Hello community, i fount this community like over 6yrs ago and was keen on understanding don juans teachings which i find not only mind wrecking profound but also something i refuse to forget o let go. after attempting to understand multiple perspective axis in the studies of science, realms of religion and many other things that I found connecting to each other and obsessively fixating on them the experience and lessons learned I believe helped in understanding more about what carlos castanedas books truly offered. Like I haven’t read all the books but i touched all the books and I don’t think i wanted to read all the books bc like i said it has an unforgettable effect for some people.
so like I dedicated to studies on everything and found the pagan much like the monotheism does NOT offer any solutions at all in to any results concerning bypassing my condition of thinking and solving for some things, like I remember the the many titles and personas are actually fixated on money and simply living and surviving together not results! and literally the occult community is plagued with some of the same repeating themes that are very damaging, ironically this has been mentioned here many times I remember in the past.
Like there are really helpful accurate stuff I learned along the way in different fields but alot of things unfortunately are not based on actual repeatable results which is a problem because it’s like someone writing or teaching something from the mood of excitement and attention seeking, i find it very good to also learn from the bad examples because bad examples also help avoid any obstacle in the future so they are also useful.
so my thoughts on this community is about the genius of the j curve and like i feel dumbfounded nit to have figured this out earlier but they secrets of the j curve are like woow, do people in this community actually know the secrets of the j curve omg, now i am not a fan of the tensegrity but it’s ok I suppose i have my own whatever.
not a fan of recapitulation but ok I believe it was explained a bit not so great by carlos castaneda and the community doesn’t do good job neither…
then again don juan mentioned to never to tell people how we arrive at somethings except sharing to someone what they should care to know (with no process involved) I considered it deeply and it’s disturbingly true that to reveal a revelation of power is a disturbing discovery often needed to be worked around from and not directly approached … i take that as silent knowledge right
there j curve revealed by smoke and darkroom is like ultimate genius, absolutely magnificent and haven’t truly understood it or respected it until recent. Like it’s the ONLY WAY, emphasis on ONLY and the puffs are genius thanks a great deal….
Tbh with you I don’t do any kind of hours because i am really on my own directional course … but I believe it probably is wise to put those hours in… it’s truly incredible really and there’s like no way i will probably ever talk about this again at all, after assessing every single material out there and forming our own ideas to the nature of
I would like to as like what comes next in the community because the internal silence, yeah and those other matters of recap and magical passes are really very beginner knowledge with their intermediate state being a innovative approach unlike the j curve which is actually from the perspective of secret is capturing everything and going past
It’s exactly what I wanted thankkks greatly mr dan and everyone else. I will not forget!!
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You can't mix outside stuff with sorcery.
It won't work.
It's like mixing getting high and playing video games while also watching TV and snacking on junk food, with some super hard work you need to get around to doing which no one else will thank you for, and which you might even get criticized for doing.
While having your friends who also like to get high, come over to visit constantly.
You'll never get around to doing the super hard work.
Except, it's 10 times worse than that analogy.
Maybe, toss in having a little 24 hour a day "born again" church in your backyard.
Then sorcery might only be 8 times harder than all that.
Also, Silent Knowledge is nothing like you're imagining. And if you have a tendency to make up success when there isn't any, you can make that 8 times harder be more like 100 times harder.
It's only 8 times harder, if you are honest with yourself so that you have an actual chance to learn.
Perhaps you should consider actually reading ALL of the books?
Here's the "Silent Knowledge" publication Carlos made just before he died, to give us instructions in what to do once we have no leaders.
To sum it up, we need to learn to move our assemblage point into alignment with that of our energy body. And then find new leadership from the alternate reality streams that produces.
https://archive.org/details/carlos-castaneda-silent-knowledge-cleargreen-1996/mode/2up
Thanks, not mixing anything at all. rather trying out different things like outfit, i did what don juan suggested. when read first three books because I didn’t think the three women were authentic and more like a corruption to ancient knowledge… then i change my mind because they were alot better than the stuff out there anyways….
I don’t even know what sorcery is anymore or any other thing…all I wanted was to get rid of my problems, end up find larger and larger problems. By the time problems i solved then we view something nasty and unpleasant
If i were to open the books and read them, besides whatbi already remember then it won’t take long when i get to those parts where there’s a dialogue between the two that will absolutely have me thinking about it for weeks or years, it’s a situation of sensitivity and being to open to connect. So after getting what i get i avoid… already i am not stable
Sounds like schizophrenia to me.
That's far more common than people know. Perhaps 1 in 5.
Cholita is severely schizophrenic.
And yet, she's the most powerful witch among us.
So being schizophrenic isn't a problem for learning sorcery.
As long as you actually practice it with the goal of real magic instead of just philosophy.
I also read and reread that thanks appreciate the community and carlos castaneda for his work… and don juan is definitely real from my findings, and not at all like critics claim. In fact i was thinking about things from the angle that carlos castanedas were to make up the whole stories and it doesn’t fit or isn’t consistent if he was to fabricate the stories with later parts of the books.
unfortunately the case here isn’t necessarily about carlos castaneda or don juan and is entirely on its own subject. For example i noticed when sorcerers avoid directly teaching someone is a strategy to avoid impressions and rather working around situation to allow a child to form their own perception… in the case of a no leader thing i am not sure how that will work out for you all but wishing you all the best
I noticed These things can not be directly tackled or imparted from a person to another person… like how active side of infinity mentioned it would just be the language or model of the imparter… reason why directly teaching won’t work
I don’t really understand how people can even share their experiences… makes no sense to do so, i honestly can only think about just having fun in a community like this avoiding anything serious because sorcery is unpleasant
Well thanks alot
I was in private classes with Carlos for years.
We're doing in here, what he was doing in those, and what he wrote we need to do, once he's gone.
Also, this subreddit is the only one on all of Reddit, with any real magic going on.
Sharing experiences insures people are working towards the goal of having the real thing, instead of doing what you suggested it would cause.
Socializing.
You need to look more honestly at things, instead of looking for what you prefer to find.
Not looking honestly might cost you a decade or two during which you could have actually been learning the real thing.
nothing new is needed, don’t mind me, socializing isn’t my thing neither and i am very bad at it, i run into occasions when i anger people unintentionally… respect to the people running this place, there are other subs also i guess reddit has many… I believe they also share similar ideas just not a full package, i counted about 9 so far
and more… i used to read them was wondering any of it, with far out ideas from those community 😂 !!
I wanted to ask you about a magic pass i encountered when i was like 16yr old. It was on c-span presentation when i remember it,
it is a cultural presentation of the ancient mayans if i am not mistaken and the person introduced a concept where the mayans believed the human has invisible wires going through the head (from too to bottom then from intersection on the sides, diagonally and so on) and he mentioned that one has to straighten these lines daily because they become like bent out if shape or something
The methods he introduced was to cup the hands and pull away from the head with the positioned hand on opposite ends of where those antennas are situated
I rather not mention my experiences with it but i was looking for that video for a long time now or for any information, even a. I can not locate that… it might be a missing pass and can help you all here. It is a mayan traditional understanding from the presenter who has a large audience at the time sitting down in individual chairs in a white like room with a podium
If you happen to know the name or any related info please share
It's just pretending.
And there's zero real magic in any of the other subreddits. I've been asking people to point me to it for 6 years now, and no one can.
I've likely been tossed out of 8 of those subreddits you mentioned, for daring to explain what real magic looks like.
Perhaps 20,000 people read me asking someone to point to real magic elsewhere, so it's not as if there weren't a lot of eyes on it.
You seem to be pretending your results.
If you really want to learn, you have to stop doing that.
I am not pretending because i am not practicing sorcery, I mentioned that (we do self development only) or caring share results of any kind. But the guys in the other sub reddets can probably learn or avoid idk!
Without inorganic beings community here can not really help new commers… but I still like your efforts.,, theres fakeing going on here as well just not in a large amount any real genuine person can spot
castaneda books also contains errors, like mixing the predator s for the fliers, and don juans later elaboration does not seem like what earlier fon juan would say, when did he become so talkative?… so he wanting us to be a passive kind of animal is something introduced when castaneda began making wrong decisions
another mistake that castanedas made is taking don juans words LIGHTLY, that guy juan (if that his name) is actually a real dark wizard and even necromancer and certain things he mentioned is deeper than what Castaneda explained, so now people think he making it up
I don’t like last book called silent knowledge because it’s like a way to sum things up, But how can these things get summed up ? I take it as being effort to bury the earlier books. But even don juan isn’t really comparable to other materials … the hype about magic and sorcery is actually something created by carlos Castaneda cult
many seers never ascrip magic or sorcery to their insights tradition because that label is packed with negativity from abrahamic religions
Like it is some sort of other thing. I mentioned I don’t follow Carlos Castaneda or practice anything here not even an hour, we follow ourselves and have no interest in grouping up… but i appreciate your community for making things widely available …. Unfortunately it’s not likely anyone actually understands matters about the j curve which actually doesn’t need too much explanation except from inorganic being
If you guys have silent knowledge (with answers) it’s clear on how to make more people learn by introducing new technologies that will allow faster access and so on.., with silent knowledge anything is possible right.
Confusing and contradictory…how can you know all about the books when you haven’t read all the books?
carlos castaneda framed his experiences with don juan from the standpoint of sorcery witchcraft and something fictional simply because at the time in the 60s or 70s certain organizations were destroying occult knowledge after stealing them and incorporating them into their own framework and so on. carlos castanedas excuse for exploration of such a thing wasn’t actually based on medicinal plants or even as he states undertaking the task because of the threat of technological advances
nah it’s actually because of the threat of certain intents erasing certain links, this is evident of how buddhism also attempted to erase siberian tibetian bön, and many other links to the old world.
the "witches" joined up with carlos castaneda because at time women rights and things weren’t actually as respected in those regions, i believe the books such as womens journey and womanhood were there focus of women empowerment… among other things, this is why carlos castaneda often sympathetic for women (this is something felt internally among different social classes)!
carlos castanedas books are coded, and carlos castaneda isn’t actually as dumb as he put himself out to be, he knows alot… he’s wise
if you are reading those books plainly then you most likely won’t understand them, or it may take you along time or won’t understand the deeper meanings within the books or the context for which they were written and preserved by carlos castaneda
They are very gread reqds, certain ones. But you would need comprehensive understanding of variety of perspectives … one problem is many readers stuck in their views think and believe along certain ways thinking maybe ok this is our culture or this is magic or whatever fall into the trap of understanding things from a different angle and make mistakes
the books were written to give the reader an understanding and a practical approach to the depiction of the ancient world not magical fantasy. The "witches" used scientific precision to elaborate on, yeah so all methods work but the problem is it’s more wider than what the carlos castanedas set of science private classes can offer
a person could be doing darkroom or other stuff for along time and simply quit, simply because something firm is missing where as a casual visitor can make tremendous gains…. It’s not about practicing it about yourself breaking the perception you have about certain things and then practicing
I’m not gonna read all this.
Like for example average persons think or believe that they are preserving certain powerful and dangerous insights 😂 when in reality much of the world doesn’t actually care, the reason many people follow certain courses isn’t to find a powerful insight but rather to make improvements. You can give a everyone a super powerful thing and many will dump it in the dumpster … people want money!! not self development and others are stuck in religious hysteria and want whatever they are programmed with NOT RESults
no one cares!! Is something hard for some people here to understand, even if they cared you can mathematically calculate how far they will go throughout their lives… based on their decisions they undertake and the people they choose to be around and still you will find you are super insignificant and your life doesn’t matter whatsoever like you think it does, no one really cares about the way you think
….or this.
It’s simple….
Learn tensegrity and shutting off internal dialogue. Do both together in Darkroom.
Stop writing novels of nonsense. It’s counter intent.
Ok read in future. Thanks for the directions I i will learn tensegrity and avoid counter intents