This is from a conversation in private chat. Draw from it what you like, but notice the mechanics of how to visit God.
And from my own experiences, and what Carlos said about left shifts versus right shifts, I'd say that heaven is located relatively in the same assemblage point position range, as God.
It's left shifts!
Of course, when you meet God it's NOT in meditation. Meditation and prayer meetings with religious concepts are just obsessive delusions caused by dozing off for an instant, and then misrepresenting what happened.
It's what don Juan called a "chance seer", and he equates people who exaggerate those kinds of experiences and tell them to other people, with criminals.
It might sound a bit extreme, but once you can do this on demand and realize what's really going on, it does indeed seem like an assault on mankind, to pretend to have knowledge you don't have, and to mislead others so that they don't have any real chance to ever learn what's really going on.
Can you really visit Heaven and God?
Yes!
I have, and it works just as Carlos wrote about.
If you get to visit God, remember what Taisha said. Don't forget to ask for something.
The typical reaction will be to run for your life...
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Is the religious God the mold of man?
Complex question.
God is a bundle of emanations lit up by people praying to that entity.
That's what makes it a "mold of man".
It's only that which humans prayed to, lit up with the energy of awareness of billions of people from the past.
Doesn't matter which religious point of view is praying to God. They all add up to make a big messy bundle of glowing emanations you can activate. And the "look" you perceive, will vary from person to person.
Probably coming out closer to the look from whatever religion you follow.
In fact, we couldn't activate any reality reliably if someone hadn't already perceived it. The emanations with no latent awareness at all, are very difficult to perceive in a coherent fashion. At any fixed assemblage point, there's still a multitude of alternate views of the emanations surrounding that point. We can never perceive "all" of a given position.
Frankly, there's likely a "Gilligan's Island" out there which you can also visit.
Because of so many people watching that show.
Having a second awareness (from another person) when practicing sorcery produces amazing effects! You read about it in the books where the "little sisters" attacked Carlos, or did a demo of a technique they practiced for running around the room in a circle, and things got way out of hand. So that even they were surprised at the level of resulting magic, and thought it was Carlos causing that.
He thought it was just normal witch doings among the apprentices.
Carlos was even trying to teach all of us, by combining the awareness of thousands of beginners, using workshops.
There's a tiny indication that would have worked eventually, but he died too soon.
Maybe Jadey can finish it.
But as for religions, those are created to steal money from people.
Over thousands of years those fake religions might have had some "saint" who dozed off, had a dream that was caused by over reading their "sacred" texts too much, and who passed that dream of God or Heaven, on to followers in the manner of a "Chance Seer".
John of Patmos for example, loved to hype up his bible obsessed dreams.
But there's no truth in it. And no existence worth considering.
I'd go for Gilligan's Island given a choice. As long as they still had their bikinis.
Even Mrs. Howell was hot when she was young.
She partly invented the "ditsy dame" meme of 1940s movies.
Thank you Dan. When you say Jadey, who are you referring to?
There are 3 active remaining private students of Carlos Castaneda.
Me, Cholita, and Jadey.
Who is around here somewhere.
Jadey is the most famous because she was photographed outside Dance Home, talking to Carlos.
She leads free tensegrity classes. And does some workshops in Argentina.
It's the only real tensegrity being taught.
Cleargreen, Aerin, and Miles are gleefully teaching fake tensegrity. Partly because they forgot the real kind but mostly because they make up new ones, thinking that will lure more people to take their fake workshops.
They pick some "cool" topic from the books and pretend they have a Tensegrity form for that.
If you want Tensegrity, those first 3 DVDs and Jadey, are pretty much your only choice.
Even on YouTube, nearly all of the Tensegrity is wrong or outright fake.
ohhhhh my God this whole time I thought Cholita was an IOB lmfao. Whoops. Had to search for more context.
Hey Dan, apologies if this is untoward, but could you DM me?
No, I've learned over 25 years of time that DMing always ends very badly.
Also, if you want to discuss a topic, it's important to share with others in here so they can learn from it.
I believe you're thinking of "wise teachers" who take your money, and so are happy to chat privately with new customers.
We all work for free, and one thing we dislike more than anything else is someone who has motives other than actually learning sorcery.
Everything you need to do that, is already in here.
Fair enough, I get your point. Normally I'd do just that; In this case, I'm not so much looking for wise-teachers (in some sense I gave that up long ago) so much as someone simply with (proven) experience. It's a fairly personal matter with some element of 'danger' and I was just hoping you could fill some gaps for me. I wouldn't say I need guidance in learning sorcery per se, I know the path and practices to take and recognize I'm mostly lazy and distracted; this was more to do with an isolated incident affecting my family and whether there's a specific approach I should take. Thanks for reading, though!
So tell us what the problem is, and we can discuss it!
It's possible there's also more private places to chat with other, such as on discord. I'm not familiar with all the chat channels there.
this almost killed me 🤣
She posts videos of the magical passes: https://www.youtube.com/@SorceryPasses
Makes me think of franchises such as Star Wars (to continue the ever present parallels) where there are tons of variations thru fan-fics and such to the point where there are folks living the "star wars universe" in their heads constantly.
Maybe in another thousand years the star wars emanation bundle will be brighter than the god bundle lol
In the latest Star Wars, Ahsoka can pick up an object and view its past.
Just like La Gorda picked up that old seer power object, and viewed how that old seer was eaten alive by other old seers.
So we get to do that too!
If the mold of man can’t under any circumstances help us, intervene in our lives, punish or reward us in any way, what’s the point of asking it for something?
Maybe just because it's amazing to converse with a supernatural entity that's really right there in front of you, instead of only doing that in some meditation or ritual induced delusional mini-dream?
We visit God fully awake!
Certainly it can tell you things you couldn't figure out, even if you can't get it to intervene on your behalf.
Knowing stuff doesn't require getting involved with changing things.