Hello community. I would be very grateful if someone could explain to me in simple and clear words what this is about, and also, very importantly, what it is not about.
As I understand it, this Reddit is about something like astral travel with open eyes? In other words, visiting and seeing other additional layers of reality? Beings and other planets, and generally additional realities, and also how one integrates this?
And as I understand it, this is not about developing abilities such as reading thoughts, seeing the future, or knowing exactly when something will happen, such as wars, the stock market, catastrophes, and so on. That is not what this is about, right?
So this is not about the so called siddhis?
And no, I do not want to spread Buddhist philosophy here. I am only using these words for myself, simply because it allows me to express it in a way where people can understand exactly what I am asking and what I want to know.
As I understand it, this is not about abilities that influence the reality which we all perceive, right?
All I AM about to type is my own interpretation and beliefs on it. You have to do your own research and construct your model of it. I would suggest you start doing the work, read the entire WIKIhttps://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/introduction/ some posts are clear, others more scattered, but its the best we have.... and practice Darkroom, Inner silence, Tensegrity and Recapitulation daily for at least a few hours; things will begin to make sense slowly.
....if someone could explain to me in simple and clear words what this is about, and also, very importantly, what it is not about.
In short, it is about moving your assemblage point and gathering and storing your personal power. This allows your perception to expand, or, later in some cases perceive other worlds/dimensions/universes entirely.
The core practice here that allows all other things to work, is gathering inner silence througohut the day. If you do nothing else for a few months, do this. It's like what all other spiritual books, youtubers, traditions, pathways, practitioners, monks, etc would call "meditation" but hypercharged to the maximum and you do not get a vaccation from it. It's not just sitting around for a few minutes per day, you have to achieve perfect inner silence, absece of thought during every waking moment of your daily life. Basically, what takes buddhists several lifetimes to achieve you have to do for breakfast to even begin this practice.
Inner silence allows you AP to move.
Wdym what is it not about? 🤔
It is not about pretending, lying to others about your achievements, seeking attention, or bothering others or aruging about anything... at least not much, lol ;)
... basically it isnt about feeding your ego or acting out of self-importance or self-pity. It is not about intelectualizing concepts you learn and read here, it is about applying them and integrating them into the flow of your daily life.
As I understand it, this Reddit is about something like astral travel with open eyes?
I mean honestly, yes, kinda… or rather; Astral Travel is one of the subsets and possible side effects or one of the experiences you will be able to do eventually. Remote viewing, telepathy, contacting your spirit guides/dead ancestors/ soul family / extraterrestrials... astral travel, shifting into parallel versions of yourself, lucid dreaming, manifesting objects, etc… all these are possibilities within dark room, but it is kinda just the beginning.
The issue is that people on this sub and in discord will get slightly irritated about you even using these words or concepts to define these phenomena.
Rather, we use terms such as Inorganic Beings, The Double, Silent Knowledge, etc… to substitute/expand some of these.
Like.. yes, you will literally be able to exit your physical body and float around and people will call that astral travel, but here its just “entering your Double” or something.
Apparently the distinction matters a lot because words carry meaning and with it intent, which is another core concept you have to understand here. We follow a much older intent than other spiritual/New Age practices and it is an ancient technology from shamans/sorcerrers 8000+ years ago. So its a different model of reality and perception even tho admittedly there might be some overlap between things you will be able to do or perceive.
And as I understand it, this is not about developing abilities such as reading thoughts, seeing the future, or knowing exactly when something will happen, such as wars, the stock market, catastrophes, and so on. That is not what this is about, right?
These are all very real potential side-effects many people here have experienced on the journey....
But... It is different for everyone. I cannot read thoughts. Idk if some here could. Probably, idk 🤷I can however sense the intentions behind some people’s actions or get insights into their beliefs and energy when they speak….
Seeing the future? There is no such thing as a future. Some people could sense a few possibilities, I guess. But future isnt static. It is in constant flux; you create your future with your actions thoughts and beliefs and there are many possible futures. Sometimes there is a lot of energy and momentum behind a certain outcome/manifestation and people will then make a prediction about it, and sometimes if the momentum doesnt change that thing will come true.
Regarding predicting the stock market.. It could work in theory I guess, but when you see others things this technology can do you wont care as much about money; the urge to stack up material positions naturally fades away a bit. It's a common pattern here. There is more meaning to life than “having” things.
So all this:
And no, I do not want to spread Buddhist philosophy here. I am only using these words for myself, simply because it allows me to express it in a way where people can understand exactly what I am asking and what I want to know.
Yes, we understand what you mean. But please read the wiki, especially the terminology section first so you can absorb our definitions and concepts and familiarize yourself with the terms, first.
Even though I gave you an updoot, I still have to point out one important thing that remains *unclear* . According to the books and Don Juan, some things are predetermined and set. It seems that intent has its own plan and sometimes makes things happen. Don Juan explicitly referred to such cases with remarks like; “that was his fate” or “it was her destiny”.
ah yes I remember from the books donJ and CC catching some rabbits or something; carlos tried to save one, only for it to fall into another trap a few moments after 🤣
I mean.... I AM in the mood to give you one, but I AM also always a bit reluctant to over-share my personal beliefs and takes on this or that which go outisde the established confines and parameters by which this castaneda's community operates.
So let me preface what I AM about to type with a NOTE that it is my own model of reality, not consistent with CC's teachings... or... not to en entire extend? I honestly do not know them well; if they were ever even clearly defined by carlos or donJ :shrug:
I do not believe time is a straight line with begginings and endings; I think of it as a branching tree of various probable.. well; probilities.
Every major decision you make in life literally (not abstractly) splits the timeline into another fractal. So you have these "parallel" selves experiencing these other realities. These people are you, but in different "futures" so to say... example... So if your parents move to a different city when you are 3, or if girlfriend dumps you at 23 or not, both possibilities exists; one where you had kids with her and one where you are single and alone now.... and your consciousness/soul shifts throught (experiences) both of them, you just remember (or are aware of) only one at a time. They converge at death as you perception of these timelines expands.
Most people think time flows from point A to B and what manifests in between is already somewhat determined. This isnt the case at all.
I think all we really have is The Eternal Now; the moment we are now in. This is where our power lies. We create both the present and the future from this one "now moment."
In this now moment, you are free to do whatever you like, and what you pick as your next "task" or "doing" will directly determine the future you shift yourself to.
Every possible configuration of all possible events already exists ( Some might call this "The Akashic Records" or something) in some non-physical plane of existance; but some of these realities then become "physical" IE; you manifest them into your life.
Now; The thing is, though, that pre-incarnation, your consciousness/soul chooses to set up "themes of exploration" for this physical life.
So then you pick your parents, enviroments, etc; all these factors determine your early beliefs and emotional predispositions which then allows these themes to be explored by your physical self in life. The themes of exploration you've set up for yourself from the spirit/template level (non-physical) reality "must" be lived throught, so the universe/IOBs will guide you to them.
So, in short; before you are born, you design a path for yourself... and it is then loosely defined for your life; but within it, you have complete freedom to experience the HOW of it.
Imaigne it like a corridor you HAVE TO go through (the predetermined themes for your life path). But it is up to you if you will walk, crawl, jump around, run, open doors and go on side-quests, or finish it up quickly during your life(your individual choices).
So... yes I'd say some things might be determined... but most of your life is up to your choice, still.
Well, honestly I was hoping of an answer that would be more in alignment with the teachings of the lineage, even though the available info is quite scarce and extremely vague/incomplete.
Your paradigm seems to be heavily influenced by Buddhism, but I am not sure how do these two teachings work together, as they are utterly opposed when it comes to some topics.
I personally believe that the individual situation changes as the individual becomes more and more developed. If you are just a regular Joe, who is solely preoccupied with worldly, materialistic struggles, then you are cooked basically. On the other hand, if you clean the link to the intent, if you practice recapitulation and analyze yourself, then you might open some doors that were unavailable before.
even though the available info is quite scarce and extremely vague/incomplete.
yeah, I agree... idk if I ever saw them describe this in depth 🤔
Your paradigm seems to be heavily influenced by Buddhism,
Nah, no buddhism; most of this is from Bashar, the channeled extraterrestrial entity... he claims that this is "the structure of existence" and to me it makes sense. I mean... aliens would know, right?
I do not follow nor agree with (much of) buddhism.
but I am not sure how do these two teachings work together
I AM still trying to work this out myself tbh 🤣 So far I think there is a lot of synergy between the two.
I personally believe that the individual situation changes as the individual becomes more and more developed. If you are just a regular Joe, who is solely preoccupied with worldly, materialistic struggles, then you are cooked basically. On the other hand, if you clean the link to the intent, if you practice recapitulation and analyze yourself, then you might open some doors that were unavailable before.
Correct; as you expand your consciousness and perception, you can more easily construct your reality; which includes time. And you have more freedom of where you put your attention and energy.
Honestly, do through the index/wiki. The questions you are asking are laid plain there. Then if you have additional questions, or need clarifications, come back
You'll get many replies from the members here and in all honesty it will feel overwhelming. Just read the first book from Carlos Castaneda, you can finish it in a weekend. If it clicks with you come back.
In general, it is recommended to start with book 3 (Return to Ixtlan) and this makes sense. It’s better to return to books 1 and 2 with a general understanding of what’s what.
It's about perceiving energy as it flows in the universe so that you can attain freedom. You reach that through stalking, dreaming, recapitulation, inner silence, mastering intent, and losing self importance.
Have the time of your life by focusing on your own attention and awareness. Since we’ve been conditioned to do the opposite from childhood, it takes effort to remember how to do this again. Have your own experiences and keep exploring for yourself. Don’t overthink, just do it. As a comparison, you won’t build muscles at the gym just by thinking about the exercises.
From my very own perspective this is a whole philosophy of life that transforms us for the best, in every way possible (from how we behave to what we expect from the world).
This is a complete knowledge path to understand perception and clean all the shit we accumulate through our lifetime.
First a cartoon showing what we really are and how what we perceive changes when your assemblage point moves. No other system moves it further than 8 inches or so, if they don't use drugs the way Yogis often do. But even with the strongest drugs like magic mushrooms, you only move it 4 feet. Sorcerers move it 21 feet!
Is it about siddhis? Siddhis are a fraud, much like Astral Travel, which uses a meditation technique to alter the internal dialogue just a tiny bit, which produces all of the meager "enlightenment" effects.
Not something even worth pursuing as you can easily see from your friends who thought they'd achieve something with meditation, but gave up after a decade or two. Or became one of the leaders trying to make a living selling fake Hindu magic to the naive.
The "magical powers" of the siddhis are a lie, and only happen as part of closed eye dozing off visions, similar to what makes Astral Travel seem to work. We actually do the magic we describe, fully awake with our eyes open.
Instead of using a social group and donations to force people to exaggerate their closed eye pretending into "magic".
No pretending needed with this technology. This cartoon is just a short I made to show how to walk through a solid wall, into another world.
You also get to meet real visible spirits, such as this one previously associated with our member Mad Prophet, which came to visit me and teach how to leap into outer space in my physical body.
If you want to fly, you don't repeat some lame hindu word for "ether". Nor any latin verses.
Instead we look for visible red lines of energy amidst the "emanations" which are the actual source of reality, and grab them. They pull you into the sky, or allow leaping over mountain.
I don't have a video on that flying technique. I couldn't get Cholita to practice it with me, so I've never seen it working. But I did chase Cholita across the power lines outside our home one time, leaping a good 50 feet at a time.
This next video gets to the heart of what this technique is, showing alternate timelines, and how to access them by 3 methods.
There's 600 of those discovered by our "old seers", which you can switch over to if you don't like living here.
But a warning: This is REAL magic. Not the pretend kind, where the instant you can do it, supposedly you have not mastered it and can do it any time.
Our magic is more like getting a hole in one in golf, as a beginner.
Good luck repeating that...
You don't get to repeat things you experience once, again for many years. You get "demonstrations" as you learn, as gifts from infinity, but the ability to repeat any of them on demand is what you have to work hard to achieve.
But don't let that discourage you. If you work hard you get magical gifts as you actually need them, even daily, and trying to stop and learn to repeat specific ones would stop your progress towards more advanced experiences.
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Hello community. I would be very grateful if someone could explain to me in simple and clear words what this is about, and also, very importantly, what it is not about.
As I understand it, this Reddit is about something like astral travel with open eyes? In other words, visiting and seeing other additional layers of reality? Beings and other planets, and generally additional realities, and also how one integrates this?
And as I understand it, this is not about developing abilities such as reading thoughts, seeing the future, or knowing exactly when something will happen, such as wars, the stock market, catastrophes, and so on. That is not what this is about, right?
So this is not about the so called siddhis?
And no, I do not want to spread Buddhist philosophy here. I am only using these words for myself, simply because it allows me to express it in a way where people can understand exactly what I am asking and what I want to know.
As I understand it, this is not about abilities that influence the reality which we all perceive, right?
I have not posted here in a while. I am a very poor practitioner who use to be on the account called glimpee. This is my first time commenting since.
I think you may be approaching this in the wrong way.
Read the posts on darkroom practice, the j curve, and just start practicing. Seeing is believing, or something.
I only comment this because I dont see any other comments pointing a direction and I am attempting to repeat what others have told me.
All I AM about to type is my own interpretation and beliefs on it. You have to do your own research and construct your model of it. I would suggest you start doing the work, read the entire WIKIhttps://www.reddit.com/r/castaneda/wiki/introduction/ some posts are clear, others more scattered, but its the best we have.... and practice Darkroom, Inner silence, Tensegrity and Recapitulation daily for at least a few hours; things will begin to make sense slowly.
In short, it is about moving your assemblage point and gathering and storing your personal power. This allows your perception to expand, or, later in some cases perceive other worlds/dimensions/universes entirely.
The core practice here that allows all other things to work, is gathering inner silence througohut the day. If you do nothing else for a few months, do this. It's like what all other spiritual books, youtubers, traditions, pathways, practitioners, monks, etc would call "meditation" but hypercharged to the maximum and you do not get a vaccation from it. It's not just sitting around for a few minutes per day, you have to achieve perfect inner silence, absece of thought during every waking moment of your daily life. Basically, what takes buddhists several lifetimes to achieve you have to do for breakfast to even begin this practice.
Inner silence allows you AP to move.
Wdym what is it not about? 🤔
It is not about pretending, lying to others about your achievements, seeking attention, or bothering others or aruging about anything... at least not much, lol ;)
... basically it isnt about feeding your ego or acting out of self-importance or self-pity. It is not about intelectualizing concepts you learn and read here, it is about applying them and integrating them into the flow of your daily life.
I mean honestly, yes, kinda… or rather; Astral Travel is one of the subsets and possible side effects or one of the experiences you will be able to do eventually. Remote viewing, telepathy, contacting your spirit guides/dead ancestors/ soul family / extraterrestrials... astral travel, shifting into parallel versions of yourself, lucid dreaming, manifesting objects, etc… all these are possibilities within dark room, but it is kinda just the beginning.
The issue is that people on this sub and in discord will get slightly irritated about you even using these words or concepts to define these phenomena.
Rather, we use terms such as Inorganic Beings, The Double, Silent Knowledge, etc… to substitute/expand some of these.
Like.. yes, you will literally be able to exit your physical body and float around and people will call that astral travel, but here its just “entering your Double” or something.
Apparently the distinction matters a lot because words carry meaning and with it intent, which is another core concept you have to understand here. We follow a much older intent than other spiritual/New Age practices and it is an ancient technology from shamans/sorcerrers 8000+ years ago. So its a different model of reality and perception even tho admittedly there might be some overlap between things you will be able to do or perceive.
These are all very real potential side-effects many people here have experienced on the journey....
But... It is different for everyone. I cannot read thoughts. Idk if some here could. Probably, idk 🤷I can however sense the intentions behind some people’s actions or get insights into their beliefs and energy when they speak….
Seeing the future? There is no such thing as a future. Some people could sense a few possibilities, I guess. But future isnt static. It is in constant flux; you create your future with your actions thoughts and beliefs and there are many possible futures. Sometimes there is a lot of energy and momentum behind a certain outcome/manifestation and people will then make a prediction about it, and sometimes if the momentum doesnt change that thing will come true.
Regarding predicting the stock market.. It could work in theory I guess, but when you see others things this technology can do you wont care as much about money; the urge to stack up material positions naturally fades away a bit. It's a common pattern here. There is more meaning to life than “having” things.
So all this:
Yes, we understand what you mean. But please read the wiki, especially the terminology section first so you can absorb our definitions and concepts and familiarize yourself with the terms, first.
Even though I gave you an updoot, I still have to point out one important thing that remains *unclear* . According to the books and Don Juan, some things are predetermined and set. It seems that intent has its own plan and sometimes makes things happen. Don Juan explicitly referred to such cases with remarks like; “that was his fate” or “it was her destiny”.
ah yes I remember from the books donJ and CC catching some rabbits or something; carlos tried to save one, only for it to fall into another trap a few moments after 🤣
I was hoping for a more comprehensive answer, but thank you for reminding me of that rabbit episode!
🤣 🤣 🧡
I mean.... I AM in the mood to give you one, but I AM also always a bit reluctant to over-share my personal beliefs and takes on this or that which go outisde the established confines and parameters by which this castaneda's community operates.
So let me preface what I AM about to type with a NOTE that it is my own model of reality, not consistent with CC's teachings... or... not to en entire extend? I honestly do not know them well; if they were ever even clearly defined by carlos or donJ :shrug:
I do not believe time is a straight line with begginings and endings; I think of it as a branching tree of various probable.. well; probilities.
Every major decision you make in life literally (not abstractly) splits the timeline into another fractal. So you have these "parallel" selves experiencing these other realities. These people are you, but in different "futures" so to say... example... So if your parents move to a different city when you are 3, or if girlfriend dumps you at 23 or not, both possibilities exists; one where you had kids with her and one where you are single and alone now.... and your consciousness/soul shifts throught (experiences) both of them, you just remember (or are aware of) only one at a time. They converge at death as you perception of these timelines expands.
Most people think time flows from point A to B and what manifests in between is already somewhat determined. This isnt the case at all.
I think all we really have is The Eternal Now; the moment we are now in. This is where our power lies. We create both the present and the future from this one "now moment."
In this now moment, you are free to do whatever you like, and what you pick as your next "task" or "doing" will directly determine the future you shift yourself to.
Every possible configuration of all possible events already exists ( Some might call this "The Akashic Records" or something) in some non-physical plane of existance; but some of these realities then become "physical" IE; you manifest them into your life.
Now;
The thing is, though, that pre-incarnation, your consciousness/soul chooses to set up "themes of exploration" for this physical life.
So then you pick your parents, enviroments, etc; all these factors determine your early beliefs and emotional predispositions which then allows these themes to be explored by your physical self in life. The themes of exploration you've set up for yourself from the spirit/template level (non-physical) reality "must" be lived throught, so the universe/IOBs will guide you to them.
So, in short; before you are born, you design a path for yourself... and it is then loosely defined for your life; but within it, you have complete freedom to experience the HOW of it.
Imaigne it like a corridor you HAVE TO go through (the predetermined themes for your life path). But it is up to you if you will walk, crawl, jump around, run, open doors and go on side-quests, or finish it up quickly during your life(your individual choices).
So... yes I'd say some things might be determined... but most of your life is up to your choice, still.
How's that for a more comprehensive answer?? 🧡
Well, honestly I was hoping of an answer that would be more in alignment with the teachings of the lineage, even though the available info is quite scarce and extremely vague/incomplete.
Your paradigm seems to be heavily influenced by Buddhism, but I am not sure how do these two teachings work together, as they are utterly opposed when it comes to some topics.
I personally believe that the individual situation changes as the individual becomes more and more developed. If you are just a regular Joe, who is solely preoccupied with worldly, materialistic struggles, then you are cooked basically. On the other hand, if you clean the link to the intent, if you practice recapitulation and analyze yourself, then you might open some doors that were unavailable before.
yeah, I agree... idk if I ever saw them describe this in depth 🤔
Nah, no buddhism; most of this is from Bashar, the channeled extraterrestrial entity... he claims that this is "the structure of existence" and to me it makes sense. I mean... aliens would know, right?
I do not follow nor agree with (much of) buddhism.
I AM still trying to work this out myself tbh 🤣 So far I think there is a lot of synergy between the two.
Correct; as you expand your consciousness and perception, you can more easily construct your reality; which includes time. And you have more freedom of where you put your attention and energy.
Go read the books.
one needs to like reading books first.. not everyone reads books at all
maybe OP wants to know in summary before jumping into it deeper and maybe even forcing himself to read books
Well he can read the Magical Passes. That's like the summary.
You could have just told him it's about reaching altered states of consciousness, aah eeh yah.
“Reaching altered states of consciousness” is what it’s about?
Since you got it all figured out, why didn’t you just tell him instead of telling me?
This is literally fucking technology. Magic. Nothing Buddhist here. Just reality and the layers beneath it.
Honestly, do through the index/wiki. The questions you are asking are laid plain there. Then if you have additional questions, or need clarifications, come back
You'll get many replies from the members here and in all honesty it will feel overwhelming. Just read the first book from Carlos Castaneda, you can finish it in a weekend. If it clicks with you come back.
In general, it is recommended to start with book 3 (Return to Ixtlan) and this makes sense. It’s better to return to books 1 and 2 with a general understanding of what’s what.
It's about perceiving energy as it flows in the universe so that you can attain freedom. You reach that through stalking, dreaming, recapitulation, inner silence, mastering intent, and losing self importance.
Have the time of your life by focusing on your own attention and awareness. Since we’ve been conditioned to do the opposite from childhood, it takes effort to remember how to do this again. Have your own experiences and keep exploring for yourself. Don’t overthink, just do it. As a comparison, you won’t build muscles at the gym just by thinking about the exercises.
From my very own perspective this is a whole philosophy of life that transforms us for the best, in every way possible (from how we behave to what we expect from the world).
This is a complete knowledge path to understand perception and clean all the shit we accumulate through our lifetime.
Cartoons?
First a cartoon showing what we really are and how what we perceive changes when your assemblage point moves. No other system moves it further than 8 inches or so, if they don't use drugs the way Yogis often do. But even with the strongest drugs like magic mushrooms, you only move it 4 feet. Sorcerers move it 21 feet!
Is it about siddhis? Siddhis are a fraud, much like Astral Travel, which uses a meditation technique to alter the internal dialogue just a tiny bit, which produces all of the meager "enlightenment" effects.
Not something even worth pursuing as you can easily see from your friends who thought they'd achieve something with meditation, but gave up after a decade or two. Or became one of the leaders trying to make a living selling fake Hindu magic to the naive.
The "magical powers" of the siddhis are a lie, and only happen as part of closed eye dozing off visions, similar to what makes Astral Travel seem to work. We actually do the magic we describe, fully awake with our eyes open.
Instead of using a social group and donations to force people to exaggerate their closed eye pretending into "magic".
No pretending needed with this technology. This cartoon is just a short I made to show how to walk through a solid wall, into another world.
You also get to meet real visible spirits, such as this one previously associated with our member Mad Prophet, which came to visit me and teach how to leap into outer space in my physical body.
If you want to fly, you don't repeat some lame hindu word for "ether". Nor any latin verses.
Instead we look for visible red lines of energy amidst the "emanations" which are the actual source of reality, and grab them. They pull you into the sky, or allow leaping over mountain.
I don't have a video on that flying technique. I couldn't get Cholita to practice it with me, so I've never seen it working. But I did chase Cholita across the power lines outside our home one time, leaping a good 50 feet at a time.
This next video gets to the heart of what this technique is, showing alternate timelines, and how to access them by 3 methods.
There's 600 of those discovered by our "old seers", which you can switch over to if you don't like living here.
But a warning: This is REAL magic. Not the pretend kind, where the instant you can do it, supposedly you have not mastered it and can do it any time.
Our magic is more like getting a hole in one in golf, as a beginner.
Good luck repeating that...
You don't get to repeat things you experience once, again for many years. You get "demonstrations" as you learn, as gifts from infinity, but the ability to repeat any of them on demand is what you have to work hard to achieve.
But don't let that discourage you. If you work hard you get magical gifts as you actually need them, even daily, and trying to stop and learn to repeat specific ones would stop your progress towards more advanced experiences.