Don Juan & nagual Julian timeline

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The image is age progressed, sourced from another photo, and it is my own speculation about what the nagual Julian could have looked like.

We have enough references, throughout interviews and the books published by Carlos, that place Don Juan's birth to the late part of the 1890's. Here we have an age when Don Juan met the nagual Julian; however, we do not have a mention of the nagual Julian's birth. f

There is an interesting clue provided by the book The Fire From Within, Chapter 9, The Shift Below, page 69”

“Don Juan said again that la Catalina was very closely related to us, because she belonged to the nagual Julian's party. He explained that usually the nagual and all the members of his party leave the world together, but that there are instances when they leave either in smaller groups or one by one. 

"The nagual Julian and his party were an example of the latter. Although he had left the world nearly forty years ago, la Catalina was still here. "

Presuming Don Juan revealed this to Carlos in the late 1960's or early 70's, this can point to the early 1930's as the date of the nagual Julian's departure.

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u/danl999 10 points 2025-06-01 10:56

We could still rescue Julian. He had to go to the inorganic beings world, according to Carlos and the witches.

Too much time spent shapeshifting, so that he couldn't move his assemblage point fast enough to "burn from within".

Maybe one of Cholita's stray cats would take him as an upgrade!

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u/Ok-Assistance175 4 points 2025-06-01 18:18

Interesting set up at the entrance; I can see how she'd sprinkle sorcery around there! The cow cat is keeping watch.

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u/Ok-Assistance175 1 points 2025-06-01 18:19

that is the kind of cat that would pee on your keyboard just for kicks.

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u/danl999 2 points 2025-06-02 10:08

Notice the birds. That's what she kept the first cat around for. To kill that blue jay.

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 1 points 2025-08-09 23:25
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u/NiKOLiNAZ 1 points 2025-08-10 15:20

Ayer, ordenando biblioteca, encontré el libro “Las técnicas de actuación en México” de Edgar Ceballos. 
La curiosidad me llevó al índice y me encontré con esto.
Ossorio/Julian/teatro/1869/1878
🤷🏻‍♀️