If it's just a glow, probably not much. But if it indicates you've moved your energy body into an object, don Juan warned how dangerous that sort of thing could be.
Objects coming alive? Sound familiar?
There's a lot of details in the books that weren't explained much, and for good reason.
There's no need to give people more material to pretend. Let them discover anything that's available in Silent Knowledge by themselves.
Still, we went far too long with no one willing to work hard enough to stop their internal dialogue, so we've made the conscious decision that showing real magic, is better than never showing any.
Here's something "questionable" as far as showing it to beginners goes.
But in fact, your energy body might be able to take over stuff.
Maybe even make the Atlantean figures of Tula walk around the museum at night?
But there's the issue of whether someone whose flesh body has died, can still manifest as alive through their residual awareness. And whether that residual awareness is almost the same as their energy body?
The inorganic beings seem to think it's the same. Don Juan said that when they kidnap someone, they take their energy body first, and come back for the physical matter.
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don juan had lot of humor . not becasue was don juan . taking our selfs to seriously is not the best way to go for anyone .
It’s interesting when you or other senior/advanced practitioners drop SK as it relates to the books/workshops. For me the later books have gotten dynamic and CC’s words take on new definitions and intentions; that you’re pointing out.
There’s also, as I’ve been reading around the sub, a……? Different mindset and world view that wafts out of the words of practitioners. Not so hooked to society? I’ve noticed that change in a couple of other newer people whose posts i pay attention to. Hard to gleam at times, but it’s there. You stop noticing the day to day perceptual agreement, as nudges and flashes of something more exciting and disconcerting/disturbing creeps in (at least for me).
We all need to find the balance between all of our interest being focused on daily events, or all of our interest being focused on darkroom magic.
Because we don't have a lineage community.
In the lineages, I believe most of the apprentices worked in the "family business".
Which might have been varied after 800 years of passing down wealth from new lineage to new lineage.
Carlos was importing art when he also imported Cholita from Mexico.
She restores art.
But why was Carlos importing art?
Which we know, the lineage had a bunch of. One entire room at Zuleica's seemed to be dedicated to holding a bunch of it.
Cholita used to roam around in Mexico looking for old paintings in Church cellars, until doing that become a well known source of income.
Then it got harder to talk them out of the 400 year old oil paintings.
Most of which were commercial. But a hand copies commercial painting from 400 years ago, is a "work of art" today.
Not to sound flippant, but I don’t think I’d have an interest in a lineage. Too much commitment and I like my independence. This Sub works well for me and keeps me oddly very self-motivated. If I had someone else working with me, I’d get rebellious and start skipping days. We humans (or maybe it’s just me) are weird like that.
The Cholita plot keeps getting more and more interesting.
Was Cholita academically trained in art restoration? 400yr old church anything is leaning into antiquity zone, no?
Any ideas where CC’s physical possessions went? I don’t think Margaret or the son got anything, he’s still bitter; can’t blame him. He once had a license plate that read: shaman.
Yes, Cholita went to school. There's some amazing stories in that regards. Such as her getting stranded with her female friend on a small island, and having to be rescued by young, handsome construction workers.
Cholita was extremely beautiful at that age. And could manipulate men easily.
I have pictures... But she'd kill me.
Carlos insisted she chop her hair off and stop smoking or she couldn't attend sunday classes, at which point she said, her charms no longer worked. Once her hair was super short, to her surprise she lost her appeal.
No more whistles as she walked down the sidewalks along Santa Monica Blvd.
Should have gone goth if she wanted the short hair to still work for her. But I suspect Carlos would have complained. On the other hand, imagine the original chacmools as the "goth sisters".
Some women rock the short hair and get wayyyyy sexier by it. I bet ya Cholita is one? It’s not all about looks, it’s female presence. Jadey and Kylie pull it off.
the British girl skinhead look always surprised me how appealing it is and alluring. but the haircuts CC made the witches get were awful. I still struggle to look at the videos because of it. lol.
Yes women have physical appeal affected or enhanced by hair.
But, some women have that beauty juju inside and out and it’s different, it’s magnetic. They can wear their hair anyway and always look good.ya know?
Those skinhead girls with the Chelsea cuts, man they l looked mean when they put the Doc Martins to you……lol
>Any ideas where CC’s physical possessions went?
Near the Russian / Jewish area in Los Angeles.
Lots of high end art stores there.
Ahhhhh, it was all sold. Bummer
Elias' chair might have been among that stuff, although my suspicion is that Zuleica's house is still owned by remnants of the lineage.
In Vicam area Yaqui territory.
It always seemed sorta kinda suspicious and iffy that everything ended with Carlos. That the assets of the lineage didn’t move to him, which would have been a massive trail of paperwork. I’m fully hypothesizing, but a traditional branch (through the women) carried on, and a modernized western variant through Carlos for western consumption.
Seems like there’s just enough tidbits for us to ponder….until someone trustworthy maps it out via SK, but it wouldn’t matter much to him/her at that point.
I'm with you, man. I don't think these people are doing anything worthwhile.
I read Carlos Castenada's books, he talked about teleporting and visiting other dimensions physically.
That being said, I think I met a real "Man of Knowledge" once.
i talk about the threat about ban me . now as far if they for real or not I. not here to judge them im here to learn anything if I can aslo have a lough. The intent is freedom noting more nothing less and the path for each one of us is unknown and I wont be an obstacle to anyone by judge him . I can only lough with our glowing important beds so we can peeled at night backets ..
You do realize, I hope, that there's 3 private students of Carlos helping in here.
Some don't look around much before commenting.
we're just doing what Carlos told us to do,. in his final publications.
Here's one that didn't get printed except as a copy-store bound version handed out only to private class students and inner circle.
Maybe someone could buy one for a while, but not anymore.
And yet, it's the final instructions Carlos gave us.
https://archive.org/details/carlos-castaneda-silent-knowledge-cleargreen-1996
And I suppose, this hand folded flier is part of his last instructions along with the last few books that got printed commercially.
https://archive.org/details/the-warriors-way-readers-of-infinity-1996
Show us pictures.
There's 900 in this subreddit.
And most of them are over here on internet archive. Too bad I didn't use standard ZiP, or internet archive would let you page through them. Maybe they'll support RAR later on?
https://archive.org/details/allpics_26052026
But they don't allow deleting anything, so to make it viewable page by page, I'd have to upload a duplicate.
Anyway, all the pictures present in this subreddit are over here.
And if you click on "show all files", then on "view contents" for the rar file, then on each picture, you can indeed look at all of them, directly on archive dot org!
But not the back and forth comments present here in the subreddit, which are important if you want to verify people are succeeding, and there's no make believe involved.
Carlos taught us himself in person!
How could anyone expect him to fail? And certainly we aren't changing anything he taught.
FYI: You don't want to meet a "Man of Knowledge". Saying that indicates you never actually read the books, beyond the first 3.
The Men of knowledge were inept drug users who never learned to see. Don Juan only taught him about those guys, so he could have a different view of the world, and slip through the middle to "seeing".
You're confused, and most likely a waste of my time.
Except that others will read this also, and learn from it.
Plus, I'm trying to reach 3 attackers today, when combined with the lynching I got in other subreddits.
It's an experiment to see if I can get away with what I was doing last night (it's in that picture) without triggering a 3 person assault on the subreddit.
Carlos warned us about the "attack of 3s".
You don'[t yet qualify as one of those, so maybe it is indeed possible to push the boundaries, without being attacked the way we have been for the last 7 years.
Carlos never found a way to avoid the attacks.
But the internet largely didn't exist when he was alive.
So far all I'm seeing are computer-generated images and charts. I don't see any actual proof of visiting other dimensions.
Don't forget, Carlos taught that you shouldn't take anything personally.
Also, even if you google it, it says that Don Juan claimed to be a Yaqui Man of Knowledge, and a Sorcerer. I get that those are just labels, but we're splitting hairs here.
Where's your guys' actual proof?
No need to split any hairs when you can just go straight for the jugular; start doing the tensegrity.
That actually didn't work for the last 30 years, and Carlos said so himself as he was dying.
You have to go straight for stopping your internal dialogue, using Tensegrity to help that, and also lure out your energy body.
If you just do the tensegrity you'll fall into pretending. You need something to "prove" you're actually doing things correctly. And the only thing that proves that, is visible magic.
The J curve diagram shows what you can find at all assemblage point positions. Carlos gave it to us, just before he died. As a map so we don't get lost in pretending.
It's in the wiki.
I find it interesting, but I've been doing Reiki/Kundalini instead. 14 years now!
I used to be super interested in this stuff, I read the first three books, several times!
Suit yourself. No one in here cares if you learn or not. It's not a business. In fact, people who misunderstand as badly as you seem to and don't show signs of wanting to fix that, are a pain in the butt in here. And inevitably figure out they can't get any attention, so they go away.
But I do get the context now. You came from one of the other subreddits because I was over there yesterday. Maybe the "Are you Experienced" subreddit with made up stuff about people being visited by spirits that are pretty much their own delusions.
The "proof" here is in the posts, and the actual back and forth with people trying this out, and the pictures which show precisely what's in the books, but from a surprising experiential point of view. You'd have to have actually read most of the books to get that.
If you can't see it's real in here, then you're being dishonest with yourself. Unfortunately it can take a full decade to get over that blinder.
The difference between pretending and real is like a homeless alcoholic subreddit where everyone is pretending to have a job (which is likely where you came from), compared to a subreddit such as "I hate my boss", where everyone does indeed have a job and it's obvious from the posts.
If you can't read both subreddit types and tell which is made up, and which is real, you'll never be honest enough to learn sorcery.
You're likely drowning in pretending and looking for an easy way to improve your pretending with the least work.
Let's try this. If you can't see that this subreddit is real, point to one you believe is. We'll take a look! Or to any other place we can examine on the web.
But more likely is that you still haven't looked around in here much There's an amazing wiki on the side with anything you might want to know about this topic, including a list of fake sorcery books, and refutations of the attacks on Carlos over the years.
I thought you said there'd be pictures in the files you linked me. I can't find any.
Are you using a cellphone? This subreddit has a picture associated with half the posts, going back 7 years.
It's right on the left, or they show up when you click on a post.
As for archive dot org, on windows if you follow those steps, you can view those directly on that web page.
Or you can download it and use winrar (free for trial usage that never ends) and unrar it into a folder.
There's stuff like this in there. And in this subreddit. And over here on instagram (might be easier for you to view). A talented 22 year old woman and a talented 22 year old man made this instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/darkroom.practice/
Dude, I thought you meant REAL pictures.
Those are AI generated "images."
How do you not know what I meant?
It doesn't seem like you read the books, maybe you only read an AI summary...
Carlos discussed proof plenty of times with Don Juan.
Maybe you should just go elsewhere if you aren't interested in practicing?
Cholita could do it, but won't.
Won't even admit she can.
I tried to get her to explain the levitation thing, and while she remembered it, she pretended she had nothing to do with it.
Which could be true. "Fairy" moved the stuff for her.
But that's how our magic works. You push and pull on the Allies in their world, and then they move what you want them to move, by glancing at it.
Still, it looks super cool to see. And would show up in a photo.
But would surely get her kidnapped by some spy agency.
You can't take a physical picture of traveling or viewing other realities.
I suppose you could try to capture a picture of a witch flying, but I don't know anyone who practices real magic, who is thinking about trying to cash in at the risk of someone's life.
Hopefully you've been paying attention to all the crazy people lately trying to murder other people, due to social media.
So basically no one who puts in the huge amount of work to learn sorcery, would even think of doing something like you suggest.
Our 800 year old lineage has a very long history of our members being murdered over practicing magic!
That's part of why they invented "stalking" techniques.
And "proving stuff" to others is an attention seeking activity, which makes learning sorcery nearly impossible.
And ignores the fact that even if you "proved it" to millions, you wouldn't get a single new person who is willing to work hard enough to learn.
Not even 1...
Not to say, we might not eventually pick up someone willing to risk their life over making "proof" for people they don't even know, in hopes of gaining fame.
I've seen Cholita do magic you could certainly photograph with your cell phone.
But if I tried, she'd do something awful to me.
She'd consider it to be like taking pictures of her naked in the bathtub so you can show them to yhour friends.
Anyway, just go away. You aren't going to do anything but pretend for the next 10 or 20 years.
I just know that Don Juan was witnessed by Carlos walking up the side of a tree, defying gravity and the world.
I always wanted to be able to do stuff like that. I get why you're not supposed to "desire" to show it off, but at the same time, if you could easily perform that feat, what would it matter after a while? Does showing someone make it not work?
I've seen FAR FAR more than that.
Cholita floats a foot off the ground, lifts me into the air with one finger, walks through solid walls, can leap across treetops like a KungFu movie (and makes it possible for me to chase her for miles), can appear in 2 places at once, and she even split our home into 2 copies.
One magical, but while inside it everything seems fine, except the laws of physics go out the window.
I witnessed all those things fully awake!
I've also opened portals and walked through solid walls, leaped through outer space in my physical body, and traveled back in time. for months, I was visited by a spirit that taught me even more magic. A visible spirit.
So real, I got worried a time or two that maybe I had kidnapped a real person.
But it was just an "inorganic being" doing what they do. Appearing real.
NONE done in sleeping dreams. All fully awake, and completely sober.
And I really doubt anyone who works hard enough to see stuff like that, would even consider "proving it" to others.
For what? Why?
Don't be obsessed with "others".
Try it yourself, and soon you'll realize why no one would do that.
I suppose it would be like finding a valuable gold mine where you can just hike into the mountains and come back down with a full pound of gold nuggets.
And then you decide to "prove it" to other people, and even give them pictures of the mine???
No one would do that.
Obsession over getting attention from other people, is precisely why all other magical systems and religions are total frauds.
Also, you can't learn sorcery if you aren't "connected" to those who learned it in the past.
And they were 100% secretive.
If you went against that, it's possible you couldn't even learn at all.
But that's incomprehensible to someone who hasn't gotten at least to the red zone on that J curve map.
Green zone ("enlightenment") isn't far enough to understand this issue.
So, it's a lineage thing? Others are wasting their time learning it then.
You misunderstood.
Anyone can try, but you couldn't "mix and match" and learn.
You'd fail to even get started.
If you really want to learn, you actually have to work hard, follow instructions, and avoid contaminating your efforts with delusions from fake magical systems.
And even if you succeed at that, you have to closely watch what you do, to make sure you don't stray away on a side path.
Those don't lead where we need to go.
In the lineage, not everyone succeeded.
Two are trapped in the inorganic being's realm, and I have high hopes of rescuing them.
But some of us don't want anyone making that effort, saying it's too dangerous.
I pointed this cartoon to that part, of old seers stuck in the inorganic being's world.
Some even from our own line, who played around with magic too much, instead of sticking to the target (Silent Knowledge).
So I suppose that's another problem. If you get obsessed with "proving it" to others, you might have to go live with spirits when you die, because you can't manage to do anything else.
That video shows the options.
By the way, those pictures are mostly NOT AI drawn, going back so far that there weren't even any drawing AIs when most of them were created. They were hand animated and then edited using GIMP.
I thought you meant actual photographs, lol!
bro, you are what is termed an "intellectual expert". no offense, but the only way to "prove" anything that you are asking is to do it yourself, or spend your life failing, and be convinced one way or the other by the result.
He said he can do all that stuff but that he can't show me. I thought he was claiming he had photographs. The onus is on you guys, not me. I'm just being skeptical, because this post is literally about making your blanket glow purple and I thought the Feats of Power from Carlos' books were supposed to be more impressive.
I'm not really saying it's not real, just thought you guys might have more proof. I'd love to learn it one day!
I appreciate your comment about finding balance. Reminded me I haven't done recap for more than a few minutes in a while. I put on the 30 minute timer from Jadey's website about 30 minutes of daily recap. It's funny how interesting it is to do it at the time, and difficult to remember what it feels like in day-to-day. I almost feel asleep gazing iafterwards, kneeling and resting my head on a desk. When I "woke up" , the colors shimmer had a bit more texture. And then my daily consciousness snapped back in, suddenly remembered all the things I had planned for tomorrow.. about 50 minutes total. I keep running into that threshold and feeling both a shift in consciousness and a sort of bounce out to regular thinking after that long.
Maybe waking up from sleeping and noticing a new assemblage point position, is an indication the sorcery is working?
Trust me when I say, it gets better and better.
I pretty much always see stuff like this when I first get up to practice. It's helpful for getting up in the middle of the night, because most of the time I get rewarded like this.
Tired or not.
The problem then is, that lures me to put off Tensegrity in favor of gazing.
And even worse, what I get to see while gazing in that situation, can't be remembered later on.
Last night I was gazing at text forming the way Carlos wanted us to learn, for a good 20 minutes.
Never read anything useful, but it does seem to be "interactive". It's a bit like having a magical ChatGPT.
Which won't behave because if you pay too much attention, you break your link to the flow of intent.
I suppose I need a new hand gesture for having seen text...
I can't think of what it might be. But I definitely need a new one.
Write with your finger like Don Genaro suggested for Carlos to do with his notes.
Wow, that's a good one!
But I already found the one I'll use.
You can try using that one?
If I'd thought of it, I'd have used it.
Too late now. I drew and posted it.
It'll be interesting to see if I get more text tonight, or none, as a result of posting about it.
Super cool. Thanks for sharing the images.
I love to watch crazy people in cities, I think their energy body is elsewhere permanently. The physical body stays behind acting strangely, unable to function as a "normal" human, since only a link is connecting it to lifeforce, and the attention to drive it itself is elsewhere.
I've experienced this for myself, I disappeared into another realm, but when I came back round and into my body, I was in jail. I'd had a great time where I went, but when I got back, I had to deal with the repurcussions since my body back here had got intercepted by Police, and they didn't like that I wasn't behaving as ordered so took it out on my body. I learnt that your body can still fight, while you arent even in it.
Its a good reason not to go journeying while outside. Lesson learnt.