniques I can use to eradicate this energy and restore the previous reality of the known first attention I enjoyed. But I do hear you saying to simply assert myself more in the midst of the chaos this energy created. It was a huge event . I was not dreaming and I have not obsessed over it. I actually forgot it even happened after a few months and attributed the changes to practising Tensegrity. But in hindsight, everything changed profoundly after this occurrence. A Reddit member has suggested a technique he found to be very successful that I am grateful to have received and will give it a go. Thanks for your proactive feedback . Regards Caleb
You just have to start doing real sorcery. I think that was the original intention of this inorganic being or anyone else. You didn't choose this fate, but it's vital to accept it.
I think you’re 100% correct. After this happened, when I asked why this had happened and how can I get out of this predicament, i repeatedly would receive a very quiet answer “ you need to accept your fate “ . I would rage and yell, “ what fate do I need to accept ? “ . It only been recently that I have began to realise it meant to accept what has happened. So that’s very tuned into my situation. Thanks ver much for the affirmation. I’ve had some excellent suggestions and genuine supportive feedback. This is a good sign there are some genuine knowledgeable people here. Thanks Caleb
Look at where the first and second attentions operate on a daily basis. As others have wisely suggested, use recapitulation as they’ve described. For whatever reason you’ve been put on the warrior’s path. It’s up to you to find your fortitude if you pursue sorcery. A few inspirational quotes for you, but you already have all you need technically.
"A warrior must know first that his acts are useless, and yet, he must proceed as if he didn't know it. That's a shaman's 'controlled folly’. “
"Warriors jump over walls; they don't demolish them"
"A warrior thinks of his death when things become unclear. The idea of death is the only thing that tempers our spirit"
"In a world where death is the hunter, there is no time for regrets or doubts. There is only time for decisions"
"A warrior must cultivate the feeling that he has everything needed for the extravagant journey that is his life. What counts for a warrior is being alive. Life in itself is sufficient, self-explanatory and complete"
I thought about what you said to “ look at where the first and second attention operate “ and that is definitely something I can benefit from.
My attention is drawn inwards and attached to the feelings of entrapment and the inability to get back to feeling the first attention again.
So I had not thought to deliberately focus on the first attention and where it meets the second attention in daily life.
I tried to do this and could feel a pull away from the inert state of shock and fear I have been in due to the unknown and intrusive phenomena that began after this IOB discharged its energy into me.
So where I have failed is in my inability to take control over my life after this happened.
When I was a child I developed a profound fear of death. I became consumed with fear and anguish. I retreated from life and was frozen , unable to participate in any activities or focus my attention.
My breathing became shallow from fear. I had to see a child psychologist to gain some normality and get out of the catatonic state I was in. I don’t think this was ever resolved because I still have a profound fear of death and fear in general.
I think this has contributed to my reaction to the IOB experience to shut down and not have the ability or foresight to create strategies and solutions.
I have just been getting through each day feeling there was no way out because tris new IOB energy has pulled me into another reality.
So I thank you for the practical suggestion of training my attention on where the first and second attention operate so I can move towards the first attention side of reality and life.
And of course recapitulation is essential given my fear of death and the effect this has on daily life. Thanks very much. Caleb
You are most welcome. Your history reminds me of Don Juan telling Carlos about a dent in the luminous shell. It’s entirely possible this IOB exploited this dent from your past. Fear can move the assemblage point, and in your case a point in your shell where you had to retreat to heal as you have done in the past. Perhaps they issued it as a challenge to assert your power over a familiar point of vulnerability. Remember Carlos having to run in place during times of great fear? The magic is the simplicity of the action to trap his attention on the tonal. The known.
We don’t have the benefit of our teachers’ presence when we face these challenges. They did teach us that our fear of death can be something when properly harnessed to help us be more impeccable in the face of the unknown.
If the feeling of fear pulls you into your second attention, can you quiet that voice and stop the world? Can you easily pull yourself back to a more normal first attention state?
If I recall correctly, we’re taught to learn to move our assemblage point to various predictable areas of our energy body as fluidly possible. Once you master this movement, you claim it as power. Take the challenge, claim your power.
Thanks very much for this reply. I had not considered the possibility of a vulnerability in my energy field. Focusing on the Tonal is very difficult and seems to trigger a huge amount of pressure. It is something I have to take as a challenge like you have suggested. I really appreciate the pragmatic insightful suggestions and inspirational conclusion . It’s really helpful and I am very grateful. Thx Caleb
Can you break this up into paragraphs please!
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Hi , I’m new to reddit. I re formatted the post into paragraphs. When I tried to save the post the save icon would not work? I tried several times but the reformatted post would not save. I will keep trying and get it right or deleted the post as it should be legible . Thx
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Sometimes changes aren't displayed immediately, maybe because of caching done by the app.
I had a similar experience in 1995. The challenge for me is to not overindulge in fear and imagination. One must assume a detached sober awareness (second attention) when dealing with energetic beings and non-ordinary reality.
You’re absolutely correct ; detached sober awareness. I will have to selectively retrieve that state of being from the chaos of the mind and hold onto it with deliberate intent. Did your experience also result in receiving a huge discharge of foreign energy into your own body / energy fields ? Have you posted your experience before? I would be interested to hear about it if possible. Thx Caleb
No I lost a lot of energy. I figured out a technique to go directly into my dreaming body. I've tried to journal about it but it depletes me energetically just explaining it. I know I could do it again but I have people in my life that depend on me. Going back is truly a place where I could lose all personal history. Needless to say it is incredibly awesome but extremely serious as well. Someday I'll venture back when I'm ready and have built up enough energy for it.
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One night in 1996 I went to sleep early at around 9:00 pm. That day , I had been swimming in the ocean and was very grounded in my body. I did not drink or take drugs. I was attending University and I had been living a healthy lifestyle. Sometime , in the early hours of the night , I estimate around 3.00 am , I started to feel there was something in my room. I was in a semi awake state where my body was asleep, but another part of me was aware of my surroundings. I began to feel an increased level of fear as the presence in my room was approaching my sleeping body; I could feel this happening in this pit of body state of consciousness I was experiencing. I could feel the intention of whatever was in my room wanted to come closer and my fear started to reach a panicked level. I started to desperately wake myself up to full waking consciousness because I now could feel this presence of something in my room was absolutely real and was in my room . It was pitch black inside my room . I used all of my will to wake myself up . I managed to pull myself out of this state into full waking consciousness and bolted upright in my bed , fully awake to see what had entered into my room. I gasped .
Just as I sat upright, fully and 100% awake , at that exact moment, a large red sphere of energy, touched me , and retreated back away from me at a swift speed , in a spiral arc , shrinking in size as it retreated into the darkness before disappearing through a “ portal “ or through a divide into a separate reality/ dimension. Portal does not really describe its leaving point well. It was retreating back through into another dimension and was shrinking in side as it’s surface diminished through the divide. The sphere was large when it touched me , the size of a person, yet a round sphere. When it retreated in an elegant arc it was rapidly decreasing in size until its last dimension was the side of a tennis ball or a bit bigger. When the sphere touched me , it discharged a huge amount of energy into my body. So much energy that I fell back onto my bed and went into a out of body state where I was fully conscious, yet my body was completely prostrate and shaking as huge violent waves of energy swept through my body in a constant motion going from my feet , to my head, and back to my feet again.
At one point I was “ back in my body “ and I looked at my hands and forearms, turning them over, inspecting them . I perceived them as green translucent arms and hands. I fell back into my out of body state. All night this continued with my consciousness alternating between my body and out of body , while the energy moved up and down my body. Finally, exhausted , at around sunrise, the energy had settled just enough for my “ self “ to be able to stay in my body , and I fell into a agitated twitching sleep because the energy was still moving up and down like a wave deep in the core of my body.
When I awake the next day everything was totally different. My perception and awareness was completely different. Everything was energetic in nature as apposed to the normal solid world I had previously experienced. The new energy inside of me was not exactly compatible with the natural environment and my organic body. I proceeded to go into a new life that has been extremely challenging and complicated. I feel like I lost my life on that evening. My life continued to become increasingly hard to deal with the new and unknown energetic realities of my existence.
I had several major subsequent experiences that I can only find parallels with from this tradition described in the books of Carlos Castaneda. I spoke with a long time practitioner from this tradition who said I was prey to an inorganic being. Later I accepted energy fields from the same alternate reality this sphere came from and lost even more self determination and agency over my life. How would a person get rid of foreign energy fields and this energy that was discharged into my body ? Any ideas on what happened to me ?
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