Tensegrity makes me feel drained

I'm new to it all, ive tried once to follow the videos and it made me feel drained, am I doing it wrong? Should I drop the moves that make me feel drained?

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 4 points 2025-08-08 20:37

You are not necessarily doing it wrong. Inner silence leads to sleepwalking, so it might be possible to feel tired for example

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u/danl999 17 points 2025-08-08 20:49

It's not the only path!

Women can do womb dreaming. I discourage men from that, but you can see the fantastic things Mad Prophet and Athina can do.

And you can pick "lazy" magical passes.

There's also recapitulation, which is just sitting in a chair, remembering the past, while you try to keep from letting your internal dialogue take over.

But at the last, you can do the one pass Carlos said was enough, plus the warmup exercise he said, "If you do only one pass, do this one."

We believe it closes your "gap", which means it ought to extend your life 10 years or so.

Zuleica's pass, and the "life saver" pass.

Both passes are SPECTACULAR once you can get silent and move your assemblage point.

When done in darkness, with no internal dialogue.

Recapitulation leads to time travel! Not pretending like a nutty Yogi.

Real time travel, in your physical body.

Here's a cartoon that shows both womb dreaming and the pitfalls, and recapitulation with time travel.

Here's Zuleica's pass in "raw" form. I bought a $4000 mocap suit, and then found out it doesn't produce good enough results. So ignore the shoulders, and make the movements a little bigger.

Here's "life saver pass".

https://www.google.com/search?q=life+saver+tensegrity+pass&rlz=1C1ONGR_enUS1049US1049&oq=life+saver+tensegrity+pass&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTQ4MzdqMGoxNagCCLACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:adaadfc4,vid:lK1Q0jy5dz4,st:0

Notice that the hips barely (if at all), turn, so it kind of tightens the stomach, which is where a gap opens as you age, until your energy of awareness escapes and you die.

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u/danl999 2 points 2025-08-08 20:50

Our "second attention" is much like "the force" in Star Wars, which was based on the books of Carlos Castaneda.

I like to see this. People don't realize what it means.

Yoda is so old, he can barely walk.

But then he switches to "the force", the way we can "shrink the tonal", and the second attention (the force) takes over.

We can do that too, but it's a bit advanced for you to think about at this point.

When you can time travel, then you'll figure out how to switch to the "force".

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=0e0f0e34ec054157&rlz=1C1ONGR_enUS1049US1049&udm=7&fbs=AIIjpHz2LkAPJDdeiKYzFgacvjxVmKaDDQLwycTxV2L0apBPyNTRLJN5Yi1fzSp12MAsxdd8_0S_kn80n_XklCQNJ0ZWjk8n-OZqzrEJRrhjQotrdcnnoxaK7FI0ykXXJ970Prf7jSo6xIVwOiAaJjd1GOMMoT94Q-LW2zRV1bV_-VOiOWRjnKZQg4vkQXauHv7Kt9djqv-6hLRvzXVwGYgOkc7VloGdRIy4kodplTmRGd7dfmDcudI&q=Yoda+walks+with+cane+then+uses+force+to+fight&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiR_d_wivyOAxUol-4BHbgVOikQtKgLegQICxAB&biw=1379&bih=1035&dpr=1.25#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:2da46f91,vid:QYOj7b65tbs,st:0&t=30

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u/pinkerton904 1 points 2025-08-09 03:13

So, for Zuleica's pass...the wrists touch the hips and then after they fan inwards and they go back..does the hand do a grabbing motion? What does the hand do as it goes back behind the hip?

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u/danl999 6 points 2025-08-09 11:00

No. The arms stay outward at the sides, and never touch anything.

The fingers flick at the end of each movement, which causes amazing flickers in the air during darkroom.

The hips rotate in that movement, whereas in "Life saver pass", they should move as little as possible so that the twisting is done at the waist (stomach).

I really need to get a good video of that one.

Jadey learned it, and in the presence of the witches who commented on it.

Maybe she'll record it one day.

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u/pumpkinjumper1210 1 points 2025-08-12 19:34

Jadey uploaded a Life Saver Pass video here:

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u/danl999 4 points 2025-08-12 21:02

I added it to the Lujan form I just gave to my animators.

That one was very short. So now we'll have this one, and I can eventually show the "special effects" it produces.

Not to mention, Jadey is the only one doing it correctly.

It's very sad!

Reni and Nyei do it completely wrong in a video.

It's embarrassing to watch.

So then when word got out, Reni made up the excuse that their way is a variation and also a right way to do it.

Reni seems to be a relentless liar when she thinks no one can call her on it.

But so are all the rest of the people CArlos elevated to teaching status.

And he said as much to warn us, before he died.

He never had access to the thousands we do, flowing through steadily.

We can just wait for the honest ones to come along.

Not that we can keep them long, but at least they learn that it's all real, and it all works, but it's a huge job that never ends.

With rewards so far beyond belief, that doesn't seem to sustain people in the long run.

I saw a great quote from Taisha the other day, but failed to keep track of where I saw it.

She basically said that if you want to learn sorcery, you have to make your schedule more flexible, so that when you need to work harder, you can.

Translation: You'll always need to work harder, but no need to scare anyone about that at first.

A tiny bit like Manson's famous trick, telling his followers:

“Don’t tell them you’re going to kill them… make them feel safe. Make them feel like it’s all right.”

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u/Voatagar 2 points 2025-08-23 20:51

Dan I ve been learning tensegrety from the videos with Kylie and two others on the back (I guess Reni?) are these accurate o should i look in the books of Carlos?
I remember starting qith this staff like 20 years ago, but was discouraged because learning it from books was impossible.

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u/danl999 3 points 2025-08-24 13:18

Yes, the first 3 tensegrity videos are 100% genuine. And Kylie's "attitude", although disturbing, is the ideal attitude at first. Later when you get real magic flowing around you, you can adopt a more playful attitude. But at first, "Kylie fierce" is ideal, and likely why Carlos had the witches take Kylie with them, when they ditched us after his death. She became their guard.

The 4th video is not genuine. Carlos was dead, and that was their first attempt at making up stuff, so they could keep the money flowing without Carlos around to draw crowds.

And all of the first 3 produce STUNNING magic, if you can do them with no internal dialogue.

They REALLY do restore your energy body.

If you practice darkroom, you'll get to greet it when it first shows up for the night, so as to thank it.

Even when you get more advanced, that can take as long as 10 minutes.

But if you keep it up and fight off your lifestyle's tendency to make you skip days or do a crummy job, your energy body will show up before you even turn off the lights to start practicing.

It's like some crows I feed in the parking lot at my business.

At first, I'd put out food and it took them a few hours to notice.

But after I put the food out steadily, they'd actually be waiting in a tree nearby, and swoop down as soon as I walked far away.

Unfortunately, now they come up to my business glass window, which has a coating that doesn't allow you to see in, but you can easily see out, and they peck on the glass. And squawk.

Which doesn't please the Chinese secretary.

Black crows are bad luck in China. And the Chinese are more superstitious than people who live in the USA.

I suppose I have to stop feeding the crows.

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u/pumpkinjumper1210 1 points 2025-08-13 04:34

the fingers are flicking behind the back?

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u/danl999 2 points 2025-08-13 10:08

No, in front. It's like you're sweeping the floor with your hands, and then just before the middle, the fingers flick the stuff you swept up, off the pile

Jadey did it around the witches, and commented that one said you were sweeping the beam of the assemblage point, away from the "me spot".

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u/dorbim 1 points 2025-08-13 19:09

By flick do you mean they throw away the swept up stuff? And if yes - in which direction?

I thought the fingers curl while the wrist goes in a backward direction...after it passes the middle and even after that.

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u/danl999 2 points 2025-08-13 19:45

they wave while you're turning, and then at the end just before you're going to switch directions, the fingers flick a little. But it's so little, I had to do the pass 4 times while Carlos watched, each time with a different amount of flick, to see if he approved.

But he never said a word. He was just grinning.

Maybe Jadey will do it on video? I could get it animated with the current set.

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u/pumpkinjumper1210 1 points 2025-08-14 01:52

So once the flicking is done, the hand just moves behind you, it's not really doing anything further until it comes forward again?

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u/danl999 4 points 2025-08-14 11:07

Yes.

However...

Once you can visibly see what this pass does, you might modify it.

In particular, you can scoop dreaming energy from the back when the hand goes back. And move it to the front.

this pass becomes VERY VERY VERY visible!

That could be why Carlos watched me do it over and over, just grinning and not explaining what he wanted me to change.

That was the first "sunday class".

So he could also have been setting people in class up, to be a little afraid of me.

He did stuff to cause that from time to time, such as seeking me out at a crowded workshop, and then coming over quickly like it was urgent, to give me a hug.

Knowing that being autistic, I'm not a big fan of hugs.

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u/Jadeyelmonte 6 points 2025-08-08 21:11

Difficult to say just from what you say here. By drained you mean tired? sleepy? which passes do you do?

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u/BBz13z 3 points 2025-08-11 02:51

When I first started I also felt drained and tired after doing tensegrity in darkroom. But stick with it cause that will change and you will finish your sessions with increased energy.

If I had to guess, based on my experience, the movements are new and foreign, our energy body is adjusting to them and eventually craves more for the boost you get.

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u/Universalconsciounes 1 points 2025-08-11 13:23

Whenever I am confused on what to do, I ask myself "what would Don Juan tell me to do?" At that moment, he tells me. Not a voice, like him. Him. Give it a try.