Can IOB's time travel? Did I see an IOB as "pure energy" or was I trolled?

I did the usual darkroom routine. Sitting in the dark, forcing silence, and standing up to do the magical passes whenever it felt right to do so. (Sober, eyes open)

So i proceeded with these steps, trying to go deeper into silence. Suddenly a IoB that looked as a moving 3D statue (metallic, dark gray, looked like a statue) of a very famous cartoon character appeared in my darkroom, with two copies of it in the background (totalizing 3 statues of the same character). They seemed to be in a basement or somewhere like that. This statue in the forefront was moving it's head in a circular motion very fast. It was very creepy and I was scared.

Anyways, I remembered how Don Juan mentioned that things like this can be "aberrations of the mind" and you have to stare at anything you see to confirm it's an IoB (both of these quotes in "The Active Side of Infinity"). So I stared at the cartoon character 3D statue, in a very focused way. In (as if inside) it's forehead appeared a very bright orange light, as if an entirely "orange flame" or the "inner part of an incandescent light bulb" (but liquid). It's shape was that of a wave, or a ball of cellophane paper, or some indescribable 3D object. It was hard to describe this thing in it's forehead because it shined VERY BRIGHTLY. It also left an "after mark" or "wave" following wherever the character moved it's head in circular motion. The character was literally moving it's head and drawing with it in space because of the "after glow" it (the orange energy thing) left (that shined as bright as the light source itself). I looked away from it for two reasons:
1. It wad VERY CREEPY staring at the statue with the light "drawing in the air" as it moved.
2. I was scared the orange light would hurt/burn my eyes from it's brightness like incandescent bulbs do if you stare too long.

I stared at this scene for sometime but looked away because it was overwhelming in general. But it seemed that the more the IoB moved spreading the orange light, the more it "melted into the energy". I think I witnessed an IoB as it's energy form? (Or almost did)?

THEN, after ending that darkroom session I was wondering, damn how can I describe the IoB that I saw. It looked like a version of that cartoon character that I have never seen before and I couldn't find the correct words.

The following day this comes up in my feed: [https://www.reddit.com/r/infraredphotography/s/y6luqiLdl7]. The exact character from the darkroom experience (it was not the female cartoon character, nor the "artist" portrayed in this same link). Not just the same character, BUT THE EXACT SAME APPEARANCE (even when taking into account the filter). Exactly how it's depicted in this picture, even considering the filter.

This left me wondering, can IOB's time travel?

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 11 points 2025-05-07 01:15

Sorcery brings us increased and direct familiarity with aspects of time we are intentionally blocked from by society.

Or maybe it's just plain ignorance.

But our physics is catching up to the sorcerer's view, with regards to Spacetime. But whereas much of that is pure theory, with sorcery we can directly test it. Experientially.

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u/lostinforever89 2 points 2025-05-08 02:27

This made me think if "sorcery hardware" could be possible in the future, with enough advancements in physics. (I know crystals and the like exist). But other stuff.

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u/AthinaJ8 8 points 2025-05-07 06:02

I can't answer the question you made but that seems very good work so keep it up! At this point the question doesn't matter it's more important to me that you had that level of experience. You did very good that you didn't succumb to fear and gazed at it. Keep it up and tell us if something new happens!

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u/lostinforever89 2 points 2025-05-08 02:30

I will, thank you. The round head movements sort of hypnotized me at the same time.

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u/BBz13z 1 points 2025-05-08 23:23

Ya gotta get Ai to draw it, would be great to share the visual.

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u/lostinforever89 2 points 2025-05-09 04:31

Can you please recommend an AI?

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u/BBz13z 1 points 2025-05-09 04:46

I use chatGPT (paid sub), and I’ve also used: craiyon.com - it’s a free.

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u/lostinforever89 1 points 2025-05-10 01:16

Thank you. AI can't replicate the energy thing though I'm trying.

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u/keenynofRoem 1 points 2025-05-25 19:54

you could try describing the orange light as more of blinding ember- basically what’s at the end of a sparkler firework that allows people to draw in the air with them. 

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u/Intent-TotalFreedom 1 points 2025-05-07 06:57

I was just talking about that character with a friend the day before you posted this.

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u/Resident-Kangaroo-85 4 points 2025-05-07 08:01

IOBs certainly exist beyond the confines of what humans standardaly call "reality". Given this, its a given they can time travel, etc. Human society simply is uninformed and lacks proper concepts as well as science that capture/articulate the actual behavior and principles of reality.

That is why IOBs can do things that seem godlike to us. Thats we even call any of this sorcery/magick. Its because our baseline as human society is so below the bar. Sorcery wouldnt wow IOBs like it does humans, its already their baseline.

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u/danl999 12 points 2025-05-07 11:44

Time is only a construct. Most likely just a relationship between the emanations.

You can rewind it, and hopefully even move it forward a bit to see what's coming next. One of the Genaros in the books could do that, so that he could tell when someone was coming from too far down the road to see them.

The IOBs are vastly superior to us in that sort of ability, with the kind Carlos gave us having practiced it themselves, for billions of years.

Which is a good thing I suppose, if you decide to become a time traveler.

You can bring along some company.

I've become curious about sessile creatures. The living beings from before predation took over our world. They lived without ever killing anything. Not even plants.

I suppose they ate organic residue from other creatures.

I'd love to go back and see them.

And we can!

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I believe the one in the lower right was named after Obama.

Makes me wonder if it was an ear joke.

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u/lostinforever89 1 points 2025-05-08 02:20

That's weird because isn't there something about how we live in a "predatory universe" or something along these lines? (I'm not sure it's in the books). Which also makes it interesting that they could exist (the sessile creatures).

The thing with time travel is weird for me because I might still brainwashed by river of shit things, but I've always had this question about time travel:

When you "see" the future, are you traveling into time, or are you interfering/manipulating on it, so it happens the way you "saw" it?

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 3 points 2025-05-08 03:26

Bacteria always had predators and rarely leave evidence of bacterial predation in the fossil record.

I suppose these are the first colonies that formed and, as a result, didn't need to hunt.

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u/danl999 3 points 2025-05-08 10:36

I've been concluding lately that plant life wasn't the first on this planet, and it was more likely prokaryotes (bacteria).

Which makes plants descendant from animals???

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u/WitchyCreatureView 3 points 2025-05-08 11:54

Yeah, I can nerd out on this. When bacteria were first discovered they were called animalecules.

No scientist considers them animals now. Plants, animals, fungi, bacteria, and archeans are all different things.

Viruses are not considered alive, they're like a component that's compatible with and came from life that drifts around lifelessly.

Most biologists would say a prokaryote like a bacteria or something similar to bacteria was the first life here.

When you get to eukaryotes if it's not a fungus, plant, or animal it's called a protist. Fungus, plants, and animals all evolved out of a common ancestor protist.

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u/danl999 2 points 2025-05-08 13:18

We need to go back and see it ourselves!

But there's no mention of don Juan going back in time that far.

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u/BBz13z 2 points 2025-05-08 23:21

….And the cordyceps will end it all?

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u/danl999 3 points 2025-05-08 10:33

Both.

But viewing the future isn't very reliable.

There isn't already the trace energy of memories, embedded in those emanations.

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u/BBz13z 1 points 2025-05-08 23:19

If we live in a multiverse, time is a construct of this reality for the sensible purposes of the tonal?

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u/danl999 1 points 2025-05-09 11:30

As best we know, the emanations themselves are made out of time.

Which sounds super mysterious, but you hear things like that if you watch Youtube videos on quantum physics.

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u/BBz13z 1 points 2025-05-10 00:07

It does sound super mysterious, it’s also over my head, not in a self importance kinda way, but in skill level.

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u/BBz13z 1 points 2025-05-08 23:17

Broccoli Obama?

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u/Manticora_Draconiano 1 points 2025-05-07 14:32

Could you describe your darkroom practice (or your practice in general) please?

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u/lostinforever89 2 points 2025-05-07 21:17

This is the crux of my darkroom practice consists mainly of:

I did the usual darkroom routine. Sitting in the dark, forcing silence, and standing up to do the magical passes whenever it felt right to do so. (Sober, eyes open)

I really like these passes:

Dan says to practice daily for at least 3 hours.

And I also do recapitulation.

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u/Manticora_Draconiano 1 points 2025-05-07 21:36

Thanks! I'm just starting to do some tensegrity and recapitulation, so this helps. In your experience, does darkness have to be total?
I ask because currently I'm doing it in my backyard at night, no lights except some ambience light from public lightning. So it's not complete darkness, but at least I'm outside in front of a big tree.

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u/lostinforever89 3 points 2025-05-07 21:45

I strive for total darkness. I forgot to mention I wear an eyemask during practice.