A new discussion has recently emerged on Discord. From what's being said, it seems some people feel the subreddit is falling apart. Some members appear to be drifting away and are talking about creating a separate space where Dan would no longer be involved.
Here are a few highlights from the discussion. You can read the full conversation on Discord.
Jadey:
«"There is an atmosphere at the reddit with which I don't feel 100% aligned so I don't go very often."»
Bilissss:
«"Why don't you feel aligned?"»
Jadey:
«"A lot of reasons. The competitiveness, the stubbornness to continue with certain narratives that I know aren't accurate, the overall path, which I don't think is aligned with Carlos' and the witches' intent."»
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Nikolina (translated from Spanish):
«"Perhaps what EVERYONE should know (look it up online because there's evidence of what I'm about to say) is that Dan was one of the people who spoke ill of the witches almost immediately after they left. He spoke badly of all his instructors and fellow practitioners. In short: he was one of the people who contributed to Carlos's 'bad reputation.' Then he came back acting like 'I'm the chosen one,' 'I'm the Savior.' He wove his own narrative, creating a web in which many became entangled."»
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Athinaj8:
«"I think you are missing the point here. He has also said that he left Discord because it has become a book club under my supervision. Because me and others are insisting on taking seriously the information in the books and seminar notes. He is systematically making up facts and saying that what the sorcerers were taught doesn't apply to us. How are we following the intent of the sorcerers of ancient Mexico like this?"»
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Nikolina (translated from Spanish):
«"Nobody told me. I was there. I know almost all the people he talks about (including Cholita).»
«And it's disgusting to read what he wrote and continues to write about them.»
«Now I ask you: under these circumstances, which former practitioners or instructors would want to come forward and collaborate on the subreddit?»
«Nobody.»
«The only one who had the courage was @Jadey. Without her, all of you would be locked in a dark room and wouldn't know how to perform a proper magical pass.»
«My home is wherever @Jadey is. Only that."»
3 Comments
Hah :D so? Maybe Dan is real at his teachings maybe he is not. Try the methods and prove/see for yourself. I never seen magic because I am to lazy and i just got a child so i just meditate for now and trying to break my ego a bit first ( I know thats my "flyer mind" doing what it does best... distract me from practicing and everything) i told u that im lazy just ao you wont think i have seen any magic.
Me for example i trust Dans experience and i believe if i would practice this i would see "magic" the infinity or whatever you call it.
The point is, it doesn't matter what other people think or say or if they want to doscredit eachother.. just follow yourself, your intuition and if you dont believe it do all the things that are written on this forum just for half a year ( from passes, recapitualtion and dark room and so on... ).
If you are serious about it my intuition says the "magic" will come. If it doesn't well you tried...
All that blabble i am talking about is just for you to see from different perspective.. it doesn't matter who is right or not. Thats just our ego or flyer mind talking nonsense 🙂
Feels very vague. Why did they not say specifically what he was saying that is wrong and what is misaligned with carlos' intent? I think most of us see how much work he puts in here towards motivating people and we appreciate it even if its harsh. His no nonsense emphasis on identifying our inclination towards pretending and attention seeking was 100% accurate for me and the only thing that got me to practice consistently.
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