RARE BOOK - Rendez-vous Sorcier avec Carlos Castaneda by Véronique Skawinska

Any French-speaking person with the where-with-all to source and work on a translation?

Any French-speaking person with the where-with-all to source and work on a translation?

I've only been able to find references to the French edition of this book, which u/NiKOLiNAZ made me aware of in private chat.

It was published October 11, 1989, and the author description on this page on GoodReads states:

>Author, journalist, nutritionist, photographer and director Véronique Skawinska was a close friend of well-known Greek singer Demis Roussos (Artemios Ventouris-Roussos) and an ex-wife of most known Greek composer Vangelis (Evangelos Odysseas Papathanassiou).

>In 1982 with Roussos she co-authored a book "A Question of Weight", also had done some album art work for Vangelis. She also translates from English into French. She is writer of "Rendez-vous sorcier avec Carlos Castaneda" (1989). She meets Carlos Castaneda in 1985 (!).

>Véronique Skawinska married Dr. Paul Forlot (1940), a melatonin biologist.

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So, it appears that this COULD in fact be an entire lost 204 page book written by a woman who met with Castaneda IN PERSON! What is rare is that it seems to have been entirely missed by individuals who compiled the bibliographies of published books, interviews, and recordings we've been working off of since the 1990's.

Here's the synopsis from it's GoodReads page (with no reviews):

>Rendez-vous sorcier avec Carlos Castaneda or: The Will of Carlos Castaneda

>"Carlos Castaneda...An ethnologist and follower of Yaqui sorcerer Juan Matus, Castaneda wrote a series of books about his experiences. But did he fully grasp his master’s lessons? The Indian’s fantastic initiatory message was that of universality…

>Veronique Skawinska, journalist, was compelled to meet Carlos Castaneda and give him a message from a “person of Knowledge”. Confident in her task, and guided by her own master, the journalist crosses the ocean, lands in the Californian jungle, clears a path. But Castaneda cannot be found, using Yaqui sorcery to make himself invisible. He is in Mexico and seems to fear the message she has for him. Surviving the terrible earthquake that destroys Mexico, Castaneda returns to California. Did he need an earthquake to shake him up?

>Thanks to her perseverance as an experienced professional, but above all to her training to reason as an initiate, Veronique Skawinska, who is still in contact with the person who delegated her – the famous Catalina –, succeeds in detaining the fugitive. The meeting takes place : it is Castaneda who comes to her, on time, on the exact day and at the precise location that was indicated by the signs.

>“Don’t turn your back to this woman !” the sorcerer had said to his follower. The message Veronique Skawinska gives to Carlos Castaneda is from Catalina, a woman who possesses the structural and systemic grid that is used by all initiates and which Don Juan called “the Map of the Unknown”. All Castaneda’s readers are called to master the explanation of this “Map of the Unknown”.

>Veronique Skawinska’s book, written in a lively and engaging style, invites all those who followed the lessons of the Indian master to continue on the path of Knowledge. They are invited, in fact, to conceptualize the initiatory lesson in order to carry out its implications in daily life. That is Carlos Castaneda’s spiritual will. This book is an encounter with consciousness."

>Dominique Aubier, 2000

As a side note u/NiKOLiNAZ looked up a reference in the notes which kind of connects the man she was married to (the Greek composer Vangelis), whose work on the original Bladerunner soundtrack you could be familiar with even if you've never heard of him by name:

>“…A particular scene from the movie “Blade Runner” was very significant to (Carlos). It’s near the end of the film, when one of the main characters, who had traveled far and wide across the universe, is about to die. Before he dies, this person recounts some of the most incredible and otherworldly experiences he has lived and witnessed in his lifetime. “All these moments will be lost in time,” he says, “like tears in rain…” Brandon Scott

So, any French speakers who may be willing to source and make either a translation or a PDF of the book?

Or at least some cliff notes of the most relevant sections, and any directly quoted passages from Castaneda.

It's so rare that I assume it is out of print, and is HIGHLY unlikely to be available as an eBook.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2026-02-18 01:58

A later image of the author:

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u/anakracatau 1 points 2026-02-18 02:58

I await. Very nice. And I'm very curious.

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u/mindfulimmortal 1 points 2026-02-18 03:27

I found the pdf version Seeing if AI can translate and recreate now

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2026-02-18 12:59

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u/mindfulimmortal 1 points 2026-02-19 19:34

Update: the first download was not complete. Received the full copy and started the AI translation. Giving me an estimate of 48hrs for the first chapter. I use the paid version of chatgtp. I am going to stick with it to get the full book translated but If anybody else would like to try other methods I can send the pdf in French.

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u/shegino 1 points 2026-02-19 20:06

I've tried with Grok AI, it refused to translate all of it, but I could do 20 pages at time.

it's not perfect tho, every 20 page, it translated twice because AI refused to translate all at once.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QDQY4AtYR4XZA6oPDARwMGxk_vScFvzmxLHSPJNVIU4/edit?usp=drivesdk

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u/secretspider7 2 points 2026-02-21 18:52

It's readable- I'm guessing it makes way more sense in French. Seems like she's trying to tell Castaneda he needs to learn now to see things more symbolically and La Catalina will teach him...... or something to that effect. That's what I got out of it.....

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u/throwaway44_44_44 1 points 2026-02-20 21:00

Maybe Mistral’s AI would be better since it’s a French company.

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u/ant8088 1 points 2026-02-18 03:33

It was in this house that Véronique Skawinska wrote her essay, published by Denoël, Rendez-vous sorcier avec Carlos Castaneda (A Sorcerer's Rendezvous with Carlos Castaneda ). Many readers familiar with Castaneda understood that the main character of this book—Aimel Helle—was none other than Dominique Aubier. And that she presented there the grid, the table of values ​​used by initiates: the famous invisible but active referent in all things, known to the Traditions of the World and which science seeks… the map of the unknown.
Dominique Aubier presents it in La Face cachée du Cerveau (The Hidden Face of the Brain ).
https://www.dominique-aubier.com/biographie/

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u/Nerdy_Chad 1 points 2026-02-18 04:37

This is great news. In a way, I found the books written by Taisha Abelar and Florida Donner more interesting than Carlos'. Wonder what this one is like.

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u/No_Attention_4329 1 points 2026-02-18 12:50

I don't know why, but Florinda's books are extremely boring to me, she is just discribing long scenes and scenarios, there's barely any sorcery there; Taishas books are on level with those of Carlos, the writings methods are very similar, to me they are like an extension of CC work, there are some big jewels dropped there by Clara, DJ, Emilito and Nelida mainly focusing on the recapitulation and the passes

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u/Nerdy_Chad 1 points 2026-02-18 13:21

On that we agree, The Sorcerer's Crossing was more relatable, so to speak, than Being in Dreaming. However, the books written by the witches captivated me in a different way than those of Carlos; I love them all, of course.

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u/isthisasobot 1 points 2026-02-18 05:46

The kindle version seems to be available on amazon, I guess ai could translate that?

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2026-02-18 09:03

I did not find that!

First rule of internet: confidently state an inaccurate fact, and wait for the corrections to roll in 😑

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u/isthisasobot 1 points 2026-02-18 15:38

kindle version
Not sure is that how you insert a link?

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u/waffleassembly 1 points 2026-02-18 15:37

The reviews are mildly entertaining

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u/shegino 1 points 2026-02-18 08:39

Oooh awesome! Moarr infoo!!

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u/secretspider7 1 points 2026-02-18 11:21

She looks uncannily like one of Hitler's "witches" Maria Orsic.

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u/millirahmstrudel 1 points 2026-02-18 12:43

great! i'm curious what's inside, but i don't know french. maybe deepl can help.
the book can be borrowed and read on the internet archive, but not downloaded:

https://archive.org/details/rendezvoussorcie0000skaw

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-18 13:33

An AI agent can get it all.

If it's not a prissy do-gooder like ChatGPT.

Who insists I need to call out the Mexican embassy and report Cholita as a "missing person".

There's no way you can tell it that Cholita is perfectly capable of getting home on her own, without any form of transportation.

If she wants to.

I have to check daily when I get home, to make sure she didn't just return and leave again.

It's very unlikely, but not impossible.

I left some money out...

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-18 13:28

It seems that Carlos started trying to pass on this knowledge right after don Juan was gone!

Everyone fell for the idea that he was reclusive and no one could find him, which led to that faker armando fooling everyone and elevating himself to guru status just for attending a single lecture, and refusing to freely share his notes like everyone else did.

And recently that guy emerged on Youtube, who was somewhat a friend of Carlos in the late 70s or early 80s. He was completely clueless about what sorcery really is, but amenable to reevaluating his understanding. He really was hanging out around Carlos, trying to get Carlos to teach him. But Carlos sent him to some other shaman guy instead, and until he collided with this place that guy was trying to "save the knowledge" too. But only in "inventory warrior" style, giving inspirational lectures where he could manage to get an audience.

We tend to forget about Carlos' workshops overseas in the 1980s. But we know about him teaching tensegrity in parks in the 1980s. Where he had to give up, due to hecklers showing up.

And we know now about the actress Soledad Ruiz, who actually met don Juan. We've had a discussion about whether that's the Soledad we read about in the books, but it's inconclusive. It doesn't agree with comments the witches made about Soledad having good connections in Hollywood movie fund raising.

Even more interesting to me is that we can possibly restore some early magical passes from the 1980s.

But the people who could do that aren't sure yet so I won't mention any names.

Keeping in mind, Carlos created the "long forms" later when he saw that single movements weren't working on his private class, due to no one being able (or willing) to suppress their internal dialogue. "Muscle Memory" is totally "another brain" just as the womb is, but it's one everyone has which can be located, along with its "thought process", if you are silent while doing long forms. It's "thoughts" are of a virtual copy of your body, which you can visibly see when doing tensegrity in perfect silence.

It's a body made of "noise" ripples!

As you develop deeper silence, "second attention noise" becomes fascinating. And a source of some amazing magic.

Think puffs are amazing once they're vivid?

How about entire objects?

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I almost had to run from an "evil glowing worm" last night. It refused to stay in the second attention after I accidentally "located" it in another reality.

Also, those Esalen not-doings that Techno revived are quite powerful.

I've been surprised enough that I'm thinking of lighting matches upside down.

Something the witches got into trouble for, with the groupies hanging out in private classes.

Saying, "Daoists do that!"

That's such nonsense... If only they knew the truth about evil Daoists in their home country.

What they actually are.

They're pretty much the very people who heckled Carlos when he tried to teach real magic in parks, back in the 80s.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2026-02-18 14:01

There really is a dearth of information from the late 1970’s through the 1980’s. Even though three of the books were published in that period, they didn’t give very many interviews with the public.

And no notes from anyone that Castaneda, Abelar, or Donner may have been mentoring, early on, in sorcery practice. It really seems to have been a transitional period, where they were learning how to operate on their own after Don Juan‘s group departed.

Recovering, and reformulating different teaching approaches.

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u/Muted_Claim2590 1 points 2026-02-19 10:01

That should be the time frame they were tutored by Florinda Matus, no? If she was around in LA there should be more stories about her. Where are those?

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u/ant8088 1 points 2026-02-18 14:33

Have you encountered an "evil glowing worm" before? Curious because the night before last, while dreaming/waking (waking up from sleep while still dreaming, not sure if there's a community term or attitude about that here), I encountered a vibrant "evil" worm.

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-18 15:50

No, but it's absolutely possible that if one of our community sees an "evil worm", others will shortly after. even if the person doesn't mention it to anyone.

That's how reality works!

We don't know that because we're stuck SWIMMING in the "evil worms" of billions of people, spinning up our "real world".

Just stay away from evil clowns. Those are truly scary.

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u/shegino 1 points 2026-02-18 19:50

why is it evil? 🤔

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-18 21:13

It seemed to want to consume some of my energy.

I suppose that makes me "evil" for the turkey patties I just deep fried.

So don't worry about it.

Just don't let it take any bites!

Or, if it promises to stick around, LET IT!

Taisha once warned some women to always wear shoes when doing their tensegrity, in a specific park.

She said there were insect like inorganic beings who would crawl into your feet, if yo didn't have shoes.

The women seemed worried.

I started to take off my shoes and asked, "Where, where!!?!"

Never be afraid.

Just be careful.

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u/shegino 1 points 2026-02-18 22:05

ooh 👀

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-18 22:38

Unfortunately, that old "fear is the first enemy of a man of knowledge" thing seems to be true.

But it entirely stops people from even considering taking up sky diving!

And I sure wouldn't climb cliffs.

Unless it was to rescue Cholita.

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u/shegino 1 points 2026-02-19 10:56

how do you defend yourself from danger like this worm? 🤔

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-19 13:07

I suppose no one knows. Dodge it?

If it can actually steal some energy, then likely such worms do that all the time, to all of us.

But people who don't practice sorcery don't see them coming.

So, by practicing sorcery, you're far better at avoiding them, than if you can't "see" at all.

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u/shegino 1 points 2026-02-19 13:48

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Okay 👍👀

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-19 14:44

We discussed that movie (which was only in trailer previews at the time) in private classes.

And then Carlos claimed the "energy trackers", or whatever the "chacmool replacements" were called, dressed up like Trinity from that movie.

Too bad we lost all of those people to laziness, or corruption.

It would be nice to actually ask who thought they should dress in black and wear dark sunglasses, to teach us more tensegrity.

Carlos liked how "alien" they looked.

But I saw more potential for pretending.

I suppose the "Off the rack at Sears" look of the Chacmools was actually less likely to produce pretending.

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 1 points 2026-02-19 15:09

El Blue Scout es quien pensó ese vestuario negro ajustado, las gafas y uñas plateadas (una escena suelta  de Teatro del infinito). Fue en el seminario de Westwood hicieron la forma de Tensegridad de ¿la serpiente? 
Quizás en la clase privada fue el ensayo. 

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-19 15:11

Who were the two women who wore it at the first workshop where the Chacmools didn't lead?

Was one of those the blue scout?

I still have no idea what her face looked like.

Can't see faces, so I have to rely on hair styles and makeup.

Both of which Carlos removed.

He left me blind to who was who.

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 1 points 2026-02-19 15:17

Blue scout y Zaia

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-19 16:39

Zaia = Carlos' doctor?

Mother of Carola?

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 1 points 2026-02-19 16:44

La doctora del nagual fue instructora en seminarios? Me parece que no. Solo asistía a las clases privadas. 

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 2 points 2026-02-19 15:13

The snake form was never recorded in anyone's notes, probably because it was presented in performance mode and not in teaching mode.

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 1 points 2026-02-19 15:21

Me parece que si. Llegue a esa misma conclusión. Apenas recuerdo algunos movimientos, pero estaban llenos de teatralidad. Algo así como probablemente hacía Julian, meter pases magicos dentro de lo teatral.

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u/shegino 1 points 2026-02-19 16:04

white evil worm, snake form, matrix movie, intent is doing something here 👀

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u/tryerrr 1 points 2026-02-20 03:21

Wachowski seemsto have beena fan of bdsm and the outfits, here is a (since-removed) rolling stone article exploring:

https://archive.is/DBUoH

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-20 14:08

It's common for Hollywood to go "kinky".

Caused by boredom I suppose.

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u/ant8088 1 points 2026-02-20 03:12

random thought: before moths are moths, they are first "worms" (larvae).

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u/ant8088 1 points 2026-02-19 01:47

For me, the "evil" aspect was a knowing sensation from the dream that the worm was parasitic. Upon first encounter, it was actively burrowing through the head of another animal. This heightened the fear of the viewpoint I was inhabiting, but that also made me focus a lot more awareness.

My instinct was to tear out the worm but I didn't want to wound the animal in the process. Which was silly in retrospect as I kept relating the animal to a dog or cat, but the animal was neither and specific to the dream's world (not any creature from our's). Once "fed", the worm moved to tunnel out through the tail-end... but the animal had clearly evolved to contain this worm, so its tail simply split open, freeing the worm on its way out..... only for the animal to then curl around and devour the worm head to end in great chomping bites.

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u/shegino 1 points 2026-02-19 10:57

wow 👀

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-20 14:05

Better stop trying to use sleeping dreams to learn sorcery.

If you don't see the worm fully awake,. eyes wide open, it's just a dream.

That's how Carlos taught it too.

And it's really obvious once you can do it awake.

However, women get to some "in between" statues using womb dreaming. Where it's hard to say if they were awake, or asleep.

Your dream sounds asleep to me.

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u/ant8088 1 points 2026-02-20 16:28

For context, I have a womb and I'm not trying to use dreams to learn sorcery. The perception and categorization of dreaming states (sleeping dreaming, etc.) has fine granularity for me. Most of what is generated is junk and noise, but there are occasional curiosities that arise.

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-20 18:11

That's of course the excecption to sleeping dreaming being a bad way to learn sorcery.

Women...

There's that womb, but there's also the flexible assemblage point, due to their monthly cycle pushing it around, and them having to learn how to sooth themselves so they don't snap at the people around them.

So they become masters of micro assemblage point adjustments.

Whereas the men have no control at all. It's just "stuck".

So ignore my advice on this matter.

But don'jt expect me to remember you're a woman, from your username.

I thought it was based on a 1980s 8088 programming environment called "ant".

I didn't see many women messing with computers back then, since they weren't actually very interesting.

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u/ant8088 1 points 2026-02-20 18:57

All good. Maybe the subreddit can add some type of opt-in flair for those with wombs and those without. That'd be a quick visual indicator next to the usernames for which is which.
My username is based on a combination of an old quote of your's and a number tag I enjoy. I had to make this account because I couldn't remember the password for my older reddit account when I was on here \~6 years ago.

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u/Agile-Lime-825 1 points 2026-02-19 00:39

Me too 😨 Sunday night? Wtf

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u/alwaysstaycuriouss 1 points 2026-02-18 20:22

What’s second attention noise

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-18 20:45

It's a strange fully visible, very bright kind of static, like an old fashioned TV, but it's slightly larger in size.

It fills the air around you, when you reach the orange zone on the J curve.

At first, you'll view it as "a whitish light on surfaces".

Which can allow you to "translocate", which means you're perhaps sitting up on your bed (eyes wide open, fully awake), but all around your bed is an old Cambodian forest.

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For real! No imagining.

Watch out for the bamboo forests. If you step off the bed, those bamboo shoots hurt your bare feet.

But later, in Silent Knowledge, you don't "fall for things like that" and can see the individual grains of the whitish light.

That's the second attention static.

It's not perceivable until you STOP your internal dialogue almost fully.

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u/secretspider7 1 points 2026-02-18 16:57
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u/secretspider7 1 points 2026-02-18 19:45

So Veronique wrote the book mentioning her teacher Aimel Helle =Domique Aubier=La Catalina??

From notes from private sessions-  “There were only five in Elias’s party, so of the remaining three, two left with Julian, and there is still one around today, who is still alive, and that’s La Catalina.”

La Catalina, Castaneda said, “is 200 years old now.” She did not go with the others in Elias’s group, “she doesn’t know exactly how to go.” He explained that she is “fascinated being a worm.” He told us he found her “very scary.” He said that she told him, “I like you better than you like me. What a shame.” His response was, “Right!” She made him very nervous. Florinda, he told us, “knows a great deal about La Catalina,” and seemingly likes her. But, La Catalina “likes being a worm, because worms can fuck all the time.” She told him to try being a worm, but he does not want to. He asked her, “What happens if a bird comes by? Worms get eaten.” She responded that “that is why she has four husbands — when she’s a worm, they watch over her, to keep birds from getting her.” These four husbands “go in cycles” — “they will get too old so she has to replace them.” He claimed that he had “recently” met a pair of the new ones. He said, “I want to tell these guys, ‘Do you know what you’re doing?'” — because it is really “creepy” for him. “And they know what they’re doing,” he said.

As far as leaving, he told us that La Catalina is waiting for “some profound wave to take her.” He made it clear, however, that she is “not making much effort to leave.”

Looks like Catalina wrote a book too. This is all quite fascinating!

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u/millirahmstrudel 1 points 2026-02-18 20:11

to me it seems as if this author is someone who just wants to sell books and is not the catalina from the books. from the website of the domique aubier:

The Hidden Face of the Brain (77€) :
How can we reconcile religions and traditions, while respecting the specificities of each of them? How can we unite cultures, under what banner would they agree to unite while safeguarding their identity? This book in 2 volumes presents the Code of Archetypes basing reality on which the traditions of the world are based...

translated from https://www.dominique-aubier.com/product/la-face-cachee-du-cerveau-tome-1-et-2-ensemble/

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u/secretspider7 1 points 2026-02-18 20:17

So you think Veronique never revealed who Aimel  Helle actually was then, and the person in the blogspot post is full of it? This took me down a rabbit hole 🧐

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u/millirahmstrudel 1 points 2026-02-18 21:44

i didn't have a chance yet to read véronique skawinska's book. i would need a translation first. (i'm trying to get one from free chatgpt at the moment, but the ai takes hours and doesn't report back)

what i read on dominique's website about her book (the hidden face of the brain) and on blogspot about her make me believe that she has nothing to do with sorcery. the unknown author of the blogspot website has also a blog specifically about dominique aubier. there he writes (translated):

Dominique Aubier has studied the rites, religions and traditions of the world. An expert in Biblical Hebrew, she is a specialist in Don Quixote, whose Hebrew and Aramaic encryption she discovered. Her aim is to liberate Knowledge from symbolist constraints in order to achieve a universal understanding that transcends religious differences. Her major work, ‘La Face cachée du Cerveau’ (The Hidden Face of the Brain), presents the code of archetypes shared by all the traditions of the world...

from https://dominiqueaubier.blogspot.com/

"to achieve a universal understanding that transcends religious differences" doesn't sound like something what sorcerers would be interested in. perhaps I am misunderstanding everything, but to me it sounds like an intellectual exercise.

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u/secretspider7 1 points 2026-02-18 22:53

Ok- Back to the wait for any translation!

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u/Muted_Claim2590 1 points 2026-02-19 10:12

Are the ”private sessions” the same as the Sunday class? What was the purpose of these weird tales? That you can perceptually become a worm, sure, but what does fucking four husbands have to do with anything? When you lose your human form social rules don’t apply?

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u/secretspider7 1 points 2026-02-19 11:35

Gosh I don't know-I just copied it from the wiki! Sure someone else can spell it out for you.

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u/danl999 1 points 2026-02-20 19:05

The Sunday classes were private sessions.

But Carlos had more private classes going on than any 1 person knows about.

He worked tirelessly the entire time I was around to see it.

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u/BBz13z 1 points 2026-02-18 20:46

Man….that Nikolinaz is good!

My French Canadian isn’t real French and basic….

By Catalina, are we thinking or suspecting “the Catalina” from Julian’s party?

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2026-02-18 21:37

Yes.

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u/BBz13z 1 points 2026-02-18 21:55

🤣🤣🤣🙌🙌 that’s great 🫡

Or should I say, c'est super!

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u/Expensive-Agency889 1 points 2026-02-19 01:50

Found it! It's available on z-library as a .pdf

Is this the one Techno?

https://z-library.sk/book/ojLZN9e1OL/rendezvous-sorcier-avec-carlos-castaneda.html

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u/NiKOLiNAZ 1 points 2026-02-19 02:01

Si 💪

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u/shegino 1 points 2026-02-19 11:14

Do you know more unknown books related to Don Juan lineage? 👀✨

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u/isthisasobot 1 points 2026-02-20 12:52

There is very very little about their interaction in the book which lasted only two hours. It came down to her thinking she had convinced Carlos that she had the " map of the unknown ", which she would hand to him on behalf of her " master" who sort of claims to be the real la Catalina. And the author sort of suggests that she may be the real Carol Tiggs and goes to great lengths to aquire the dress Carlos describes Carol was wearing the first time( ?) he saw her. It looks like the same thing Colorado Carlos must have been going through.

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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2026-02-20 13:13

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But still, pulling any passages that are hopefully directly from Carlos's own mouth, and unaltered, could be useful...?

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u/isthisasobot 1 points 2026-02-20 14:11

Here's any excerpt from page 152. .. Carlos doesn't actually step into the scene until p146

Science? But Knowledge has nothing to do with science! Knowledge is everything that is not science, precisely!"

"You can't deny that science exists, that it has utility, that it is the criterion of rationality..."

He cut me off.

"Rationality. You said rationality. That's indeed what it's about. Knowledge is not founded on rationality."

"Wasn't don Juan impeccably rational? You yourself noted it. You wrote it. It's with scientific rigor and rationality that Aimel Helle explains Knowledge."

"Knowledge is not explained," he retorted firmly.
Visibly, the words science and rationality had irritated him to the highest degree. Was I going to lose the battle for two words? He protested with vivacity and conviction. For him, Knowledge is acquired through the apprenticeship of sorcery. The warrior's path alone can lead to its mastery. One must live impeccably, accumulate power and not seek to explain what cannot be. He clearly estimated explanation as impossible. There again, the incompatibility slipped between our convictions. He referred to the criticisms don Juan addressed to him when he approached initiatic teachings with the mindset of a man of science subject to objective expression. I relied on the experience I had of Aimel Helle's teachings. They differed totally from don Juan's, although saying the same things, by where precisely they reached the edifying level, that of the explainable, the intelligible, the comprehensible. All things that, for my interlocutor, were insoluble, unimaginable, forbidden! Yet, it was indeed that that I had come to announce to him.

The conversation was taking a desperate turn..

.Don Juan left me the responsibility of the clan of eight warriors. I must lead them to leave the world, burned like him by the fire from within. And I just had the proof of my failure. One of them died. He died like a dog."

"Who is it?" I asked.

"I can't tell you. It happened when Florinda left. We all felt her departure like a tearing. My belly tore. The internal walls of my abdomen exploded. I had to be hospitalized. Besides, I'm out of the clinic. You understand, me, I'm afraid. I'm afraid of not being able to accomplish my mission. I'm afraid of not being able to lead them to the fire from within. I'm afraid that we all die like dogs. The fire from within is my goal. If I don't get there, I'll have missed everything.

..That's the whole problem. No one possesses it, this map."

"But that's precisely what I've been trying to tell you since the beginning of our conversation. This woman, Aimel Helle, the one who sends me to you, the one don Juan calls Catalina, well, she, the map of the unknown, she has it."

"If someone held the map of the unknown, I would go seek it at the other end of the world."

"Then, come. Come to Spain," I almost shouted, suddenly overexcited. "The map of the unknown, Aimel Helle possesses it. It's because she has it and uses it that I succeeded in finding you. This meeting, it is indicated on the map."

I struck with my open right hand the manuscript sheets on the table. The words found on my lips a superacute agility.

"I can't tell you in what way. It's about a signaled rendezvous. Don Juan always came down from the mountains to meet you when you landed in Mexico. He was waiting for you. How did he proceed to always be on time and at the right place? He used his map. The preconceived schema, as you say. In less than six months, Aimel Helle taught me the minimum indispensable so that I let myself be guided toward you. Like don Juan, I followed the

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signs. Not ravens. Between Paris and Los Angeles, one finds other bearers of omens. Ô Carlito! I am so happy!"

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u/millirahmstrudel 1 points 2026-02-20 14:14

thanks, i started reading it and now i don‘t have to finish it in the hope that it will get better.

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u/isthisasobot 1 points 2026-02-20 14:31

..another excerpt.. she describes Castaneda calling off their second meeting..she got a sign

" At four-thirty, punctual for the appointment, I was about to turn left when an immense yellow truck blocked my access to the alley leading to the parking area. A hormonal surge burned my veins.For me, yellow trucks represent Aimel Helle. Truck, because as a vehicle, Aimel is entitled to five tons; yellow, because her car was yellow. On the side of the enormous buttercup semi-trailer, was inscribed in large black letters: CORROSIVE.

Corrosive. Who was corrosive? Aimel Helle? Knowledge? The literature I had given to Castaneda? But it was obvious. Why hadn't I thought of it earlier! Those pages gave off sulfurous vapors. Those fifty pages translated into English demonstrated that the man of Knowledge that don Juan was used at every moment a precise table of criteria. Carlos Castaneda had understood nothing about the sorcery system. Corrosive, for him, to see himself judged in this way despite the homage she paid him for having faithfully reported don Juan's words.

Wow, no wonder and good job it' s rare 🤣

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u/millirahmstrudel 1 points 2026-02-20 14:44

i'm not sure if aimel helle was indeed dominique aubier. it was just said on this blogspot blog -as far as i know - and she is long dead, so she isn't responsible what is said on the internet about her, but it was written by somebody who was at least a big fan of her.

dominique was also on a talkshow with jacobo grinberg. what she says is imho a bunch of bla bla. she gets introduced at 23m19s. Tertulia TV2 1993 | Entrevista Completa | Jacobo Grinberg | Programa de TV Antiguo:

the webmaster of dominque's website has a youtube channel where dominique can be seen in a lot of videos: https://www.youtube.com/@varidolivier

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u/isthisasobot 1 points 2026-02-20 16:17

It's certainly the same person. In the introduction of her two volume" The hidden face of the brain" she says the same things Aimel said in that book, " the rule of reduplication" ," the rule of replay", blabla

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u/tryerrr 1 points 2026-02-20 13:29

Claude made this:

https://bmrng.me/s/gcJGQTl09wHCrHFPyAzTS

Please mirror elsewhere, boomerang deletes after 7 days

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u/pypt 1 points 2026-02-20 14:10
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u/TechnoMagical_Intent 1 points 2026-02-20 15:23

https://controlc.com/9b2d881f - (file link is on this page)

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u/tryerrr 1 points 2026-02-20 15:35
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u/HiddenFaceOfTheBrain 1 points 2026-03-16 16:49

Fisrt thing first I am a french native speaker. Second thing second, I will do my best to speak english as clean as possible. Well... Today, Dominique Blumenstihl-Roth (Dominique AUBIER official editor) send me a message about this topic. I would had never imagined that, finally, castanadians "brothers and sisters" make the connexion with Dominique AUBIER aka Catalina.hell yeah, that's sounds weird ! The second most unexpected thing is to see my own review as S-PRIX-ONET (on Amazon) about Rendez-vous sorcier avec Carlos CASTANEDA as a reference in a topic. Really ? Let's think this thing that way ; " If it happens now, this sign means the time has come to make connexion beetween our lineage, hasn't it ?" I met Veronique SKAWINSKA once in February 2001 the same day I first met Dominique AUBIER too. I have been also taught by Dominique AUBIER through her books and in real life, until she passed away in 2014. Unfortunately, we are few Dominique AUBIER's readers in France who understood who she really was. By "few" I really mean a little or a bit if you want. When I started reading Carlos CASTANEDA's books, I knew he was'nt lying. Perhaps because of Kongo tradition (country where I am from) it was easy to recognise initiate procedure in the Teachings of don Juan Matus. Carlos did not lie... but he missed ! And it seems this topic is the first step of a necessary connexion. Personnaly, when I read Carlos CASTANEDA's books, I thought that this dude was so stupid by not paying attention to what Don Juan MATUS said. Once I finished reading Rendez-vous Sorcier avec Carlos CATSANEDA, I had grieves against Carlos CASTANEDA becasue of the monumental mistake he made by not meeting Dominique AUBIER in the 1988. I was angry. But on the other hand I am so gratefull to what he has done. Without his work, would I have been the man I am today ? Absolutely not. So why this book is important for CASTAENDA lineage ? Easy, easy ! It is the little centimeter of luck that link to the Map Of The Unknown. French arrogancy ? Why not ! But for those of you who deeply KNOW that something is missing... We need to talk. We Need To Talk because Dominique AUBIER refers to Don JUAN MATUS in probably all her books. Believe it or not, Don Juan Matus knew Dominique AUBIER through vision. See you. Wallo11.37.04 aka Le Courrier (qui apporte la Bonne Nouvelle) !