I started an informal recapitulation session yesterday morning because one of my cats had decided to curl up on me as I was laying down, so I had the impulse to try recapping since his presence was making me sleepy and want to nap otherwise.
The session wasn’t starting out particularly notable or seemingly productive, but eventually as I began to see purple/magenta blobs appearing in my vision as I gazed with my eyes closed, the blobs morphed and amassed, filling up my vision, and changing from purple to a black-speckled blue or deep violet.
Odd shapes made of what looked like glowing light or elements of the blob concentrated in the center-ish of my view began to form, and as I gazed at them, they seemed to animate more and my vision kept changing from being very dark/black to very light yellow/red/orange/purple/blue, all changing quickly (I was laying in a well-lit room at the time).
As I focused on the shapes, the large mass seemed to speak to me and encourage me to focus on it, and keep moving toward my gaze on it and away from my thoughts and mental chatter.
It felt like displacing something or myself away from “where” I was viewing the whole scene into being concentrated from looking towards the back right of a spherical shape.
As I focused increasingly on the details of the morphing shapes while paying attention to what “its” instructions were, I began to see the shapes morphing into scenes as “it” explained things about itself like its origins, what it was, our relationship, and details about the intent of the sorcerers of ancient Mexico.
The shape(s) would multiply, expand, or concentrate into different scenes that were unfamiliar, or from scenes throughout my life, especially my childhood.
The “shape(s)/mass” instructed me to open my eyes while continuing to gaze at it, and I saw my living room was covered in the dark purple fog I had been gazing at with my eyes closed.
Very close to what I saw, but appeared to be coming down more from above
It told me to begin gazing at the whole of my field of vision, without focusing on any one part, and the fog seemed to transform into a white-ish transparent lace of random images and animations still covering my entire field of view.
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It told me to continue focusing on the web as a whole and not to fixate my gaze on any one image or scene.
I walked into my bathroom and sat in the dark while still gazing, and started to see my surrounds start filling with other details of scenes enlarged, like I was starting to end up suddenly in different places, switching rapidly at least twice.
Very close to what I saw, but the places\/rooms\/settings that kept appearing had more details filling them out, making my bathroom briefly disappear
I think I was a mix of too excited and overwhelmed, because I then found myself walking into the upstairs kitchen and speaking with my dad, and my thoughts and mental chatter started pulling me back to focus on them again, coinciding with no longer focusing on the white-ish imagery and instead on the everyday details of the house.
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>began to see purple/magenta blobs appearing in my vision as I gazed with my eyes closed,
The "energy body" does indeed swarm us even if we are laying down, and nearly going to sleep.
I was playing with this just last night, as a result of Cholita "gifting" me from Mexico as a reward. I was shocked how well she managed to do that, to the point that I got a bit paranoid and tried to figure out if her double was here, or I was down there in Mexico.
Nope.
Her double was right there, just a few feet from me. She hasn't done that in years!
And my energy body was so bright, that the dark energy witches have actually got pixelated. It was "mixing" as if it didn't have enough strength to dominate the purple.
If you do this the normal darkroom way, which includes tensegrity, then you're standing up with your eyes open and can look down and see the energy body, once it fully forms.
But it'll also begin to swarm and you can direct it elsewhere in the room.
You were sort of doing that, but it got directed towards your physical body. Perhaps coming from around 6 feet away on all sides.
When you're laying down it can still do those cool "darkroom" things, but the problem is that it'll also swarm "inward" towards the sleeping dreaming realm.
And drag your tonal off into sleeping dreams, perhaps not even lucid ones.
Instead of only swarming around in the physical realm to encourage your double to form as a replica of your tonal, and interact in the real world.
So both are equally cool, but when you do it the way you did you aren't increasing the ability of your double to exist as an independent entity in the "real world".
Someone who practiced "darkroom" only laying down, would likely not get very far.
>As I focused increasingly on the details of the morphing shapes while paying attention to what “its” instructions were, I began to see the shapes morphing into scenes as “it” explained things about itself like its origins
You went off into sleeping dreaming realms and a scout possibly came to take advantage of your loss of full rationality.
I'm plagued nearly all night by scouts! A hazard of reaching the purple zone.
>I walked into my bathroom and sat in the dark while still gazing,
So did you go fully off into a sleeping dream, but of your living space, or you actually got up and walked around?
There's a huge difference.
And you can also "not know".
That commonly happens.
For instance, when Cholita was paying me back last night and I noticed that her usual dark energy had gotten pixelated (it was tiny bits thoroughly dominated by the purple clouds), I also got a visit from my own double which sat on the edge of the bed and was clearly annoyed by me not getting up to practice.
Obviously a very odd thing, and I have no idea how that got mixed into the whole situation.
Which is a good example of why it's easier to keep track of things, if you're standing up and walking around in your physical body.
I figured my energy body was swarming me, and I know at some point I thought about the post you made the other day about casting it out in order to “remote see”, but I can’t remember what became of that, I think I became entranced by the objects that appeared and started speaking.
I definitely opened my eyes and walked around the room, walked upstairs, to the bathroom, then to the kitchen to talk to my dad, I never lost ”my place” or blanked out, nor did I lay down to rest the rest of the day. Opening my eyes felt very odd though, sort of like they felt very heavy, but I was being “coached” the whole time through it all.
I don’t try to practice sleeping dreaming, I’ve never been very interested in it. Partly why I hadn’t liked doing recapitulation much in the past, because I don’t like having to close my eyes. Usually nothing happens or I fall asleep if I do that. I like gazing, but I like tensegrity and darkroom gazing better! That’s the only way I’ve seen that web before that I remember, but had forgotten, and phantom rooms/teleporting (I’m not sure how to differentiate them).
There's a "hidden topic" in the books, where the 4th gate is discussed.
Easy to overlook...
It's basically "reverse dreaming" where you go to sleep, but your double comes out into the real world, to act on your behalf.
Carlos used to do that with Carol Tiggs, starting from different locations.
There's also "dual dreaming" where your dreamer is in the room with you while you are doing dreaming awake. So you're fully awake, if not sleep walking (although it seems to be easier if you are still), and your dreamer comes along and literally sits on the bed near you.
That's one reason I believe don Genaro and don Juan were pulling Carlos' leg with the warnings not to look at your double.
Trying to keep Carlos feeling afraid and threatened, the same way Carlos used nakedness as a last ditch attempt to get the inner circle women's doubles to come around during those "running man" passes.
Still...
If you see your double, don't go out of your way to "prove" don Juan was just joking.
Don't try to look directly into its eyes.
It's also pretty good at avoiding eye contact, or else recapitulation series would be too dangerous to be taught.
The first part builds your energy body.
For some reason, this feels silly to ask, but…
Do you think then that I fell asleep with my eyes closed, and never really woke up, even if I opened my eyes, walked around, saw what I saw, and never felt like I had actually fallen asleep and was convinced I was awake the whole time?
I was certain I was seeing the wall of fog that then became locations or rooms that overtook my bathroom, or I moved into, briefly.
Other than in puff/blotch/fog form and clinging blue ball form, I don’t believe I’ve seen my double appear except for in darkroom + tensegrity sessions as a human-shaped purple figure standing next to me. Though I have felt it move from “out of my hand” before during recapitulation and closed-eye gazing (a sort of chair silence practice, I suppose?). It must need more work to get formed better.
No way for me to know if you got up in your double and thought you were awake.
But that does indeed happen if you seriously practice sorcery.
It's also not a clear cut boundary. In order to walk through a solid wall during darkroom practice, which you can certainly do, at some point it MUST be that you switched over to your dream body.
Except, you can't detect when that happened!
I suppose some illustrations from the books is appropriate here, so that people don't think I'm making up new stuff.
In Tales of Power, don Juan gave Carlos a shove in the ticket office and he ended up a mile away at a coin market, on the previous sunday or the next sunday.
He not only teleported in space, but also in time.
I really doubt he did that in his physical body! Your physical matter gets a vote of its own.
But he couldn't tell the difference, and in fact he actually walked back from next sunday a mile away, to Alameda park on the correct day of the week.
With no obvious transition back.
Then there's Zuleica warning Taisha that she might find herself on the other end of the house, not knowing how she got there.
I've done that a few times.
It feels like your real physical body, and everything seems fine.
And you either walk back to where you came from, or you later wake up there, if you didn't deliberately try to return.
There's also Carlos up on the top of the cliff, jumping off.
Actually, he was still up on top of the cliff, even when he jumped. You can tell that if you read the story carefully.
Don Genaro was teasing his physical body about shitting his pants while his double was leaping to the bottom of a cliff, with don Juan making sure his physical body didn't join in.
But we can't dismiss that story as "just a dream" either, because when don Juan's group finally left, Carlos jumped by himself. And instead of dying, he woke up in Los Angeles a minimum of 2 days journey from that cliff. In just a couple of hours is my guess.
Might even have gone from Mexico City region, to Los Angeles, in 10 minutes. But just didn't wake up for a few hours.
The relationship between your double, and your tonal body, becomes fuzzy the longer you practice.
The info and insights Dan drops when you progressing, is motivating and motivating push for others as well.
That's true, it all definitely motivates and inspires me, too! Everyone who is hooking onto the intent of the sorcerers of ancient Mexico, helping each other perpetuate it further
I once was asleep somewhere and another person I knew saw someone that looked awfully like me with their dogs. Their dogs usually never bark but when they “saw me” from afar the dogs started barking very crazily and running in that person’s direction. I know this because this person described to me what happened, how they “saw someone that looked EXACTLY like me”, but in a sort of dismissive way. As if it was just someone that looked identical to me, and even had the same gait, height, looks, clothing style, etc.
The ironic part is that the way this happened is they saw this doppleganger at a distance, so it was impossible for them to get close enough, while also still being able to visually see all those descriptors.
This was like at a week after the interruption at the height of my practice.
I wonder if it was my double or not. Other similar things happened when I was practicing a lot, but always in ways that made it so non-sorcerors would “doubt what they say”. It’s very weird. As if it was always calculated by my double to still make those involve think “it was just a coincidence”.
What is that "it". Is it the voice of seeing? the double? An IoB? Something else?
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The inorganic being that appeared initially as the morphing shapes
Wow! Awesome 👏🏼
Thanks! It was. I gotta keep up that practice, practice, practice!
Yes! Practice and practice and push! It’s all so…..incredible. I dunno, there’s no words, but the motivation and intend are real and usable.
I’m really liking how you put this experience together in this post - it’s amazing seeing the puff(s) transition or overlap into this reality, if that’s how it can be explained? I’ve only had smaller water melon sized blobs overlap into “this” awareness. I’m also prob saying it all wrong. lol
Tell me, do you See colors or vibrations emanating from people as to their intentions. Sometimes I can laugh at this, sometimes I want to help. I realize I Am able to change only myself and I defile myself trying to stop others from de-filing themselves. So I change. So genuine in a love for life, I shift, whenever I must, to survive the Who the What I Am
Not really, idk 🤷♀️ People sure are… something!
Agreed though, we really can only hope to change ourselves. Definitely better for us to focus on what we can do through our actions, to nurture and grow our own awareness, by working hard to get as silent as we can, and immersing ourselves in the practices shared in this sub.