The Spoken Word's Effect

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Using tensegrity while stopping the internal dialogue, your assemblage point will move around to the other side of your body, where a "whitish light can be seen on surfaces".

It's the "orange zone" on that J curve Carlos described to us in private classes.

Just past that, you reach Silent Knowledge. Where videos in the air materialize, or text can be read off any disturbances.

So what happens to that "whitish light"?

Can you look for it to come back?

Actually that's a trick question. I'll leave you to figure out what the trick is. It's not deception of course. Our magic is REAL.

It's more about the "can you look for" part? What happens when you "look for something" and your assemblage point is in alignment with that of your dreamer?

I was looking for "the emanations" last night in a long running attempt to figure out how many different ways there are to view them.

I saw people walking along a street in a huge city, vaguely forming as a visible scene across the emanations I could perceive.

So I said "Hey, nice to see you!"

Carlos advised us to talk to the allies if they show up, and I've extended it include talking to anything at all that shows up. Beings or even buildings!

And the emanations rippled from my talking, disturbing the faint image of people walking in a city.

Since Cholita isn't home I decided to test out talking loudly to the emanations, and discovered that they do in fact react to that.

So the spoken word does in fact have power just as don Juan said it did, long ago back in the time of the old seers.

Unfortunately, if you're sitting in a dark room talking to the air, other people will tend to frown on that type of behavior.

And it won't help when you explain, "But if you could only SEE what I get to see!"

Our social structure is deliberately designed to ban any real magic, and steer you towards the pretend kind that religion offers.

So that if you see anything at all that's been banned by the social order, the immediate assumption is that you must be "broken".

There's clearly something wrong with you, if magic becomes real in your life

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u/danl999 12 points 2026-03-24 15:59

A tip for more advanced practitioners: Don't expect that the emanations behave like smoke! I'm afraid that's all I can draw. Instead, think of the emanation as multidimensional smoke, so that a ripple in the emanations is actually a ripple in reality, including both time and space. And "what you see" depends on where in multidimensional space and time your awareness ends up noticing the expanding disturbance in the multiverse.

A lot of factors seem to conspire to make magic hard to find,. which is why you MUST stick to "The Intent of the Sorcerers of ancient Mexico."

If you try to mix in other systems and you aren't a powerful witch like Cholita, you'll fail to learn anything significant.

So don't be thinking you'll be a "Tai Chi" seer.

No...

You won't.

that's not to say that Chinese martial arts can't be "fixed".

But if you intend to do that, you have to stick with something you can't lie to yourself about.

Such as "light body techniques".

Those are real. But it's unlikely the Chinese could ever do those...

So if you want to fix kungfu, make sure you're really leaping across tree tops, so you can't lie to yourself about it.

When Cholita first moved in I got her to agree to practice this technique, if I bought her a large fountain to use as a landing spot.

But over time her madness got worse, so we never got to try it while both of us were awake.

I had to do it with her double, when I was awake practicing darkroom techniques, and she showed up to visit.

So I suppose, what we ended up doing ws just as good as this, except it would have been nice if she was awake too.

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u/Academic_Mechanic810 6 points 2026-03-24 18:15

Dan what is this misty fog I keep seeing in my practice? If I move enough in darkroom doing tensegrity, I am suddenly surrounded by something that looks exactly like a whitish mist that moves and blows as if wind is going through it. Just as real mist, some little "clouds" are more white and visible than the other, combined with mist, vapors is how I can describe it. I looks similar to the image I just attached just not as thick, but with movement, always movement. I also can see it during day when I practice gazing, all of a sudden my patio gets that mist...

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u/danl999 5 points 2026-03-24 18:38

Looks like a variety of the "whitish light on surfaces".

That stuff can even allow you to "translocate".

Which would mean, you'd see those trees too, on one of your walls.

But there's no way to know for sure what you're seeing.

We haven't had enough people yet to have categories for things Carlos didn't get around to describing.

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u/Academic_Mechanic810 3 points 2026-03-24 18:59

Well if I concentrate enough on it, and try to gaze into it I do see somethings trying to form, also if I concentrate in it looks like is charged up with small flickering particles of sort... I was very curious because I only see it in certain situations when I either push hard to stop the internal dialogue, or when I am about to get my period... Maybe I should focus on this sight more to see what happens. Thank you :)

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 6 points 2026-03-24 19:04

The mist can do things like "pop". After gazing at the mist in daylight for an extended period (usually takes hours set aside), I've had everything that I could see turn golden, for example.

Different things can happen from it, for sure, even in daylight.

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u/Academic_Mechanic810 2 points 2026-03-24 19:34

Thats amazing! Thank you! I never gazed for that long at it, but it seems I definitely should!

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u/danl999 3 points 2026-03-24 19:53

If you were male I'd tell you that concentrating on something other than silence, makes sorcery impossible.

However, with women I just don't know...

I'm pretty sure Cholita could concentrate on anything she wants, and produce magic from it.

But the men have to be more "empty".

Essentially you have to fall asleep, but remain awake.

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u/Emergency-Total-4851 3 points 2026-03-24 20:02

Yes true!

"I've told you already what the Nagual told me about attention," she said. "We hold the images of the world with our attention. A male sorcerer is very difficult to train because his attention is always closed, focused on something. A female, on the other hand, is always open because most of the time she is not focusing her attention on anything. Especially during her menstrual period. The Nagual told me and then showed me that during that time I could actually let my attention go from the images of the world. If I don't focus my attention on the world, the world collapses."

Techno's post on it is very good:

https://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/comments/1bxemje/inner_silence_is_sleepwalking/

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u/danl999 2 points 2026-03-24 20:16

As time goes by, I suppose we'll know much more about such things!

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u/Academic_Mechanic810 1 points 2026-03-25 02:34

Don't you guys have to gaze and concentrate on the sights of the second attention in order to let the assemblage point drift and use such sights to replace the inner dialogue?

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u/danl999 5 points 2026-03-25 12:05

You focus with the eyes slightly crossed when gazing, so that you don't focus on any specific detail.

Or you focus on the "shine of your eyes" if you're advanced.

But anytime you focus on something specific, you're making the emanations associated with that in your own mind, glow,. and that's like putting up a barrier to what's really there.

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u/BBz13z 1 points 2026-03-25 13:09

It’s interesting you mentioned this, my eyes lightly cross when I gaze at darkness; post tensegrity. When I have more than seconds of control over internal dialogue.

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u/Dry-Shallot-1756 1 points 2026-03-25 05:02

Аor several years I have been seeing the forest through fog or even without fog (both in the dark and in the light). In one of Carlos' books, I read how Don Juan told him that Carlos always sees the forest because it's more convenient for him and his mind. And indeed, no matter which spot I create (dark on light or light on dark), the natural landscape appears there first of all. Later, I tried to detach myself from the forest, almost forbade myself to see the forest, and then the first videos began to appear. I don't know if it's a coincidence or if something has really changed or accumulated and manifested itself..

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u/Juann2323 9 points 2026-03-25 00:15

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The instructions on this site are fine.

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u/BBz13z 2 points 2026-03-25 13:03

At first, I was confused, now….I see what you did there…lol

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u/Juann2323 4 points 2026-03-25 13:24

The pic is too dark!

It looked so bright after darkrooming...

I opened a portal and brought an IOB.

Awake, in a phantom copy of my house.

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u/BBz13z 3 points 2026-03-25 13:33

I had to raise my iPhone brightness to get a look.

Was digging your reply, funny and true.

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u/danl999 4 points 2026-03-25 16:58

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u/Juann2323 5 points 2026-03-25 18:56

Or this one...

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u/Dry-Shallot-1756 1 points 2026-03-25 04:55

For some reason, the characters in my videos never respond to my greetings, they just keep doing what they were doing. Maybe I should do this greeting not with my voice, but somehow mentally?

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u/danl999 5 points 2026-03-25 12:35

Do it daily without fail That's the nature of this path. There's no "attainments" as there are in fake magical systems and pseudo religions that want your money.

It's like juggling. Juggling just once by tossing the balls up just once and catching them, isn't very entertaining.

And no, mentally greeting them is very ineffective.

If they're real beings off in another reality, they can't read your mind!

You're thinking they're all just made by you.

I like to feed little birds, but if they never acknowledge that they're pleased I eventually stop.

They can't just be grateful in their mind.

Fortunately little birds love to show off!

I used to feed crows, but then they started attaching humans.

Second reason is that if the beings are some of the Allies, they need your energy to materialize.

If you don't give them any, they'll leave. They can't afford the waste.

Mentally thanking them is next to no energetic effort.

I sure hope these aren't hypnogogic images from marijuana.

Those won't get you anywhere.

If they could, there's 2 religions that are 100 years old and thought they could learn magic that way.

But never learned any at all.

If you can't speak to your videos due to not having control over your life, try gently blowing at them.

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u/Dry-Shallot-1756 1 points 2026-03-25 12:55

Fortunately (or maybe not), I don't use psychotropic substances.

It's also interesting that I don't know any of them and have never seen them in my life. I couldn't imagine it, they appear out of nowhere and are busy with something all the time.

I'll try calling out to them with my voice, let's see the difference.

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u/danl999 4 points 2026-03-25 15:58

Watch the facial expressions. Sometimes that's the only recognition you'll get. Although typically they turn to face you.

And come closer when you get lucky.

Also, this practice is something which "stores intent".

Meaning that as you practice it, you get better at it.

But please start out with a realistic understanding of how sorcery is practiced.

Everything else out there gives you a bad understanding.

You do sorcery DAILY.

And as for seeing videos or beings going by, you'll reach beginner's stage when you can do that 10 times a night, guaranteed.

It's not like Yogis, where doing something just once means you get to write your own "Autobiography of wonderful ME" book and cash in.

And there's absolutely no such thing as "enlightenment".

The very idea of that is obscene!

Compare Asian martial arts, to Brazilian.

The Brazilian works, the asian stuff is just pretending.

Their greatest "masters" get beaten in 30 seconds. There's plenty of YouTube videos showing that.

Although, Carlos was fond of the idea and structure of Asian martial arts.

And I got curious about it before Carlos was teaching classes, and studied at 15 martial arts studios. Some for decades.

It does seem like it ought to work the same way Tensegrity does, to produce knowledge of real magic.

It just never does... Likely because no one practices seriously.

That internal dialogue has to be stopped, or there's no possibility of real magic.

Of any kind we've found.

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u/BBz13z 1 points 2026-03-25 13:00

Does talking to a dirty dumpster count? Seems like there’s an Oscar who wants me to notice when I’m turning off internal dialogue at one of my sights.

You’re forcing inner silence and then thinking and talking while in second attention. I’ve been trying this myself, but it doesn’t really seem like thinking it’s more like…………

Projecting or placing a thought? I dunno? I don’t have enough of anything for long enough to know anything. Maybe just hunches?

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u/danl999 4 points 2026-03-25 16:00

You can't afford much thinking, or your assemblage point is pulled back.

But talking is ok.

I talk to everything. Carlos had Amy talking to her cleaning supplies.

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u/BBz13z 1 points 2026-03-25 16:39

I can’t afford to do much thinking. lol, I’m not very good at it. That’s been the story of my life.

Real simple sorcery trick to get around thinking. Get married. Women love to think for men.

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u/the-mad-prophet 3 points 2026-03-25 22:33

This is a very meaningful and timely post. Thank you.

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u/Juann2323 1 points 2026-03-26 22:43

This guy makes a post and we all end up flying...

There's people that disagree with the behaviour and can't get alone.

They probably never picked up the magical rewards.

Otherwise you wouldn't care about anything else.

Let's keep this good eye Vivian.