So I guess it’s been long enough for an allowed repost, but let’s not get on a streak of reposting too much content from past posts.
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u/danl999
14 points2025-03-15 14:12
I always worry when someone uses the term "Nagual".
HOWEVER, it's become clear over the years in here, with experiences and quotes from the books, that the term "Nagual" is multi-faceted.
A man can be a "father", "The President", a "lover", a "brother", and many other things, all at the same time.
The witches convinced private class students that they needed to call Carlos "the nagual".
I used to get very confused when Cholita referred to him that way, when telling me something.
I'd have to stop, because in my case I could perceive "the Nagual".
But she only meant "Carlos".
Thus all the confusion over this term. And even worse, the stories in the books fall into more than one category.
There's the drastic, over the top, orgasmic experiences Carlos used to give a climax to his stories.
Such as him flying around in cosplay dress, over the Eucalyptus trees, with Genaro.
If THAT'S
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u/appleofdeus
1 points2025-09-12 16:35
Id say that this illustrates the fact of being everything as in enlightment. Of course many think that this buddhism stuff is totally a joke or something that is just enhansing your self-importance and so on..
But from practice this is the reality, you, are just everything and seeing it isnt the joy of life at all, at least not in long term. Also not a reason to feel important, hard to explain in words, I have few motivation to actually text alot but....
So, from my experience this is extremely important, I'd put it that not just knowing the fact of it (enlightment) through the mind but definetly knowing it fully with you "whole self" is something that is accessible after a deep "stopped world" as everything meaningfull is after this gates...
Even Don Juan said it, though, only once, that we are everything... But unfortunately many ignore this way of "getting there" just because theres nothing about it in the CC books.
But for me its a stage where you have access to basically anything you want as seeing and so on. But practices like controlled folly helped alot as stalking to stop the world. one helped to get "there" the other helped to get off it since felling this loneliness in the universe for wekks isnt that cool, and controlled folly alows you to move as if nothing happened and helps the tendency of onself toi just emerge in this limitless Universe...
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This was posted in here, around two years ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/y0euo0/observers/
So I guess it’s been long enough for an allowed repost, but let’s not get on a streak of reposting too much content from past posts.
I always worry when someone uses the term "Nagual".
HOWEVER, it's become clear over the years in here, with experiences and quotes from the books, that the term "Nagual" is multi-faceted.
A man can be a "father", "The President", a "lover", a "brother", and many other things, all at the same time.
The witches convinced private class students that they needed to call Carlos "the nagual".
I used to get very confused when Cholita referred to him that way, when telling me something.
I'd have to stop, because in my case I could perceive "the Nagual".
But she only meant "Carlos".
Thus all the confusion over this term. And even worse, the stories in the books fall into more than one category.
There's the drastic, over the top, orgasmic experiences Carlos used to give a climax to his stories.
Such as him flying around in cosplay dress, over the Eucalyptus trees, with Genaro.
If THAT'S
Id say that this illustrates the fact of being everything as in enlightment. Of course many think that this buddhism stuff is totally a joke or something that is just enhansing your self-importance and so on..
But from practice this is the reality, you, are just everything and seeing it isnt the joy of life at all, at least not in long term. Also not a reason to feel important, hard to explain in words, I have few motivation to actually text alot but....
So, from my experience this is extremely important, I'd put it that not just knowing the fact of it (enlightment) through the mind but definetly knowing it fully with you "whole self" is something that is accessible after a deep "stopped world" as everything meaningfull is after this gates...
Even Don Juan said it, though, only once, that we are everything... But unfortunately many ignore this way of "getting there" just because theres nothing about it in the CC books.
But for me its a stage where you have access to basically anything you want as seeing and so on. But practices like controlled folly helped alot as stalking to stop the world. one helped to get "there" the other helped to get off it since felling this loneliness in the universe for wekks isnt that cool, and controlled folly alows you to move as if nothing happened and helps the tendency of onself toi just emerge in this limitless Universe...
I really tried to make it short....