Does anyone have any knowledge on the likelyhood of Carlos being subject to a smear campaign by one of our lovely gov agencies? I've been reading for 20 years, and I just had the thought maybe, the "His books are great, but not true, and he ran a sex cult" are just manufactured smears. Don't forget, he was Time person of the year! He was hugely popular, and the teachings deviated heavily from our current way of life in many ways. I think has become very obvious that the gov has always been exceptionally good at changing the public opinion on popular individuals.
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I certainly wouldn’t put it past them.
There’s a recent documentary series on the History Channel being hosted by David Duchovny, that presents some of the clandestine and shady practices that the united states government has engaged in over the decades.
Activities that are now “in the light.”
They really didn’t like the cultural shifts that began taking place in the 1960’s and 1970’s.
Shifts that Castaneda was at the center of.
That's kinda low-level deception stuff. There was Operation Northwoods, where the Joint Chiefs planned on staging hijackings by Cuban terrorists to justify war with Cuba and killing American soldiers with bombs on US bases.
And in Daniel Ellsberg's book Confessions of a Nuclear War Planner he talks about how the Joint Chiefs planned to nuke every city in Eastern Europe and every city in Russia and every city in China if there was fighting in Berlin.
And there was the version of that which actually ended up happening which PNAC called "a new pearl harbor".
Carlos WAS a womanizer.
But so what? He's explained several times, that it's weird how uptight USA people are. And that in Mexico, if you're horny, then you fuck. No big deal.
We are after all, 98% Chimps. And Chimps live in a 24 hour a day orgy. They have to censor those "Chimp Dynasty" documentaries.
I see the same thing Carlos said about how uptight the USA is, in Asia.
I have an office there.
There was an 85 year old tech billionaire there who married an 18 year old, and I asked the opinion of asian women who worked in my office.
They didn't even understand the question. I was trying to ask if that was considered socially bad, but instead one said, "He has a lot of CHI!"
Anyway, sorcery allows womanizing, if you have enough energy. I don't, so I'm celibate.
And yes, Carlos was a trickster.
But all sorcerers are tricksters.
One time he put together a group of 3 to buy his house at Pandora, with me being the one who had the money to do it.
When I got there to "look around", he had me shake hands with what was likely Joanie Baker, the woman who took him to Morongo when he started looking for a "genuine indian informant" on the use of power plants. Back in the early 1960s.
He needed the informant, so that he could get his PhD.
Joanie was most likely an anthropologist groupie type, and most likely, my father was romancing her too.
So unknown to me who she was, and likely as a prank, Carlos had me shake her hand, while touring his home.
He had "granny cottages" set up in the back, and she was living in one, obviously awakened in the middle of the afternoon, by Carlos who was giving his "tour".
Later we were told it was just a stalking trick to get Joanie to finally find a new place to live, since Carlos was inevitably going to die, and she had to move on.
He did stuff like that all the time from what I've heard.
So why does it matter if he was a "trickster" or a "womanizer"?
As long as the sorcery works.
It's glossing to worry about that. Equating him being a "trickster", with his sorcery being made up and non-functional, isn't very logical.
It's two different topics.
And in the books, you'd almost think he was a fake, if it DIDN'T turn out he was a trickster womanizer.
The books said he was!
I don't approve of it, and hope we get rid of that aspect of sorcery.
It's a new day for that 8000 year old magical system.
We don't have to repeat that aspect of our pass.
Thanks for the deep response! Do you think there was a manufactured smear campaign against him ? I'm always fascinated by people who've never read the books, but know/think that he was really bad. And maybe he was, (I don't prefer to think that) BUT it's interesting how so many people have a strong opinion on something they know so little about.
Yes. It happens even now, to this subreddit.
Carlos warned us about it in private classes, calling it the "attack of 3s".
Anytime we make progress towards more people doing amazing magic, we get attacked. In groups of 3!
It's been going on for 6 years now.
Carlos got it in private classes, and used to point out when it happened, in lectures he gave us on Sundays.
It sure seemed to be true.
He explained that there was a specialized form of "inorganic being" (spirits), which feeds off human awareness, and took over this planet around 10,000 years ago.
They've driven all humans into the same state of perpetual self-pity, which is what makes their energy of awareness most tasty to those beings.
Keep in mind, we get to visually see what he's talking about in terms of the energy they "lick" from our feet.
There's no belief in our magical system. You get to perceive all of it.
And when we rise our own energy up, by fighting against our own self-pity obsession, we get to see our own energy rise up from the floor.
When it reaches above the ankles, you get amazing magic floating all around you. Visible magic.
Myself, I don't believe in those "fliers" (the spirits eating our awareness), and instead believe at this point, that it's a force which arises from the dark sea of awareness, which creates all of reality.
There's a force from there which helps us go further with magic, so my theory is that there's also a "dark side" to that force, which tries to pull us back to where billions on the planet reside.
In endless suffering.
People in our community who have never actually put in the work to learn this sorcery, get very angry when I say that.
But so far, I've never seen these beings.
And I get to visibly see several supernatural beings each night when I practice!
The spirit that helps "Mad Prophet", who you'll see commenting in here, taught me to swipe away the ceiling of my home, and leap through outer space in my physical body.
So I got the idea to go see what is supposed to be the homeworld of those beings, in the Pleiades star cluster.
But as soon as I prepared to leap in that direction, Mad Prophet's spirit "Lily" stopped me.
And a huge metal cage dropped in front of me, right onto my wooden floor. Lily explained, if I ever made it to their world they'd lock me up for a snack later on.
Is all this true?
Well it sure works. You get to see all this with your own eyes, and in your real body. We don't do magic with our eyes closed, like everyone else.
So naturally, no one with any sense cares if Carlos was what the critics claim.
Except for the part where they say he made the magic up.
No man could make this magic up. In fact, no one could even discover it, in a single lifetime.
It's a VAST magical system which took thousands of years to uncover.
And the only real magic you'll ever come across.
At least, so far no one can point us to anything else that's real.
Challenged, no one ever succeeds. They just start deflecting.
Instead of actually pointing you to something specific you can examine.
When you have the real thing, you daily get to gaze at things like this, from one of my cartoons on this type of magic.
I’ve always believed that most of the bad players who hate Carlos are nothing but prudes who simply can’t stand that we Latin Americans love making love so much, and who don’t understand why a “sacred man” would make sexual jokes — since they obviously prefer “virgin” or “asexual” leaders, perched on thrones of their own filth covered in gold and fake jewels…
But come on… Carlos left real wealth for this Community: Carlos left Olmec magic! True magic!
Leaving behind the worries about who is “good” and who is “bad” gives us the time and space to practice true magic — and that magic will cleanse us of our divisions, our obsessions, our rituals, and our need for leaders… That’s why even the simplest men feel it when a new day comes… And we celebrate it working like dogs and also dancing with joy!
By the way… I don’t really know that Time magazine, but in the dream I had before waking today, I saw a green back cover with a linear silhouette on the bottom right that I suppose was Carlos’ smiling face, and the caption: “Attend the Holy Innocents Day practice-event”…
I guess wherever he is, sometimes he laughs a lot at all this… And that doesn’t mean he’s reckless! That’s what the nahual is like! Why do we make such dramas and tantrums just to avoid accepting it?
https://web.archive.org/web/20030702030456/http://sustainedaction.org/Discussions/sustained_reaction_archive_index.htm
No need to manufacture anything, just the people from his Sunday class did 180, and went from adoring to pouring vitriol on his dead body, proclaimed themselves victims of a cult..
https://web.archive.org/web/20030730172515/http://sustainedaction.org/Discussions/sustained_reaction_archive15.htm
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Not everyone in the Sunday class, not even the majority. It was mostly a few vocal members that did so. The others were more lost and discouraged without a leader than angry.
Also manufacturing a smear campaign would definitely take individuals to do so. Otherwise there wouldn't be any "credibility"
The scientologists did it twice.
Sending one guy out with a video camera (those gigantic 1990s "camcorders") to go through Carlos' trash and try to videotape private classes.
Which turned out to be a good thing, because he filmed our own Jadey talking to Carlos outside Dance Home.
Bad players will try to claim anyone who stands in their way, is lying when they say they spent a lot of time around Carlos.
For a while Kachora's followers were saying I was never in private classes.
But they can't say that about Jadey because there's a picture.
So you made this user id just to tell us that?
I sure hope Tata Kachora's people aren't back.
I thought he'd fallen back into the the fake shamanism muck where he belongs.
For those who don't knoa about him, there was a time in the 90s when it wsa possible Carlos would allow a movie to be made, from his books.
For a while Bruce owned the rights.
Carlos said, Robert Redford could play him and that would be ok.
So I made a Robert Redford clone for my cartoons, who you can see riding that chariot into infinity in the Third Attention Cartoon.
Then Carlos added, "As long as Anthony Quinn doesn't play don Juan."
While all the hype of making a movie was around, Tata Kachora showed up with two men, wanting to star as don Juan.
You can read about it on the Joni Mitchell web page if you can locate it.
When they didn't make a movie, the two men who accompanied him decided to create the idea that he WAS done Juan, so that they could cash in.
One of them went around to groups "shaming" people because he claimed Carlos was "cultural appropriation", and they ought to be following that evil imposter Kachora.
I chased that guy away, and each time Kachora's zombie followers attached this subreddit, I went ant attacked Kachora's social media.
Which is easy to do since his version of our sorcery is totally silly.
>I don't approve of it
Why?
Because our best chance to reach the levels of magic don Juan and Silvio Manual reached, where Carlos wrote that between the two of them (more energetic mass), they could do ANYTHING they wanted to, is energetic mass.
We don't have the safety and speed of a lineage. We don't have any teachers still around to help us.
We only have energetic mass and hard effort.
So if some of our own start womanizing and thinking that has anything to do with sorcery, it harms our ability to sustain what we're doing in here, as a group.
You've already seen an attack this week, based on outsiders claiming Carlos wasn't "Saintly" enough.
Fake magic people always look for fake things, to prove some system is real.
So at some level, we do have to behave better than the new seers did.
They exploited sex constantly! We just didn't hear about it much.
Let's avoid that?
In order to build energetic mass.
I definitely think so.
If you're following the USA whistle-blower accounts in relation to UFOs, it's clear there were directives to shame abductees and make them look like they're crazy.
It's not a stretch they'd do the same thing to a person interacting with IOBs.
You can look up the Yankee Blue campaign and as William Cooper said, "The final card will be the alien card."
Don Juan mentioned several times how Carlos was vain and petty. Once Don Juan was gone Carlos indulged in his notoriety and used women. It doesn't take away from Don Juan Matus' story and teachings but was probably predictable with Carlos' personality.
You're understanding this from the point of view of someone who's vain and petty and has never seen outside having a self-pity filled existence.
The plague of modern man for the last 10,000 years.
So the meaning of it goes right over your head... Instead of interpreting it as don Juan urging him to continue to rid himself of the traces of the ordinary assemblage point, and its concerns, you're taking it as an attack on Carlos as an individual.
But I was in private classes for years so I'm an eyewitness to how Carlos behaved! There's no speculation on my part.
And Carlos was less vein and petty than the average person, by far.
I'm not saying I liked him personally. He was from a previous generation, and had too many of the concerns of a previous generation for my taste.
But we as far more trustworthy and reliable than any other man I've known.
He went out of his way to pay back even the smallest debt he believed he incurred, with others. Often giving a "blank check" to people.
Who by the way, inevitably misused it.
Maybe get some understanding before you try to interpret what don Juan was saying?
That's the classic mistake everyone makes. Misinterpreting the books of Carlos for your own personal gain.
Don Juan also said that he himself was a "fart type" of personality, who would kill to be in charge.
Did you take that literally too?
This needs clarification.
The process of sorcery requires what the books termed "dark energy," which is something that interacting with inorganic beings provided in Don Juan's lineage.
A dependence which bothered him.
Castaneda, once he was on his own, endeavored to discover other sources for this energy, and found that women could fill that role...to some extent.
As u/danl999 has found with Cholita.
So he utilized rather than "used" the (abundant-enough) energy of the women who were voluntarily around him as a renewable resource; knowing that those women would gain something they vitally needed in the exchange.
Motivation and a chance to purposefully do something grander with their situationally renewed energy.
Women don't lose anything when they lend you their dark energy.
It's not really noticeable to them, other than that the man who receives it, and can use it, becomes grateful to them. And finds them to be extremely valuable.
Their dark energy is fully visible to someone who can see! It's not like you imagine they lent you some.
It's "right there"!!!
And women do things all the time, to try to convince men they're very valuable.
Cholita's decorated my whole home.
Even painting an Italian landscape on the side of the house that faces her garden.
She has picture frames around the side stucco near the gate that leads into the yard, and created a giant tarot card inside the frame, directly on the stucco.
It's not like she has visitors, so there's only a single audience for it.
Which one?
I'll try to remember to get a picture.
Getting caught might be fun…for us to hear about anyway, mwa ha haa
She's become quite thankful lately. It's odd.
Something about those trips back to Mexico where she claimed she was "studying".
Which one?
People who have never been a womanizer will never know the immense power, energy, and assertion of will it takes to be one. It will drain you of almost everything. It's more of an accomplishment to be one, than any credit is given to do it. Every aspect of it.