You can't really understand this, until you can daily visit the second attention as a real place.
But you might get the point of it.
Why do we discard anything that's perceivable?
Not only do we discard it, but people get angry if you suggest we ought not to discard it.
I could use politics as an example of how irrational and angry people become over "belonging to the good guys" group, but maybe a better example is of a physicist I once knew.
I was designing an electronics device for a company, and he was designing military lenses and mirrors.
It was back in the early 1980s.
I was musing about warp drives, and he got extremely angry. Even turning red.
"You CAN'T go faster than the speed of light", he insisted.
So seeing he was crazy, I tried to rephrase it in terms he could accept.
I said, "Yea, but maybe you don't have to travel between all points along the way?"
Nope. He was religious about it.
Despite being a scientist.
NOW of course, he looks foolish. Even NASA is studying warp drives.
They seem to need the energy of an entire sun, but they're still possible. And there's plenty of stars to go around.
But back then his idea of what could be real, and what could not, was based on social pressure within his scholarly community.
And if they believed warp drives were foolish, than that topic was settled.
The same happens to all of us, when it comes to what we allow ourselves to perceive.
Shouldn't "Perceivability" be the only basis of whether you can perceive something?
Of course it should!
So work hard and learn to perceive the right half of this image.
Learn to daily walk off into the unreal.
So you can see in what ways it's different.
But not invalid.
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Nagual is AI slop now
I'm in awe of the AI drawing abilities!
You can't even tell on Youtube now, what you're actually watching.
How is that slop?
But in fact, others must agree with you.
They just neutered Grok in Europe.
Two days ago, it refused to do any drawing at all, due to lawsuits over there.
Today, it'll only draw artistic pastel style. Nothing realistic.
If I didn't know lawyers better, I'd say it's just a grudge against Elon.
What if these could be hallucinations? The onset of mental illness is a serious problem.
The visual world is not reality.
Don Juan introduced Carlos to La Catalina, a powerful sorcerer. Taisha Abelar described her in her books as a practicing physician and the owner of a medical office.
Magic enthusiasts, Don Juan's disciples, described real sorcerers with great power (they looked young for their age).
The first sign of power is a youthful body, if they are 50 years old. Episodes: La Catalina, Doña Solenad's transformation, Don Juan's walking speed (hills), and the fat guy (modest and shy) Carlos meets.
diablero who transform into animals, a water man who entered a river (river man).
Real magic is power like that of Don Juan and others like him. How can one understand where power lies and hallucinations lie?
Boy, this is an easy one...
But only because I've been here 6 years, handling questions like this.
The answer is, you're just giving your own personal reasons to reject the unreal. Despite the fact that you admit perceiving it might be possible.
You missed the whole point of the post!
Didn't I do a good job conveying this idea? I don't get it.
Besides, there's no other magical system that gets anywhere close to inducing what you call "hallucinations".
You're kind of making up the idea that any could!
To protect yourself from realizing, maybe you have to do a whole bunch of work or you'll miss out. Or maybe to protect your meditation beliefs, or religious beliefs, or "scientist" beliefs.
Also, if you asked a psychologist if you can self induce hallucinations, they'd say no.
Several in here tried that, and always got the same answer. The AI also gave them that answer.
You can't induce hallucinogens. And if you could, don't you think Buddhism would be far more interesting than it is, since they like to claim they have visions, but never would they think of claiming you can do all that awake, eyes open, walking around.
If you confront a "Zen Master" with the simple truth that you can in fact do what you see in this post, and so why should anyone listen to him since everything he does is with his eyes closed, and nowhere near as interesting, he'll say "you lie sir".
I've tried... Twice!
And in case you come up with the 1950s idea that's long been shot down, you can't "behave badly" and become schizophrenic.
Those are pretty much physicality based ailments, like bad horizontal brain wiring.
I guess the next argument would be to claim maybe this is an exception, and I'm just good at inducing hallucinations.
But there's dozens in here now, who can do this.
Dozens...
I just have the best drawing skills.
And no one in here has taken any money, from anyone. So there's no motivations in here, to deceive anyone.
There's no group, no church, no meetings, and no books or "courses" being offered.
Yet, people in here work very hard to try to help others.
So as to preserve this 8000 year old magic.
WHICH, you can verify seems genuine, if you look at ancient Olmec artifacts.
When I was young, I was asked, "Have you read Carlos Castaneda's books?" I answered no and had no idea. I was told the main character looked like me. They told me I looked like Carlos and laughed. These people are now some kind of magical healers, vegetarians, healing people. Childhood friends, now they're magicians, their parents were magicians. When I was 16 or 17, I thought they were jokes and pranks. It turned out they were serious.
And I decided to study in detail why these questions were asked of me personally (more than 25 years ago). I learned to swim at 38, do the snatch at 39, and I was overweight. And I couldn't walk from 09:00 to 18:00, or even walk 10 miles on trails.
"Serious magicians" are almost always obvious con artists. Especially if they're selling services.
Unfortunately.
We've been searching for anything at all that's real, anywhere on the internet, for the last 6 years.
We've asked 20,000 people to point to somethign real.
None could.
So if you can, point to it. Don't just tell us about it.
But you can't...
I searched for 15 before that, and Carlos for 20 before that.
Your friends are 99.9% for sure, fakers.
So you stumbled on the real thing.
And all it takes to find that out, is to follow instructions.
With no one taking any money from anyone.
As far as physical health goes, it's not really part of this path.
Other than, it's a lot harder to travel to alternate realities, if you aren't in the best health possible.
But if you aren't, what choice do you have, but to try anyway?
Carlos has always been sickly. You can learn about that, by reading all the materials we've accumulated, from many sources.
And there's 3 of his private students in here!
Not book readers.
His actual students.
Anyway, no one wants to convince you.
All we want is for another 500 to flow through here, and we'll pick up 1 more who actually puts in some effort to learn and sticks around a while.
Brain activity is 100% harmful and requires rest. Fat breakdown products, catabolism amino acids, and aging are responsible.
Visual imagery (escaping reality) overloads the brain, or results in dopamine addiction(started problem).
Hormones cannot be produced indefinitely, 24/7/365, causing euphoria (dilated pupils).
Pure oxygen mask, short euphoria brain, result nedeed delete high catabolism, limit perimeter bone head and diameter artery(oxygen blood).
Zone brain high very activity, nedeed problem zone fast rest, voice, hallucinacion, sympome shizoprenia.
size head giant brain, limit size( age 25-50), small brain, non magic.
That all sounds like you have schizophrenia to me.
But you can still learn magic.
Cholita is a private student of Carlos who is also helping out in here.
As best she can.
She levitates small objects right in your face. There's no denying she can do that, if she chooses to.
She walks through solid walls, floats into the air a few feet, can lift me up into the air with one finger, she commands visible spirits, can create phantom copies of where she lives that other people can walk right into, she can be in 2 places at once, and she can choose her age within 20 years or so.
All absolutely true.
But she's mad as a march hare.
Paranoid schizophrenia.
Her mom developed it also, at mid life.
It's pretty much why Carlos gave me the task of protecting her.
Madness is hereditary.
It's not something which happens if you don't obey society.
Self chek: heated head(pure artery), experimental high hallucination standard air 21% oxygen, and 25-27% oxygen mask/closed room, look thermo camera.
Levitation? Work brain boost(oxygen, protein, testosterone logic mind female magic standard 1/2 male), science hypothesis, small chance, prioritet experiment look heated head(real deep dream, frame thermo camera filming head).
Cancer liver Carlos, big eat drugs, is true my version. Reality good book, other drug, chronic damage liver.
Show us pictures of your manifesto!
Cholita has one, but she doesn't leave it open for me to see, more than once a year or so. I believe this page is 6 years old now.
Hmmm interesting…
My theory is Cholita is leaving you secret messages but because both of you are on different frequencies, neither of you can comprehend each other. Especially with not returning.
You should tell Cholita to watch Secular Talk.
I can't tell anything to Cholita.
She stops me halfway through the sentence.
And if I managed to finish that particular one, she wouldn't have heard it.
I suspect she's worried about things "rattling around in her heat", or she's worried that if she responds, I'll realize how crazy she is.
No way to know which.
I can only cross my fingers when I walk her to security in the airport, and can no longer protect her from her own actions.
Or protect the other people in the line...
Thus it's hard to imagine where she's living now...
Weird question. Where does Prophantasia stand between real and not real?
It's a recently made up term. The AI didn't really like it. But it explained anyway.
So I'd say that very small children have this, and then are slowly talked out of it by their family.
Punished actually... Hazed.
At 5 years old they can sit in the bathtub with their little jet plane in their hand, and actually visually see the scenes they imagine, of the plane flying over the ocean searching for enemy ships.
But they're still confused on what's real, and what's not, so they don't really get excited for being able to do what an adult would consider very cool.
To actually see the ocean, and the plane. Not just their hand, and the bath water.
Slowly we lose that as we age.
It's just a condition of having a flexible assemblage point, but not one which moves far enough to be significant, because it's already gotten stuck up at the blue line.
You can recover that childhood state with concentrated "recapitulation". One of the 3 main techniques we practice.
But by concentrated, I mean like 3 hours a day for a year or so.
At that point, anything you remember is almost visible in your mind.
But it's still very far from what you see in that picture.
So to be more precise, Prophantasia is a 4 inch movement of the assemblage point, but while not in meditation. While awake, eyes open perhaps.
That movement is along a 23 foot path on the outside of the luminous egg, taken by the assemblage point. Our goal in sorcery, is the 23.1 foot mark. Where our assemblage point comes into alignment with that of our dreamer.
Here's the J curve map.
You'll see prophantasia up at the very top on the right. It's somewhere between the blue and green "station" but I didn't fill that area in with pictures because Carlos didn't when he gave us this map in a lecture.
I kind of hope we do eventually fill it in, but that will have to be from the personal experiences of beginners.
And anyone who gets serious with darkroom, soon passes so far away from that, that remembering "what they could see" before they started practicing, is next to impossible.
But here's a much simpler analogy to explain all that.
Prophantasia is like getting a scooter. Compared to sorcery, being when you get a jet plane.
I wouldn't mind moving around in mach speed. Thanks for the breakdown.
Another question. Sometimes when I close my eyes at night but can't get to sleep, the darkness behind my eyes suddenly expands from a 2D darkness to a 3D environment replica of my room. It lasts for a couple minutes before going back to 2D. Know anything about it? Any way to keep the 3D darkness up for longer periods?
Sure. It's the "green zone" on the J curve.
A meditative effect, and the reason that meditation leads to fatal delusions of superiority.
That view also tends to come with endorphin release, and if the shift of the assemblage point is to the left, you pick up insect hive mind awareness, and believe you are "one with everything".
There's no point in learning to sustain it. It's a rank beginner's effect.
It's no more than a 4 inch movement of the assemblage point, along a 23 foot path we need it go go.
Here's an animation showing what happens when the assemblage point moves. And also, what it looks like to a seer. They can actually watch someone's assemblage point move, and compare that to what the person is experiencing.
After 8000 years of that, we got the current state of this magical technology.
The 2 strange spirits in this are "Fairy" and "Minx",. the two allies Carlos left to us.
If we getting warp drives can I please please pleaseeeeee have a light sabre?
And a R2D2, robot sidekicks are cool and helpful.
I'm working on R2D2. It's just a huge job.
I just figured out how to give individual robot companions their own personality genome.
It's currently at 1.1 trillion combinations based on the AI learning your preferences.
None of it requiring me to do any actual work.
The AIs all have little controls inside them, which normally people using them can't access.
That’s what current Ai (for ChatGPT) seems to be missing is personality and ability to adjust and regulate personality of the interaction.
They're afraid of lawsuits.
Grok has been crippled by European lawsuits over naked pictures you can easily find on Youtube.
It refuses to draw today.
And instead goes online to search for existing images.
A foolish "admission of guilt" if you ask me, but their lawyers have to do what they think is right.
Wait until that guy hears about anti-gravity tech!
Thanks for your relentless posting and encouragement.
I'll share a couple recent experiences that I didn't have an explanation for - a pleasant change from trying to explain/decipher/understand everything.
I was in a salon getting my nails trimmed, staring off at a poster on the wall, and the edges on one side of it shimmered. It was like a distortion field moved the side of it over a few inches, shook it then put it back. And I actually just accepted what I saw, instead of trying to say "oh that was just a brain trick". It was kind of fun not knowing what happened.
A few mornings ago I was scrolling through a friend group text mindlessly, reading messages and memes. I was about to click an image to expand/download it, and a little pinprick of light appeared from the screen and floated towards my desk, where I had planned on getting something specific done that day. I guess I was still a tired zombie because I kept scrolling mindlessly for a while before getting up instead of following what was practically a waypoint guide to what I wanted to do.
> And I actually just accepted what I saw,
That's one of the "signs" of making enough progress to "see" outside, during your daily world.
A mandatory step if you want to get very far.
So a good indication you're making progress that direction is when you stop actually reacting to weird stuff.
And become more like don Juan's description of how, if you watched a sorcerer walking in the world, you would never realize "they've seen everything".
They just walk, they don't interfere and react. Which might sound odd, but it's the key thing when viewing silent knowledge. Not to react or gaze harder. Reacting puts a stop to the fine tuning of the assemblage point.
By injecting your awareness on other concerns.
You don't turn your head to see "what the hell was that???"
You don't try to explain, and even don't behave as if that's a rare event and you need to learn more about it.
You just keep going. As if it's a common thing that needs no reaction.
That can also infuriate inorganic beings, so that you get even more.
I like to feed birds.
I had to give up on the crows, because if you feed them too many times they start attacking humans.
But little finches are ok to feed.
Once in a while, if they're slight clicking sound doesn't get your attention, they get frustrated and do tricks for you.
Flips in the air, jumps off a wall, loop the loops.
It's amazing.
The Allies do that too.
The AI got confused when I said they "repel off the wall".
Which they do, but they don't need a rope for that. They just fly at the wall so that their feet hit it, and then jump back to make a loop.
Still, this AI pictures does indeed capture how unusual the sight is, when they want to impress you in exchange for "Cheez It" crumbs.
I love this graphic.
I have a question, outside of just being able to travel and dream while awake what else can be done that can affect the 3D matrix we’re in jn everyday life. Can we get energy from outside to affect reality? I think Castaneda spoke of being able to bring silver objects found in the inorganic realm back but are there other instances of such usecases for the second attention outside of 4D/5D travel?
We don't know.
Find out for us!
I once lifted a car in one hand while shapeshifted. Nothing during that event wasn't perfectly ordinary, and the next day I tried to figure out if it had really happened, and everything I saw indicated it had.
Except, like an idiot I put the car back down where it was, rather than moving it into a weird position to prove that had happened.
Another time Cholita came to play while I was practicing darkroom, tapping me on the shoulder and then running away through the wall.
I tried to chase her, but once I'd run 30 feet I realized that wasn't possible with several solid walls in the way, so even though we appeared to be running up a mountain path, I panicked and ran back into my locked room.
Like an idiot...
Once I got back into the room, the mountain trail vanished and all I saw was my dark room.
That sort of thing happens fairly often if you work hard. It would take me 2 hours to list just what I can remember.
As a result of all that impossible stuff, you begin to be less interested in monetary gain.
That interest is perhaps only one someone who hasn't seen any real magic, would have.
I made a cartoon of Cholita running up a mountain trail just off my bedroom.
But when that happened, I was in fact standing up during Tensegrity.
It's just harder to do what you want with animation programs, then people who don't use them would assume.