Hello..... I'm trying it this way! I registered here to communicate with like-minded people, I come from the GDR, now East Germany. Unfortunately, I can only speak a little English, which forces me to translate everything with Google. Please understand if the translation is not so good. Well, what can I say, I have been practicing seeing for about 10 years, but more in the waking state, namely by looking at the sky. Some of the things described here I see in the light when I look at the sky. I also see glowing threads and concentric circles that can be seen one after the other on layers of different sizes. I often float through tubes that are endlessly long and lead in all directions. It can happen that I maneuver into a scene in which I appear to be someone who is communicating with people who are there. Another experience, for example, is that I fly over forests, mountains and valleys where I see brightly lit rivers from a bird's eye view. I often experience a wonderful tingling sensation and have the impression that I am slowly emerging from the physical body. For some reason I have come across this forum. I have read all of C. C.'s books because I was looking for explanations and I found them in the books. It is difficult for me to exchange ideas with like-minded people because there is no one in my area who I can tell the things I experience and see (because I would then be labelled as crazy, so I keep it to myself). So I thought, what could possibly go wrong if I register here? I would be happy to receive feedback and please explain to me a little how I can write to you here. I am a bit older. But I can use a computer ;)
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https://discord.com/invite/Qfu6yw2
Two different locations for chatting here!
Good morning.... I just tried to open the two links, but unfortunately it doesn't work?
In the one below I pressed the accept invitation button, but nothing happened?
If you are using your phone, you should be able to view a chat function at the bottom of your screen when you are on Reddit. If that link doesn't work and let you join the Castaneda students chat, you can go to the top of the Castaneda page and choose between "feed" and "chats".
The second link is for Discord, another application, and requires that you install another application to be able to use it.
And what is the name of this application? APP?
Discord?
Yes, you'll need to install Discord on your phone to chat with people here.
I did some cursory research and suspended accounts (which Reddit seems to have suspended yours automatically) cannot join Reddit chat.
It might be based on your location (maybe public library usage?), if you haven't done anything to be suspended/banned on Reddidt before.
Dann soll ich mich nochmal anmelden?
I'm not registered at any library! I can register again, but then I have to choose a different name. Can I then let them know beforehand that I'm ManueFischer from Germany?
Sorry, the library thing was just in case you were using library to access Reddit. If you were banned or suspended on another Reddit account before, it is more complicated. You need to go through appeals process and besides that I don't know anything about it.
Dann wäre es doch bestimmt einfacher wenn ich nochmal ein neues Konto bei Reddit aufmache, dann heißt es halt manuelfischer irgendwas?
I don't know. It seems difficult at the best of times to get unsuspended, so chances are that you won't be able to access the chat. I don't know other reliable options besides the Discord.
What surprises me is that I can write here?
Zero surprise, your posts are only allowed through with moderator approval. Each time you say something it needs to be approved. If it isn't approved manually it won't show up at all.
I have now downloaded, installed and logged in to Discord and now I need a statement from you that you can see or perceive me?
You're good now!
I can't translate in the app, right?
You'll need to figure out how to translate for yourself, there are lots of options available for that on-line. We connected you to the software, but the rest will be up to you.
Kind regards and good luck!
Everything is fine, if I use discord online I'm fine
Hab jetzt die Online Version gefunden scheint zu funktionieren.
Found the online version seems to work
I can't say for sure. Best to look into appeal process. I do think that if you were banned/suspended before on another account, that deleting or remaking your account will not help you.
But the Discord does not require the appeals process nor does it require making a new account if you would like to chat.
There’s also a Free Tensegrity Class on Saturdays.
If you wait, either a few hours or until the next day, the auto generated subtitles should be translatable into German
OK das schau ich mir an. Danke
Wenn es dir nichts ausmacht, darf ich fragen, welche Praktiken du angewendet hast, die es dir ermöglicht haben, diese Erfahrungen zu machen?
Wenn es dir nichts ausmacht, darf ich fragen, welche Praktiken du angewendet hast, die es dir ermöglicht haben, diese Erfahrungen zu machen?
I have to say that I wear glasses. About 11 years ago I tried to correct my eyesight through exercises and glasses with small holes. When I then looked through the glasses I noticed that something was moving in my eyes that behaved like a frog's tadpole when they are still small. I panicked and went to the eye doctor to have it checked out because I thought it was a parasite. The eye doctor said it was an illness that everyone gets sooner or later. He used the term flying gnats. He then said I shouldn't worry, they wouldn't affect me. One day I looked up this term on the Internet and came across a page where these flying gnats were described as something completely different! There they wrote that they were the first form of consciousness light. At that time I was only relatively at the beginning of my journey (I had experienced a few strokes of fate before that threw me off track a little) I gave up my job because I realised that it wasn't right to chase after money, as something you didn't expect could happen at any moment! Sorry if I'm going on too much, but it's just part of it. Anyway, on this site they described doubling, which is the same as squinting, and for at least 2 years I looked at a board on which two concentric circles could be seen. One circle had a black border and a light area in the middle, and the other was exactly the opposite. Now you had to squint so that a 3rd circle could be seen between the 2 original circles. This 3rd circle had to be grey and you had to do it until you could do it without much effort. Then after about these 2 years I noticed layers that looked as if they were transparent. But after further consideration, that was a fallacy, because what I initially saw as transparency was often not transparency at all but rather a reflection of a layer that I could not yet perceive. Then I noticed these worm-like threads which contained light inside. I then got in touch with the operator of the site, who explained a few things to me. I can tell you a lot more, but since I read here that you shouldn't influence anyone here, since this is a finished 10,000-year-old system that works, I would rather wait and see how you react to what I have written here. Perhaps we can exchange ideas? I really enjoyed reading the Castaneda books and found many explanations in them for things that I can perceive. For example, inorganic beings are described in three types: those that look like cigars, those like round balls or circles, and those that are like tubes that you can float through. I didn't understand it at first, but I often read the books again to look up experiences and then I understood what it meant. I can even see the emanations. At first I saw a huge, light pink, glowing wheel in the sky, which really blew me away and was ultimately the reason I started reading the Castaneda books that had been on my computer for about two years. Today I'm very glad I took this step. Now I'd rather wait and see the reaction. I don't want to confuse anyone or discredit the wonderful work you're doing here.
Hello. Are you referring to stereoscopy or something else?
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Can I find you on discord?
I don't know if they are the same but if you are interested, the Chartres panels! Only not as geometric shapes but as concentric circles so that one has a black border around a light central area and right next to it a circle with just a white border around a black area, bring these two by squinting to a third in the middle, which then mixes the colors of the original circles so that there is a gray circle in the middle, the good thing about it is that you practice until you can keep the gray constant and then you will notice layers on which the same shapes of the circles will appear. When you can see these, you only use the circles that you were able to create through the picture.
Thank you. That sounds great! But it seems to be different from a stereo pair, though similar. It would be great if you could share an image here.
If you tell me how I can share it? Right now I only write via the reply box.
https://preview.redd.it/2xzy56xovone1.png?width=430&format=png&auto=webp&s=2d739612d0060333b6f34d69b8ae6929222b32b4
In the message field below, there is a picture icon. You can click on it and choose any image you have.
War die Kreisbetrachtungsübung die einzige, die dir geholfen hat, Wesen zu sehen und außerkörperliche Erfahrungen zu machen? Ich habe versucht, dir eine Nachricht zu senden, aber Reddit erlaubt es nicht – es zeigt an, dass dein Konto gesperrt wurde. Könntest du versuchen, mir eine private Nachricht zu senden, oder gibt es eine andere Möglichkeit, wie wir in Kontakt treten können, um dies im Detail zu besprechen und voneinander zu lernen?
Übrigens, für Übersetzungen kannst du ChatGPT oder Gemini verwenden – sie sind viel genauer und besser als Google Übersetzer.
Good morning, I've now signed up for Discord, perhaps we can communicate through that? There was another exercise: it's called seeing the afterimage, it works like this... you look at an object for around 15 - 30 minutes, after these 30 minutes you look up into the sky, for example, or at another bright surface. You should now perceive the object on this bright surface and look at it until it disappears. With this practice, the concentric circles and thread-like formations soon appear inside this afterimage. If these two structures are perceived permanently, you no longer need the two practices, but carry on working with what has emerged. I suspect that it is similar to Castaneda, only with Castaneda more attention is paid to the manifestation, and with the way I do it more attention is paid to the cause of the manifestations, because I have found out myself that all information that manifests itself is stored in these concentric circles. You are basically looking at direct knowledge and everything that appears after that is already a little compromised, because manifestations are actually a kind of indirect knowledge. However, there is another simple way to perceive these mini-circles! I found this out myself and that is you can look at the sun with your eyes squinted so that you can see into it through a small slit, then you will see what light or consciousness is made of, because in my opinion there are only concentric circles in different designs, which can also stick together behind each other to form worm-like threads. Then you can, for example, look into a light underwater with your eyes open and move them back and forth, then you will perceive many things that are happening in the eye from the material understanding. But the material understanding is a fallacy and gives you the impression that the perspective from your direction is reality, but that is wrong! Because from a material perspective you only ever look at one thing! But as a seer you look from the direction of the source into the material form of existence. A small example: people think they can look into something with a microscope, but they don't realize that even in the smallest world perceptible with a microscope they are only looking at it. They practically lack the understanding that in order to have complete perception you have to look from the inside out. And these concentric circles help with this, which everyone has perceived at some point in the form of overexertion or when you quickly change the direction of view with your eyes, you sometimes see something like an echo sliding behind you or you focus on a point and then you perceive any movement at 180 degrees outside, for example birds pecking at trees but also things moving in your eye. So that should be enough for now. As I said, I would like to share my findings and experiences. If it doesn't work via this site, I signed up for Discord with the same name and everything works! Maybe I can enter your name there?
( that even in the smallest world perceptible with a microscope they only see into ).... that even in the smallest world perceptible with a microscope, they only see things from the outside..... This is the better translation
From my perspective, the thing with the beings is a bit like that. These concentric circles and threads and also clouds are not foreign things in my opinion! That's why I was initially confused when reading the Castaneda books... because what I see reacts to the movements of my eyes and the compressions that I apply with my eye muscles. But it is probably the case that the first manifestations arise from what I see, which are images or scenes from other times or worlds? The practice that I am doing at the moment is about releasing the light of consciousness that is contained in these circles (it looks like a glowing liquid that sloshes back and forth) (which shows itself as a tingling sensation on the skin somewhere on the body) because the goal of achieving freedom is exactly like with Castaneda, just a little different. It originally comes from the Emmental, which is in Switzerland. And the seers who practice it there have, in my opinion, never heard of or read anything about Castaneda. I'd be happy to give you an insight into these things, and if necessary I'll give you an email address that we can use to communicate. I just don't want to offend anyone in this forum. Because in this field of knowledge you don't often see people teaching for free, which shows me that they're serious! I'd also like to experiment a little with the things that Castaneda teaches, because I'm fed up with the world as it is (please don't misunderstand me). I just want to be free and experience the third attention described in Castaneda, in which the second is mixed with the first, if I've understood that correctly?
There is another exercise that I have thought up myself. I trade a little on the stock market privately... and when I looked at the monitor I noticed that I could see the tubes that I described at the beginning. Then I took a laptop and created a white screen with Paint and drew a black dot about 1 cm in size in the mirror. Now you have to try to look at the dot, you must not let yourself get distracted, always look at the dot and try to perceive the area around the dot as well, after a while a depth should appear and if you do it well, emanations!
The moderator is constantly deleting messages here, and I'm not sure if it's your messages or someone else's being deleted. In any case, could you send me your Discord username so we can talk there? You can send it via personal message or here, whichever works.
manuelfischer
I just tried to add the name NoWoodpecker2969 as a friend on discord, but it didn't work?
I'm not on discord but I'm creating a new account now and will add you soon.
I have sent you a friend request on discord
Sorry, I just noticed that Discord wrote en to the users differently than I entered, here is the correct name manuelfischer1
No worries, I have sent a new request.
I agreed
No one has deleted one message in this thread. His messages need to be approved manually, and there are periods of time where no one is paying attention to the sub, contrary to your opinions about it.
More attention is not paid to manifestation rather than the cause, the cause is inner silence and the movement of the assemblage point.
The cause is all that Castaneda was interested in from the start. Who are these Emmental seers, please?
It doesn't matter who Emmentaler Seher are! You're right! As I wrote before, I don't want to get too close to anyone here!
Lots of ways to move the assemblage point, but we need to move it as far as possible every day for freedom. One of the things here is that it's daily practice at moving the assemblage point. You plainly love gazing, just like me.
I was given advice that if you did a really good job of working at your gazing practice, blue points will fill your vision at some point within a day at most after doing a good job. Takes about 4 hours of gazing for me to have that happen.
I have been seeing for 10 years now, about 2-3 hours a day, except in winter when it's too cold. After just a short time I notice blue, violet and silvery-pink spots, but that's not the main thing in my practice, I stare at concentric circles on several transparent layers that look like the wing membrane of a fly, for example. When I see the blobs of color, I try to follow the spots using eye muscle compression... I've even had visitors who looked into my pupil while I was seeing, and during the session I told them when a node of the tube flew from behind me to the front and each time they saw a bright, flash-like spot light up in the pupil and they were very shocked that such a thing exists. For example, I read here in the forum that some people in the dark cannot explain why only one eye can see while the other is blind. I can give you the reason for this, because I'm trying to get from the right field of consciousness to the left field of consciousness. The left consciousness is separated from the right consciousness by a bridge thread. So you first have to find this bridge thread to get from the right to the left side. The normal person is at home in the right consciousness. You can compare it with Tonal and Nagual perhaps? The right side defines your own history, while the left side results in a much greater perception. You can imagine it like this: in the right side you see matter as you think it looks... in the left side you see what matter actually is, which is something completely different. A paradox! Something that you can't really explain in words!
There is only one thing that is important, to move your assemblage point as far as you can every day. I know what you mean about the wings of a fly and it is captivating, but there is more beyond it. Those wings can disappear and every single thing can turn literally golden in the air.
If you've decided that you are finished the process, you limit yourself.
That's all I have to say about it.
Use the resources available and take a look around!
I didn't say that it was over for me and that I was limiting myself because of it... I didn't register here for no reason...
Awesome! Super glad to hear it! Plenty of resources here to take advantage of!
I just need to get used to this forum. Someone wrote to me saying I was banned, but I still write to you and others here... then I was advised to join Discord for this reason, which I did! But now I've noticed that I write to people more here than on Discord? So why does it seem so complicated?
You aren't banned, Reddit automatically suspended you because of something you did on a previous account. We need to approve your comments manually (which is tiresome because we don't receive notification of it and then people complain if we are too slow). It's annoying to have to approve every comment you make manually, but if the interaction is happening here, we will handle it. Discord can be slow at times, for sure but sometimes people do ask questions there
I can happily get a new email and then register here again... That's better, isn't it?
I don't think it works. You can find all sorts of people complaining about the cancel culture on Reddit, after all. It takes more effort than a new e-mail and I'm not exactly sure what is involved.
I just want to accommodate you so that you don't have to do so much work with me!
It's all good, but that is part of why it would be better to move to Discord. Easier for all involved!
I'm logged into Discord online, but how do I communicate there? I can read what people write.
Look near the bottom and see if there is something that says Message #general, type your message into there.
There are also headings on the left to explore different types of information on the Discord too.
Okay thanks
Did you find " Carlos Castanedas chat group"? You can type in there, perhaps by " general".
I think I found it, but I read completely different names there than here?
Basically, you wanted to know how to be able to chat with like-minded people, and now you can! So I think that this thread has largely served its purpose for you!
If you want to call it that, ok
Since you're taking such good care of me... I've realized that I'm more of a stalker at the moment! I've been trying to master lucid dreaming since the day I started reading Castaneda... but I just can't seem to get it right, neither with affirmations before falling asleep, reality checks, looking at hands and so on... nothing that just works for several years without having to wait a long time? For example, what danl999 describes about reaching the 4th gate through waking dreaming is interesting, since I don't reach the first 3 gates when I'm not dreaming, do you? And one more question: if I'm doing a darkroom session and the room isn't completely dark, could I use welding goggles with very dark lenses or would that be inadvisable because it might affect the comfort?
Instead of lucid dreaming, try using the terminology here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/terminology/
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/terminology/astral_projection/
But this has helped me recently, I can reach passive witnessing fairly consistently.
"Years before, when I had acquired a degree of experience in dreaming, I had asked don Juan if there were any known steps which were common to all of us. He had told me that in the final analysis every dreamer was different. But in talking with la Gorda I discovered such similarities in our experiences of dreaming that I ventured a possible classificatory scheme of the different stages.
Restful vigil is the preliminary state, a state in which the senses become dormant and yet one is aware. In my case, I had always perceived in this state a flood of reddish light, a light exactly like what one sees facing the sun with the eyelids tightly closed.
The second state of dreaming I called dynamic vigil. In this state the reddish light dissipates, as fog dissipates, and one is left looking at a scene, a tableau of sorts, which is static. One sees a three-dimensional picture, a frozen bit of something - a landscape, a street, a house, a person, a face, anything.
I called the third state passive witnessing. In it the dreamer is no longer viewing a frozen bit of the world but is observing, eyewitnessing, an event as it occurs. It is as if the primacy of the visual and auditory senses makes this state of dreaming mainly an affair of the eyes and ears.
The fourth state was the one in which I was drawn to act. In it one is compelled to enterprise, to take steps, to make the most of one's time. I called this state dynamic initiative."
Art of Dreaming is for when you can consistently look at your hands, this paragraph is intro-level from the Eagle's Gift (Chapter 7: Dreaming Together).
>if I'm doing a darkroom session and the room isn't completely dark, could I use welding goggles with very dark lenses or would that be inadvisable because it might affect the comfort?
Try it out for yourself! But the room doesn't need necessarily to be completely dark either, my darkroom isn't completely dark, but fun stuff happens there too!
How long does it take for you to see, say, a scenario of something in the dark?
For me to see a scenario in the dark? Sure, my latest post about smoke and viscous oil took me about 4 minutes before stuff started happening.
If your assemblage point is rusty it can take longer (but with 10 years practice of gazing it shouldn't take too long). Forecast at least 3 hours for about 3 weeks time just to give it your best.
Inner silence is the most important thing!
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/1j216cf/black_smoke_and_viscous_fluid/
I have already done a few darkroom sessions, it became light and I had the impression that I was sitting in a sphere that was illuminated by a light above me on the left.... Is that how it starts?
Lots of different effects. This was just a huge shift (into the red zone). but yes, this is how it can start.
Why do you say red area when there was nothing red?
Red zone = unbelievable magic the type where everyone would literally think you are an insane person to start talking about it. Aka you might be committed to a mental hospital just to talk about it.
You sound like you are already doing it, especially if your eyes are open when the stuff you are saying in your original post is happening (like flying over rivers etc).
Start exploring the subreddit for tons of information!
What I described in the beginning entry, I notice when it slowly gets dark, but there seems to be a difference to darkness?
There is way too much info for one person to talk about darkroom until you are satisfied. The main reason that we want chats parcelled off somewhere else is not to clog up this board.
Get used to some measure of self-learning, but yes, darkness can appear entirely different than usual in darkroom practice.
All good until later
OK
Also start adding on all of the practices from Castaneda, they all do help!
I'll be surprised by what's on offer here, ok!
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Wo kommst du her? Ich wohne in Zwickau.